Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineKaeden123

Registered: 12/15/20
Posts: 121
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 1 year, 7 months
Panaeolus ID Oregon (Updated)
    #27092155 - 12/16/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Species #

Habitat: Growing in pasture that has been grazed by all sorts of livestock for decades, mainly cattle. Caps coming to just above the height of grass. Weather has been 40-50s and rainy. Only found one directly growing from dung, but there is plenty of manure in soil.

Gills: brownish grey and mottled getting darker with age (almost black). There are short small gills in between the long gills that are attached to stem.

Stem: Maybe 2-4 mm wide, 4-10 cm tall. Reddish brown with some lighter and some darker. No ring. Can see white mycelium at mildly bulbous base. There are somewhat translucent looking white lines running up the length of stem, most obvious close to cap and close to base. The stem is hollow.

Cap: 2-5 cm wide perhaps, dark brown when wet(picked when raining). As the caps dried they became more reddish brown with different zones being colored differently based upon moisture. Some had a small nipple, most did not.

Spore print: I believe Jet Black. There were 2 or 3 that were noticeably different, dark brown (I believe these were some pan. foes mixed in, and I believe the rest are cinctulus or olivaceous)(maybe more likely olivaceous given cooler weather and cincts like it warmer?)

Bruising:little to none. May be wishful thinking but some stems have a grayish color at base that may have a slight tint of blue.

General location: Willamette Valley Oregon

LARGER BETTER PICS POSTED A FEW POSTS DOWN



Edited by Kaeden123 (12/25/20 09:45 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRenegadeMycologist
On the case
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 3,817
Loc: Serbia Flag
Last seen: 8 days, 12 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Kaeden123]
    #27092244 - 12/16/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Non active sp. I'm afraid.
Panaeolus olivaceus probably.


--------------------
:mushroom2:  l e a r n i n g  t h i n g s :mushroom2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAllium
Registered: 03/16/20
Posts: 2,722
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27092304 - 12/16/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Panaeolus olivaceus is psychoactive :wink:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRenegadeMycologist
On the case
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 3,817
Loc: Serbia Flag
Last seen: 8 days, 12 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Allium]
    #27092347 - 12/16/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Axaxaxa really ?!
Fml I didn't know that till now, sorry OP, hope you didn't trash them.
Then I better be right in my assessment of species in question :cool:


--------------------
:mushroom2:  l e a r n i n g  t h i n g s :mushroom2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMoria841
Male


Registered: 07/02/18
Posts: 4,929
Loc: NJ Flag
Last seen: 5 hours, 13 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: RenegadeMycologist] * 2
    #27092368 - 12/16/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Could be the undescribed "lawn pans"


--------------------


Moria's Gymnopilus Guide


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAllium
Registered: 03/16/20
Posts: 2,722
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27092393 - 12/16/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'd say that there is a good chance of some psycho activity there :awesomenod:

Quote:

RenegadeMycologist said:
Axaxaxa really ?!
Fml I didn't know that till now, sorry OP, hope you didn't trash them.
Then I better be right in my assessment of species in question :cool:




:grin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus_olivaceus


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethe man
still masked
Other User Gallery


Registered: 08/12/99
Posts: 6,681
Loc: C A N A D A
Last seen: 5 hours, 47 minutes
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Allium]
    #27092751 - 12/16/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

tiny pics but couple do look bluish staining.  ya not cincts as fruit in warm weather..


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKaeden123

Registered: 12/15/20
Posts: 121
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 1 year, 7 months
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Allium]
    #27093509 - 12/17/20 04:49 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Allium said:
I'd say that there is a good chance of some psycho activity there :awesomenod:

Quote:

RenegadeMycologist said:
Axaxaxa really ?!
Fml I didn't know that till now, sorry OP, hope you didn't trash them.
Then I better be right in my assessment of species in question :cool:




:grin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus_olivaceus




Definitely didn’t trash them, they’re drying safely. Sure hope they are olivaceous!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAllium
Registered: 03/16/20
Posts: 2,722
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Kaeden123]
    #27093515 - 12/17/20 04:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Keep us posted! Post bigger photos :wink:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRenegadeMycologist
On the case
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 3,817
Loc: Serbia Flag
Last seen: 8 days, 12 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Allium]
    #27093535 - 12/17/20 05:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah post bigger ones.

And if you eat them, I'm not suggesting or recommending it really, but if you find out they're psychoactive let us know.


--------------------
:mushroom2:  l e a r n i n g  t h i n g s :mushroom2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKaeden123

Registered: 12/15/20
Posts: 121
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 1 year, 7 months
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27093542 - 12/17/20 05:32 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Allium said:
Keep us posted! Post bigger photos :wink:


Quote:

RenegadeMycologist said:
Yeah post bigger ones.

And if you eat them, I'm not suggesting or recommending it really, but if you find out they're psychoactive let us know.




Resized the pics to the largest file size I can upload. Hopefully this helps. I’m planning on eating them this weekend and I will let everybody know how it goes. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but there are no look-alike’s (With blacks spore prints growing in pasture etc.) that are poisonous, and I would just be eating a non-active pan species?



Edited by Kaeden123 (12/17/20 05:40 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKaeden123

Registered: 12/15/20
Posts: 121
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 1 year, 7 months
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Moria841]
    #27093549 - 12/17/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Moria841 said:
Could be the undescribed "lawn pans"





Hm, I can’t seem to find much on “Lawn Pans”. If you know of their psychoactivity or anything else about them let me know! Is this just a generalization for several different Panaeolus species?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRenegadeMycologist
On the case
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 3,817
Loc: Serbia Flag
Last seen: 8 days, 12 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Kaeden123]
    #27093551 - 12/17/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yes it is generalization.

Could be, as stated by TI, some less known or even unknown Panaeolus sp.

I'm pretty sure it is not P.cinctulus.

P.olivaceus is likely, but not going to advise you to eat it, due to the fact it's not determined by certainty.


--------------------
:mushroom2:  l e a r n i n g  t h i n g s :mushroom2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinelowbrow
Paddy Time!!!!
Male

Registered: 09/12/08
Posts: 9,662
Last seen: 1 day, 8 hours
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Kaeden123]
    #27093568 - 12/17/20 06:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Kaeden123 said:
Quote:

Moria841 said:
Could be the undescribed "lawn pans"





Hm, I can’t seem to find much on “Lawn Pans”. If you know of their psychoactivity or anything else about them let me know! Is this just a generalization for several different Panaeolus species?


lawn pans is a term invented to describe the gap in identification of the active specie being found in lawns and other urban settings over the years.

They were originally referred to as cinctulus but that has changed.  They could be fimicola, olivaceus, or other.

It’s probably a mix of all three.


--------------------
Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAllium
Registered: 03/16/20
Posts: 2,722
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: lowbrow]
    #27093589 - 12/17/20 06:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I''l eat em send em to me :wink: I'd bet money that those are active for sure!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnglerfishM
hearing things
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 18,643
Loc: Norvegr Flag
Last seen: 7 hours, 40 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Allium]
    #27093611 - 12/17/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

RenegadeMycologist said:
Panaeolus olivaceus probably.




Possibly. But a microscope is required to confirm that species a 100%.

Quote:

Allium said:
Panaeolus olivaceus is psychoactive :wink:




They are apparently extremely weak, and given the work required to identify them, I'd probably
leave them alone and look for something more worthwhile - that is, if tripping is the main purpose
of the hunt.


--------------------




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAllium
Registered: 03/16/20
Posts: 2,722
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Anglerfish]
    #27093636 - 12/17/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Well cinctulus are extremely weak but people hunt for and consume them as well.

I would just hoard up a big old batch and make tea, nothing to lose by doing that :shrug:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKaeden123

Registered: 12/15/20
Posts: 121
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 1 year, 7 months
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: the man]
    #27093685 - 12/17/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

the man said:
tiny pics but couple do look bluish staining.  ya not cincts as fruit in warm weather..





This all of them dried, right around 7 grams. The graying I described on base of stem seems to have become more pronounced as they’ve dried. Here’s some pics, anyone else see a tinge of blue?



PS- they smell just like good cubes now that they’re dry


Edited by Kaeden123 (12/17/20 08:35 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRenegadeMycologist
On the case
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 3,817
Loc: Serbia Flag
Last seen: 8 days, 12 hours
Trusted Identifier
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Allium]
    #27093691 - 12/17/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Kaeden be advised, you could be eating uknown species.

Definitely it's not determined to some high confidence. You heard Angler, only scope could tell it apart from the others. Think twice.

That said, I think there are no poisonous Panaeolus sp. but you could prove me wrong.


--------------------
:mushroom2:  l e a r n i n g  t h i n g s :mushroom2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAllium
Registered: 03/16/20
Posts: 2,722
Re: Panaeolus ID Oregon [Re: Kaeden123]
    #27093698 - 12/17/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Kaeden123 said:
Quote:

the man said:
tiny pics but couple do look bluish staining.  ya not cincts as fruit in warm weather..





This all of them dried, right around 7 grams. The graying I described on base of stem seems to have become more pronounced as they’ve dried. Here’s some pics, anyone else see a tinge of blue?



PS- they smell just like good cubes now that they’re dry




Those would send me to the moon!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Another Gymnopilus ID Oregon Kaeden123 183 6 01/11/21 01:12 PM
by Doc9151
* help identifing mushrooms
( 1 2 all )
codyrcollier14 7,225 24 09/28/14 09:02 AM
by ambc
* is it Panaeolus cinctulu? choomanfoo 5,406 11 05/26/13 08:20 PM
by choomanfoo
* Oregon? AshTray404 1,972 6 03/10/04 03:34 PM
by AshTray404
* New Psilocybe sequences in Genbank
( 1 2 all )
Alan RockefellerM 3,951 22 12/17/13 09:06 AM
by 2859558484
* Is there active mushrooms in Eastern Oregon? mush20 7,945 7 08/21/04 10:47 AM
by spores
* Oregon Coast ID Signo 1,819 4 06/18/04 06:21 AM
by ToxicMan
* Need ID, (pics included) jaredman 2,670 10 08/24/03 11:42 AM
by Gumby

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: ToxicMan, inski, Alan Rockefeller, Duggstar, TimmiT, Anglerfish, Tmethyl, Lucis, Doc9151, Land Trout
1,864 topic views. 0 members, 21 guests and 14 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.031 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 16 queries.