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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27093708 - 12/17/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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During a campaign speech, Biden remarked “poor kids are just as smart as white kids.”




They are both extremely racist :smirk:


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil]
    #27093712 - 12/17/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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He's acknowledging that people of color are economically disadvantaged.



Yeah it can't be how he meant to phrase it, but I'm not convinced the sentiment was malicious.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: psi] * 3
    #27093781 - 12/17/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I have no idea the context, but it sounds like he was talking about poor people of color and making a statement about their equal standing with white people, but he didn't specify the "of color" part.  In any case, there is a difference between being poor with words and, like you said, being malicious.  I doubt we'll ever see Biden mocking someone for having a muscle disease.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil]
    #27093792 - 12/17/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

This is like something out of a dream

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-55337192

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"Dutch prosecutors have found a hacker did successfully log in to Donald Trump's Twitter account by guessing his password - "MAGA2020!"

But they will not be punishing Victor Gevers, who was acting "ethically".

Mr Gevers shared what he said were screenshots of the inside of Mr Trump's account on 22 October, during the final stages of the US presidential election.

But at the time, the White House denied it had been hacked and Twitter said it had no evidence of it.

In reference to the latest development, Twitter said: "We've seen no evidence to corroborate this claim, including from the article published in the Netherlands today. We proactively implemented account security measures for a designated group of high-profile, election-related Twitter accounts in the United States, including federal branches of government."

The White House has not responded to a request for further comment."








I wonder if Trump thinks Kaitlin Bennett is his biggest fan IRL and they email each other constantly and have each other on Facebook and stuff :shrug: its unbelievable how dedicated he is to fitting the image his supporters see him represent.






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He's acknowledging that people of color are economically disadvantaged.



Yeah it can't be how he meant to phrase it, but I'm not convinced the sentiment was malicious.



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I have no idea the context, but it sounds like he was talking about poor people of color and making a statement about their equal standing with white people, but he didn't specify the "of color" part.  In any case, there is a difference between being poor with words and, like you said, being malicious.  I doubt we'll ever see Biden mocking someone for having a muscle disease.









I don't think he meant to say "if you don't vote for me you aren't black" either. But the fact that in his gaffs he lets statements like slip and the statement that poor folks are just as talented as white folks goes to show what he truly thinks of communities that are minorities. He thinks they are propped up there to help him climb higher.

:cheers: but hey we got one horrible dictator out. Now we just have another 4 years until the next one leaves. Biden could not possibly be as bad as Trump could he? Could he??


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #27093833 - 12/17/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I don't believe for a second that he is the rare person free of any racial biases. Time will tell whether he just exploited black people to become president or will deliver real results on systemic racial issues. Hopefully by ramping down down the drug war significantly for one. Maybe that's too optimistic though. Unless the Ds do well in the Georgia senate race.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: imachavel] * 2
    #27093834 - 12/17/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He challenged a fat guy to a push-up contest, after calling him fat.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27093837 - 12/17/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:lol::laugh2::lolwut::rofl2::trololol::lolsy::ilold::trollmove:

These President's are the most entertaining thing we have in our lives. And our lives are always in danger of ending shortly when one of these idiots take office as their finger is always close to the nuke button.

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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27093838 - 12/17/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

We’re really not going to litigate Biden’s racism and hostility to tough questions are we? Christ.

Go listen to the audio Ryan Grim of the Intercept received, from a call with Biden talking to civil rights leaders. When the president of the NAACP expressed concerns about cabinet appointees, Biden goes off on him like trump would a subordinate: openly hostile, tells him he has his facts wrong, and claims “I’ve done more than anyone else.”

The election is over folks, no need to keep making these half hearted defenses of the man with arguably the worst record in Democratic politics.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27093841 - 12/17/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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He challenged a fat guy to a push-up contest, after calling him fat.



I don't see that as a problem.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil]
    #27093854 - 12/17/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

By my viewing of the video the pushup challenge comes before Biden addressing him by "Look, fat".


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27093857 - 12/17/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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He challenged a fat guy to a push-up contest, after calling him fat.




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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27093895 - 12/17/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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We’re really not going to litigate Biden’s racism and hostility to tough questions are we? Christ.

Go listen to the audio Ryan Grim of the Intercept received, from a call with Biden talking to civil rights leaders. When the president of the NAACP expressed concerns about cabinet appointees, Biden goes off on him like trump would a subordinate: openly hostile, tells him he has his facts wrong, and claims “I’ve done more than anyone else.”

The election is over folks, no need to keep making these half hearted defenses of the man with arguably the worst record in Democratic politics.




No need for petty criticisms either


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: koods]
    #27094006 - 12/17/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I don’t think racism is petty.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27094018 - 12/17/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I don’t think racism is petty.



In any case?  I couldn't disagree more.  Some racism is certainly petty.  Some racism is a gross injustice.  Most of it falls somewhere between the two.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27094024 - 12/17/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Stop picking on Biden and let's go back to focusing on Trump even though he's out of the picture. We're in for 'he's still better than Trump' rationalizations for the next 4 years.


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    #27094027 - 12/17/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I worded that poorly.

It’s just worth reminding people that koods views all of this as spectacle. Biden’s racism won’t affect him just as Trump’s didn’t, but he only gets points in his social circles for acknowledging the latter, so the former might as well not even exist, it’s a nuisance.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: qman]
    #27094030 - 12/17/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Stop picking on Biden and let's go back to focusing on Trump even though he's out of the picture. We're in for 'he's still better than Trump' rationalizations for the next 4 years.





Yeah it’s a good thing there’s still a few lemmings here clinging to the Stop The Steal conspiracy, otherwise we’d be doomed to discuss the many failures of the Democratic Party since the election.

I honestly don’t even remember what was discussed here before the run up to 2016.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27094035 - 12/17/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know if biden's racist or how racist he is.  Most likely, he's somewhat racist.  I doubt there is anyone who isn't racist at all, and someone his age is very likely to be more racist than you and I would find palatable.

Still, what matters here is how his racism affects policy/public discourse.  That remains to be seen. I am of the opinion that we give him a chance.  It does appear to me that his views on race have been changed over the last couple of decades, so I'm not going to predict one way or another.  I do agree with koods that the quotes you've presented are petty examples of racism, at worst.


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    #27094044 - 12/17/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What does giving him a chance look like versus not giving him a chance?

This is how it always starts with Democratic leaders. Sure they fucked up for the last few decades, but this time it’ll be different baby. Just you and me, I promise I’ll stop drinking.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27094054 - 12/17/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He hasn't fucked up though.  He hasn't been a policymaker for a long, long time.  When he was a senator, you were a kid who hadn't even joined this site yet.  How much have you changed since then?


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