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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: skOsH] * 1
    #26974839 - 10/08/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sometimes potheads sneak in and get taken seriously because no one knows(or cares) they are potheads, cause they can handle their shit. Also, the attitude towards cannabis users is rapidly changing as the plant gains more acceptance and users.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: skOsH]
    #26974843 - 10/08/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How do you stay properly stoned all day on 4$?
Either you have a very low tolerance or you have the best plug in the world.
Even with my $450 volcano living in one of the most cannabis abundant states it was costing me way more than that.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: skOsH]
    #26974849 - 10/08/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It sounds like your job largely isolates you from interacting with the public.
One thing I think most long time cannabis users can confirm is it does make you antisocial.

Funny thing is, it seems like people who give it up tend to become a lot more charismatic.
I have witnessed this drastic change in many people over the years.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26974854 - 10/08/20 02:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Does Habitual Marijuana Use Make You Anti-Social?
"Exposure to THC led to decreased social interactions for up to 24 hours in mice, new research found."

"Studies have shown that marijuana can help patients feel less lonely and depressed, but that doesn’t equate to cannabis making you a social butterfly. In fact, a new study found the opposite — habitual marijuana use could cause users to become less sociable than others."

https://420intel.com/articles/2020/07/16/does-habitual-marijuana-use-make-you-anti-social


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle] * 2
    #26977451 - 10/09/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Based on personal experience, weed use makes me antisocial. It also makes me think I'm actually being more social.

Quitting smoking for most of a year definitely raised the number of girls I have coming by my place from "zero" to "several".


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Kryptos]
    #27081554 - 12/10/20 04:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Weed is the most addictive substance on the planet in my opinion.

The only drug I can never manage to quit is weed.

The reason weed makes everyone lazy is because it is a sedative drug.
Weed drains your energy.
So if you smoke in the morning you WILL be depleted of energy for the rest of the day.

What do you expect.
If you want to actually get shit done in life. Do it sober. Clear headed.

Then after you do your tasks/shit you need to get done.
~ Have a smoke as a self reward after you have done your tasks for the day and you deserve to relax for the rest of the day.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Kryptos]
    #27081729 - 12/10/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27082055 - 12/10/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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RogerTheRetard said:
Weed is the most addictive substance on the planet in my opinion.

The only drug I can never manage to quit is weed.

The reason weed makes everyone lazy is because it is a sedative drug.
Weed drains your energy.
So if you smoke in the morning you WILL be depleted of energy for the rest of the day.

What do you expect.
If you want to actually get shit done in life. Do it sober. Clear headed.

Then after you do your tasks/shit you need to get done.
~ Have a smoke as a self reward after you have done your tasks for the day and you deserve to relax for the rest of the day.




The most addictive substance has to be alcohol because it can quite literally kill people from not drinking it

Also, perhaps benzodiazepines (for the same reason) and then sugar...then other substances

I can do all my tasks whilst stoned. It's a mix of human interaction and paperwork, just like any other job almost.

Also yes I have quality stuff and a low tolerance--someone also brought that up. I used to smoke a ton. Now, I take a hit, notice my high, then stop. Most people take additional hits and then it skyrockets their tolerance.

Also for most of my shifts, I do use weed as reward.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #27082888 - 12/10/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Buckomcdoogle said:
It sounds like your job largely isolates you from interacting with the public.
One thing I think most long time cannabis users can confirm is it does make you antisocial.

Funny thing is, it seems like people who give it up tend to become a lot more charismatic.
I have witnessed this drastic change in many people over the years.




Or you could smoke weed AND take amphetamines and not have to quit shit


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: skOsH]
    #27082944 - 12/10/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

skOsH said:
Quote:

RogerTheRetard said:
Weed is the most addictive substance on the planet in my opinion.

The only drug I can never manage to quit is weed.

The reason weed makes everyone lazy is because it is a sedative drug.
Weed drains your energy.
So if you smoke in the morning you WILL be depleted of energy for the rest of the day.

What do you expect.
If you want to actually get shit done in life. Do it sober. Clear headed.

Then after you do your tasks/shit you need to get done.
~ Have a smoke as a self reward after you have done your tasks for the day and you deserve to relax for the rest of the day.




The most addictive substance has to be alcohol because it can quite literally kill people from not drinking it

Also, perhaps benzodiazepines (for the same reason) and then sugar...then other substances

I can do all my tasks whilst stoned. It's a mix of human interaction and paperwork, just like any other job almost.

Also yes I have quality stuff and a low tolerance--someone also brought that up. I used to smoke a ton. Now, I take a hit, notice my high, then stop. Most people take additional hits and then it skyrockets their tolerance.

Also for most of my shifts, I do use weed as reward.




Nicotine is the most addictive substance. For pretty much every drug (including alcohol), ~10% of users will develop some sort of dependency/daily use. For nicotine, that number is ~30%.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Kryptos]
    #27082961 - 12/10/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27082970 - 12/10/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Everything is bad for you. Weed is less bad for you, then, say, a brick upside the head (or even cigarettes), but to pretend that it isn't bad for you is stupid.

Of course, it's fun, and there is value in that, but there are other ways to achieve fun besides smoking weed. Some are better, and some are worse.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Kryptos]
    #27084131 - 12/11/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I mean, I smoke about 95% less than what I did 10 years ago

I used to smoke like a quarter a day. I would love to kick it entirely and just eat some shrooms occasionally

It's definitely not a terrible habit


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: skOsH]
    #27084539 - 12/11/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think one reason that potheads are rarely taken seriously is their...occasionally extreme reactions towards any sort of criticism of weed. This is best evidenced by a single phrase:

Weed is bad for you.

Now, to many people, this is a simple and not particularly important fact. To a small subset of stoners, a subset that I unfortunately belonged to for about a year or two in late high school, that's an attack on their identity. I'm not saying "weed is bad, therefore you should never smoke it". I'd be smoking right now, as I type out "weed is bad for you" repeatedly, if I didn't recently turn all my wax into space cookies. Which is why I'm eating a space cookie while typing out "weed is bad for you". I am consuming weed, even though it is bad for you. The same way that I bought a bag of chips and some beer on the way home from work today, even though I will readily admit that a bag of processed greasy potatoes is bad for you. Even though I will readily say that alcohol is probably the worst and most dangerous drug on the planet (along with nicotine, speaking of which, my vape is next to my mousepad).

Weed is bad for you. Chips are bad for you. Beer is bad for you.

I finished a weed cookie as I type this, I have a bag of chips for when the cookie kicks in, and I'm washing the cookie down with a beer. Because none of those things are a fundamental part of my identity as a person. They're just Friday night activities in the age of 'rona. I don't consider any of those statements to be attacks on my character. A small subset of stoners, on the other hands, seems to.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Kryptos]
    #27084892 - 12/12/20 12:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I kinda disagree entirely but ya kno u do you
Definitely can be addictive.  Side effects of having an addiction/ lifestyle that goes along with it are almost guaranteed to be bad.  Cannabis isnt inherently bad for you.  Especially when we are talking in the form of a space cookie.  I wouldn't put that in the same ballpark as processed chips or literally toxic solvent


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #27091009 - 12/15/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

There is so much bias in this thread it's not even funny. Everyone reacts differently to marijuana and everyone reacts differently to daily consumption of marijuana. There are lots of people who can go to work High everyday and remain productive and there are other people who can't even smoke weed without feeling like a retard. No offense to anyone who is mentally challenged. I one time worked with a girl who said she doesn't smoke weed because she doesn't like how it makes her feel stupid. In my eyes she doesn't have to smoke any weed to be stupid because she was already fucking stupid to begin with.

When I'm going to school, I actually love studying when I'm high. It makes me more focused and it takes away my stress level so I can think about the concepts more clearly. I studied trigonometry a lot when I was high. I got an A in that class. You see when I'm sober my brain goes a million miles an hour and when I'm high I can actually slow down enough to think about things more clearly. When I'm sober my thoughts are all over the fucking place.

After nearly daily smoking since 2017 I will say probably the only negative is that my memory is cloudy but at the same time my memory is also way better than most other people's memories. I'm pretty good at remembering shit that happened a long time ago shit that my friends tell me they can't remember.

I used to go to work High a lot but I stopped doing that because a few times when I have gone to work High I don't know why but I have gotten this feeling like I feel like I'm going to faint and then my vision turns into a scrambled TV station and then I see stars in my vision and I have to sit down for like an hour. then I need to explain to my boss that I feel like I'm going to faint and need to sit down. I don't even tell them that I'm high of course. This has only happened when I've gone to work completely stoned and it has never happened while sober.

Right now, because of the quarantine, I have nothing to do and everything is closed so it just gives me an excuse to be a lazy pothead. But if we weren't in a pandemic I would be going out and doing shit.

I also think it depends where you live. I'm in California and I think people here actually take marijuana smokers more seriously because if somebody can take their lives seriously and do everything they are supposed to do while still smoking weed then they must be able to handle their weed pretty good.

Nobody bats an eye when they see an extremely high functioning alcoholic.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27091102 - 12/15/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah and if you wear glasses and look like a nerd like me and you smoke weed I think people take you way more seriously than even people who don't smoke weed at all who don't look like a nerd. People will take me more seriously than they will the grungy looking pothead with long hair.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Kryptos]
    #27091127 - 12/15/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:


Weed is bad for you.
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I am barely a stoner (I only smoke for spicing it up during sex every 5 or 6 days tops), but I think this statement is plain-out WRONG.
Weed is NOT BAD for you.
IMO, the correct and intellectually honest way to make this statement is:
"Weed has both negative and positive aspects."

Negative aspects: Scientific evicende of long-lasting effects on brain chemistry (increased threshold for a neuronal action potential, for example)
Bad for lungs/throat (if smoked).
Increases hunger (can make you prone to overeating)

Positive aspects: You name it. For some people, weed is a shining, mind-expanding experience akin to classical psychedelics. Hell, I know I feel that way when having sex on weed.
For others, it can help them relax. Others have increased focus or motivation.
Others just find it fun.

How can anyone say "it's bad" and leave it at that while comparing it to literal poison (alcohol) or junk food?
You have to decide if the bad aspects outweight the positive aspects, like with pretty much everything else in life.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: jomanda1990]
    #27091155 - 12/15/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Okay. Let's take the same approach to alcohol, which you refer to as "poison".

Negative aspects: Scientific evidence of brain damage, organ damage, shortened life expectancy, dependency, increased cancer risk, etc.

Positive aspects: You name it. Social lubricant, mind expanding experience on par with psychedelics (especially when the DTs kick in), for some, it can help them relax, others have increase focus or motivation...

How can anyone ever call alcohol poison and leave it at that, especially when comparing it to something like weed or junk food?

You have to decide if the bad aspects outweigh the good aspects.

The absolute idiocy of arguing that the statement "weed is bad for you" is wrong WHILE LISTING NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF SMOKING WEED is why I can't take potheads seriously, even though I smoke weed. The fact that the positives outweigh the negatives for you does not mean the negatives don't exist.

Edit: The point is, the statement "weed is bad for you" is not a value judgement. It's a statement of fact, in the sense that scientific studies have shown that weed consumption has negative long term health effects. That's it.

Quote:

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I think one reason that potheads are rarely taken seriously is their...occasionally extreme reactions towards any sort of criticism of weed. This is best evidenced by a single phrase:

Weed is bad for you.

Now, to many people, this is a simple and not particularly important fact. To a small subset of stoners, a subset that I unfortunately belonged to for about a year or two in late high school, that's an attack on their identity.




Edit2: Within this thread, someone is saying that they have literally almost had serious medical emergencies (which fainting, or any loss of consciousness is) at work because they were high, while simultaneously saying that being high isn't that big of an issue and that apart from nearly having a medical emergency at work multiple times (you think your boss is gonna let you "sleep it off" or call an ambulance if you faint?), it's not really a problem. That, in my book, is called being fucking stupid. Of course, being so stoned you pass the fuck out isn't really a medical emergency, but the poster went out of their way to mention they never told their boss the reason. For all the boss knows, they just had a heart attack. Which is also a side effect of smoking weed.


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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Kryptos]
    #27091252 - 12/15/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Within a 10 year period of time, the whole feeling fainty and seeing stars thing only happened about 3 times out of the hundreds of times going to work stoned. The first couple times that happened I did not contribute it to weed but maybe low blood sugar but then the last time I realized what was up and then said no more being high at work. I never actually fainted and each time the episode lasted about an hour then I felt fine.


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