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lexusmike
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ID request - Hood Canal Washington 1
#27091509 - 12/16/20 02:49 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are these Psilocybe Pelliculosa?
Found near Hood Canal Washington in a conifer forest.
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27091511 - 12/16/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, looks like it. Amazing!
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27091558 - 12/16/20 04:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Probably, though I can't rule out Galerina (a non-toxic one). A closeup photo of the gills of a mature one would help and/or a spore print.
It looks like there are two species going under the name Psilocybe pelliculosa based on sequence data, I am not sure if they are possible to tell apart by photo because I only have photos of one of the phylotypes.
There's also a discrepancy in spore size, with AH Smith reporting smaller spores when he described the species than other authors. Perhaps that's a way to tell the species apart.
I can't tell right now if cyanofibrillosa is one of the two types, or a third species. More study needed, and it's something I am working on.
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27091714 - 12/16/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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All the ones pictured appear to be all Psilocybe Pelliculosa, great find Lexusmike. Make sure they all have a separable gelatinous pellicle.
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I agree with Alan, I can't tell what you have based on that picture.
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Great find, jus curious were they found in a logging area like you often hear about them growing in or a more intact old growth forest?
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
#27091807 - 12/16/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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They grow on logging roads(consisting of gravel), old clearcuts, trails, and on the forest floor. Alan if you are interested I can send prints and dried samples for you to study of the Psilocybe Pelliculosa I collect here on Vancouver Island, BC, Canada. Alan I have to agree with you that there is probably another species or two under the name Psilocybe Pelliculosa, as it's seems they will vary in size, cap shape, sometimes stem colour but still having all the key features of Pelliculosa.
Lexusmike, if you can go out and get some more photos to share I feel that would be best for us to help you.
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These were found growing near a forest owned by a logging company. It's a housing development that was cut into the forest about 5 years ago, these were found growing on the edge of the driveway.
I'll try to get more pictures and details. I was able to confirm these do have the gelatinous pellicle
Edited by lexusmike (12/16/20 11:26 AM)
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27092091 - 12/16/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you for the habitat info Lex, and sweet!
I zoomed in on the photos and from what I can see in the photo, I can confirm they all look like pellis and I don't see any imposters hiding amongst them. I'm not a TI but I'll stand by what I said.
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Great, I am interested in collections as long as we can be sure that the mushrooms in the photo are the same ones I am studying. Would be confusing if I am studying one variety and the photos are of the other one.
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Oh my lord those are breathtaking!
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27097956 - 12/19/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27097958 - 12/19/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does this help ID them as Psilocybe Pelliculosa, they have a very strong Psilocybe smell as well as a gelatinous pellicle
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27097966 - 12/19/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
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Beautiful! One awesome family!!!
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27097972 - 12/19/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
lexusmike said: Does this help ID them as Psilocybe Pelliculosa, they have a very strong Psilocybe smell as well as a gelatinous pellicle
Could be Psilocybe pelliculosa Hope it's not some weird galerina ...wait for TI
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Edited by RenegadeMycologist (12/20/20 02:12 PM)
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What a find bro!! -Ben10
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27098071 - 12/19/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuck yeah Lexus!!! Don't see any imposters in the mix either.
Cheers on the great find
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: lexusmike]
#27098092 - 12/19/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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did you get any spore prints
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Re: ID request - Hood Canal Washington [Re: MadMuncher]
#27098133 - 12/19/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spore print is in process
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