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Wood Blewit ID please
    #27091707 - 12/16/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hi all,

I'm about 90% sure I have some wood blewits here, but since I'm a beginner that 10% scares the shit out of me. Thanks in advance for everyone's help!


Habitat:
Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
Base of an oak tree, north Georgia. Lots of leaves and pine straw.

Gills:
Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.
Dominant color is white throughout; I'm not seeing a ton of lilac, except where I broke off the stem

Stem:
Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Rather thick and fibrous.

Cap:
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
3-5", somewhat sticky when freshly picked.

Spore print color:
Very important!
White with a hint of orange. Both a foil and white paper print showed the same.

Bruising:
Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
None observed.

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.

Mildly pleasant smell. I checked for webbing and ring remnants, found nothing. 3 stems converged in a shared "base," but no bulb was observed.






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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: pkulonghorn]
    #27091729 - 12/16/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Lepista "clitocybe" nuda...Wait for a TI to confirm though and enjoy them after you do...Im literally getting dressed to go hit my wood blewit honey hole my family loves them cooked into immatation steak


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091744 - 12/16/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome find!


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: Allium]
    #27091758 - 12/16/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Not Lepista Nuda.
It's Lepista panaeolus or very close sp.


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091817 - 12/16/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks HAKR, I will standby for a TI. My tree has another 2-3 clusters of juveniles that I will give a few days to grow, but I'm going to go out and double check these youngsters for webbing because I'm paranoid like that.

Renegade thanks for you input. Do you have any specific reasons for this ID? Also I can't seem to find any resources online describing lepista panaeolus. Does it have an alternate name perhaps?


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: pkulonghorn]
    #27091841 - 12/16/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

North Ga...Foliage mix of pinestraw and leaves and being near a oak is perfect habitat the print is really heavy but not that of a Cort so im still 99% sure this is Lepista Nuda


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091844 - 12/16/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

No darks spores showing on the stems either and in the third pic I see salmon spores on the stem near the thumb :shrug:

Also you have foliage sticking to the caps surface which is another sign to check for with Lepista Nuda not a postive ID sign but you see it alot with the species and not with Cortinarius


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091859 - 12/16/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Lack of lavender color on the cap is do to rain and foliage cover laying over the caps


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091916 - 12/16/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

lepista panaeolus you can find with a google search its an Autumn species though


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091925 - 12/16/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well it's still autumn.
Anyway, that habitat is shared with some other Lepista.
Stem is too thin for L.nuda. Cap is wavy, kinda clitocyb-ish, does not show any sign of violet, and not a speck of violet on the gills. Cap color could be washed away as stated by hakrelite, but gills ussually retain some lilac tint. Also stem of L.Nuda has some lilac spots on it, your mushroom is completely white overall.

I'm pretty sure this is Lepista sp., I just think it's not L.Nuda.

Does it smell like flower, it could be Lepista irina.


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091931 - 12/16/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry HAKR, I understand your reasoning perfectly, I was wondering about RenegadeMycologist's POV :smile: I will use quotes next time to be clear.

Anyhow, I just ran outside to take another look, and to confirm your reasoning even further, I found a mid-sized spec hiding under some leaves that perfectly exhibits the lilac coloring on the gills. Maybe the fat guys lost some indicators with age? Nearby (2-4 feet away) I found a similar looking species that is definitely not L. Nuda, but may provide some context.

Lilac poppin off:



Drably colored neighbor, a bit more slimy on the cap (printing in progress):



Out of curiosity, you ruled out a Cort based on the print. What should I look for in a Cort print, especially the toxic specs?

Thanks again for your awesome assistance!


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: pkulonghorn]
    #27091946 - 12/16/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This new pic does indeed show lilac coloring on the gills and give us some new insight about this case.


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: pkulonghorn]
    #27091952 - 12/16/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Corts have a darker shade closer to a orangish red...This is a Salmon color spore print which fits Wood Blewits perfectly :super:


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091971 - 12/16/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

To me its the spore print (salmon) the foliage presence on the cap and the pleasant floral smell I look for...me and my daughters hunt em every year and also have areas on our property we feed and they fruit well!!


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27091983 - 12/16/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I understand your view completely, but it's more Lepista over Cort. My point is that some of those features are shared with some other members of Lepista Genus.
Now when I've seen the lilac tint on the gills I'm leaning towards Nuda.
What does foliage means ? Little leaf parts?


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27092131 - 12/16/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yes bits of grass and leaves stick to the caps...And thanks OP for giving me the drive to check my honey hole we just had a good rain and I left 100's of smaller fruits behind to forage in a 4-5 days.

Cheers from Augusta Ga...



























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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27093633 - 12/17/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Sweet pics Hakr I wish I had some land like that nearby!

Here are the prints from the two new samples:



I can see the lilac fading on the obvious l. nuda specimen, which leads me to believe these are all safe.

I feel confident enough to cook these bad boys up now.


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: pkulonghorn]
    #27093722 - 12/17/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah. First pics were specimens faded with age. When you found younger ones with lilac tint, i was convinced these are all right.

But then again, by spore printing it you proved nothing which we already didn't know. S-print help us distinguish it from cortinarius but it was obvious it is not one. No one stated here it is a Cort. I believed it's some other Lepista sp.
S-print in this case does not help us determine exact sp. within genus.

Anyway you acted responsible and did some research before eating.
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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27093889 - 12/17/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Enjoy them OP we love them...Print and scrape those prints into a powder everytime you find them and pour the powder into a gallon jug and add water give it a good shake and go pour it around the same area and areas that look the same you can also throw any older specimens and beat up fruits and stem butts in random areas they love to be spread around :super:


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Re: Wood Blewit ID please [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27094081 - 12/17/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Breakfast sausage
Bacon
Olive oil
Lepista Nuda
Tbsp. of Dale's seasoning
Few dashes of salt





Give it a try its one of my daughters favorite meals using Lepista nuda!!


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