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Offlinelounge lizard
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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest.
    #270907 - 03/16/01 10:21 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

cakes don't neccessarily(sp?) produce less mushrooms, they just produce them over a longer period of time.

I feel cheated, where can I get the stuff that makes eggs look like brains?


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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: lounge lizard]
    #273479 - 03/17/01 09:29 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not saying you're wrong, but in my opinion, cakes do produce less.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Kast]
    #273506 - 03/17/01 09:54 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

me tinks it's all how ya make em and take care of them and the ammount you have... SIKE... of course crap and compost is better... and the yeilds from that also depend on the same factors....



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Kast]
    #273574 - 03/17/01 04:52 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

the problem is, you're asking folks who have never tried dunking their cakes and weighing the yeilds.
they have no real idea , just voicing their 'opinion' without supporting evidence.
others who have dunked report yeilds very comperable to crumbled, cased cakes, but as someone pointed out, the yield is spaced out over several flushes, each fairly small but all adding up.

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #273884 - 03/18/01 03:29 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Don't know man, I recently took 15 spent cakes... (1 good flush), still white... submerged all 15 in sterilized water in a sterilite bucket, closed the lid.. drowned em for about 20 hours... put em back in their home and watched em sit there like DEAD ass cakes, for 11 days. I have to admit I was hopeful, but confirmed what I already knew was a hoax. But I don't want to spoil it for others :)

Btw, I even considered taking pictures of the whole process first to prove this, but I didn't... BUT... if it really makes a difference to anyone.. I can do this again with pics in the future... (with only a couple of cakes though)



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #273955 - 03/18/01 06:38 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

no hoax.
just because you failed where others have suceded.
why don't you ask ralphster if it's a hoax ?
he dunked some.
or tom.
etc.
chose your words carefully, friend.
hoax is pretty strong language from a guy who failed at a pretty simple process.

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #274015 - 03/18/01 08:56 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Alright you old ass washed up fart, you got your own bb now so why dont you stay the **** off of this one :).

But since we know you will be back... because you havent a life... tell me how I failed...

FLUSH....

DUNK...

WAIT...

RETURN TO TANK...

WAIT....



11 days hippie, not one single pinhead, the only pinhead here is you.. peace



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #274514 - 03/19/01 04:15 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

well, genius, here's a thought.
what if you waited too lng to dunk ?
dunking dead cakes doesn't help.
but it doesn't prove dunking is a hoax.
lots of people have succeded where you have failed.
get someone to help you figure that out.
and don't bother telling me what to do.
i'll do as i please.

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #274518 - 03/19/01 04:30 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I tried dunking some cakes. I tried dunking them for 6 hours, 12, 24, I cased them, I sprayed them, I even sat on one and clucked like a chicken. Nothing. Nada. Dick.

I've only seen a couple of positive reports on this 'tek'.

I think it should be called the 'flush' tek. Not because it causes another flush but because that is where the cakes end up..being flushed down the toilet.

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: ]
    #274520 - 03/19/01 04:41 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

i've seen far more than a couple success stories, lots have dunked with success.
you'll figure it out someday, max, if you apply yourself.


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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #274655 - 03/19/01 10:03 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

i got 19 wet grams off a cake. i then dunked it for 26 hours in the fridge and returned it to the grow tank. Next crop was only 2 shrooms, but on was 20.1 grams wet, the other was like 3 grams.

I then dunked it yet again for about 24 hours, but its too soon to tell what its going to do.

I have no way of knowing if the dunk between 1st and 2nd flush had any effect or not, but the second crop was slightly heavier. I'm not going to draw any conclusions from this, either way.


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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: ]
    #274671 - 03/19/01 10:44 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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Thats ok cap'n max, I'm currently taking pictures of the whole process from beginning to end to SHOW what a bunch of hype it is... stay tuned.

Although i hope it DOES work, so far it hasn't... on ALL 15 cakes...

Hey hip, where are YOUR pictures? I've seen you post pics before so I know you can, why dont you put up some ACTUAL pics so we can put an end to this stupid debate, without 'hear say'... a picture is worth a thousand words.

Show us the 'in-vitro' yeilds, show us the 'Dunk miracle'

Here is the cake that will be dunked soon, after these little punys are harvested... it is 1/4 a pint cake.....




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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #274743 - 03/20/01 12:45 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

To either prove or debunk this theory, you are going to need a control group, and identical conditions for both groups. Simpy dunking one group of cakes (who's history should be well documented, btw) isn''t going to prove anything either way. Remember, you can't prove a negative. You'll need evidence that the cakes would have worked if you hadn't have dunked them, i.e. the control group.

My example is purely anecdotal, which is why I wouldn't presume to draw conclusions from it.

Do at least 3 well documented tries with a control group each time, and reproduce similar results each time, and I will believe it.

All I know is that it certainly didn't hurt my cake, so I am willing to try it again and see if a pattern emerges. Even this is pretty sketchy and unscientific, I admit.

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: wingnutx]
    #274916 - 03/20/01 05:26 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I agree, wignutx.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #275062 - 03/20/01 10:02 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Hey hip, sorry for the negativity, I tried to delete the 'ol' fart' post but it wouldn't let me....
That being said, I will still do the 'DUNK TEK PICTORAL' for all to see what happens, maybe it works, maybe not... lets find out... I honestly hope it does, but so far it hasn't, and I don't think its because I "FAILED". Should I open a new thread for this, or continue in this one?
Any input or recommendations on this?
Wingnutz - noted




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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #275074 - 03/20/01 10:32 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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Ok, here is that same cake again, a day later.....
Not bad for half of a half pint eh....
Tommorrow this will be dunked....
All due respect to PF for the excellent, simple method of the cake, a great way to cultivate for newbies and experts alike.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #275139 - 03/20/01 03:26 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

dude,
dunking works.
no hoax.
i'm not the only one reporting success.
and if you want to see some pics, come to my site below.
there's some 4th flush dunked cake pics in a thread called 'invitro pics'


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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #275262 - 03/20/01 08:29 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

it does work. And produces bigger shrooms than I had on my first flush - possibly because the cakes were a little dru the first time. The 3 rd flush was a lot smaller though, and then after that only 2" shrooms or shorter and abhorts...




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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: longbong]
    #275271 - 03/20/01 08:49 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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Good, I really hope so....

Here is our little freind today taking a dunk bath....



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #276247 - 03/22/01 04:59 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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HEY NOW!

Cake has been dunked 24 hours.... here it is returned to the terrarium..... I must admit it is alot heavier today after the bath then it was yesterday.....
Will post pics every two days unless pins form, lets see what happens. :P



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #276480 - 03/22/01 03:38 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

glad to see someone at least going thru the motions of a fair trial.
but 1 cake is a pretty small test.
if it dies, etc. it would be premature to judge the tek a failure.
i've now dunked over a hundred cakes,
almost half in water, the rest in skim milk.
and i know it works beyond any shadow of a doubt.
i wish you success in your experiment,
and look forward to hearing your results in a few days.

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #276548 - 03/22/01 06:35 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

i have to say the dunk tek has worked well for me.

i don't agree with how hippie and his 'cohorts' conduct themselves but i have to admit that the tek seems viable. i think 4 dried grams per cake, and possibly more, is pretty nice for not ever having to construct a terrarium or deal with perlite or humidity gauges.

i can say that i have tried it all, everything, from casing cakes to cakes to straw, to jafftek, to shroomgod's tek, to using a humidifier, to using perlite, to using rye, to using birdseed, to building a glovebox, to using agar, to lining my work area with plastic, to running a HEPA 24/7, and NOTHING has come close to bringing success except making PF cakes.





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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: BBShrizz]
    #277175 - 03/23/01 12:39 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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*test/bump*



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #277176 - 03/23/01 12:43 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

*test,test*




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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #277453 - 03/24/01 12:38 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Damn Pavlov, in that picture you really do look like a dog :)

Or is THAT what fruited from your dunked cake? What strain is that?


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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Kast]
    #277470 - 03/24/01 01:00 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Hang in there kast, i'm gonna go snap a photo right now....
but it ain't doin much... :)
shoot, right when I was about to take the picture, my damn batteries died.... oh well, will charge em and post it tonight...
but like I said, there is nothing to see but a dorment cake.
it is starting to mold too.....
I think i'll try this again in a new thread soon, with more cakes... later



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Anonymous

Re: Difference between cakes and harvest.
    #277513 - 03/24/01 01:46 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, that is a beautiful cake, i've never actually had mushrooms grow off the top of my cakes. Always from the bottom where the perlite is.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #277516 - 03/24/01 01:52 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

When I first birth them, I put a wet layer of verm on top. It seems to work pretty well.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest.
    #277638 - 03/24/01 06:05 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

pretty.
no doubt at all that dunking works.
whether you approve of hippie or not.
heh.

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #277694 - 03/24/01 09:04 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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Hey now, here is the latest dunked cake pic.... 3 days later, yippee

hip, i'm a reasonable guy, tell me what i've done wrong..
without being an arrogent ass.

don't misunderstand me please, I havent drawn any conclusions from this. I will again try this in a new thread later with more/better pics, and more cakes...

still don't beleive it though :)




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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #277839 - 03/24/01 05:39 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

lol
kinda hard to do without being an arogant ass, isn't it ?
i'm afraid that i really have no idea why you are failing.
too many possible factors unknown to hazard a guess.
but there are dozens of success stories, from Relic of ADM to Ralphster here, etc. people are even dunking cased grain with success, there's some great pics on our site of this.
my suggestion would be to try it on a fresh cake thats just beginning to pin, dunk it 12 hours in water then watch.
what strain are you using anyway ?


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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #277842 - 03/24/01 05:50 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I have always had great success with dunking. no complaints here hip.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Taz]
    #277848 - 03/24/01 06:07 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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ive had great success with just doing a simple double ended casing..it does the same thing..rehydrates your cake..you can mist the vermiculite after each flush and it gives the cake plenty of water to begin a new one..here is a fuzzy picture of some treasure coast.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: My Third Eye]
    #278144 - 03/25/01 04:25 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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HOLY COW! LOOK AT THOSE PINS!

wow



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: emetheus]
    #278168 - 03/25/01 05:32 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: ralphster44]
    #278187 - 03/25/01 06:27 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

me and tom got 28.4 g dry off of 4 cakes that we dunked. this shit works. i don't know what you are doing wrong, its worked great for us.

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    #278197 - 03/25/01 06:41 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)
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This one goes out to cap'n max.

latest cake pic...



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #278200 - 03/25/01 06:55 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

oh that's good pav.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Tec-9]
    #278214 - 03/25/01 07:21 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

28.4 dry grams off of 4 cakes? In how many flushes? That seems a bit much.. I'm not accusing you of lying, but that's phenomenal; Do you have any pictures?



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Kast]
    #278217 - 03/25/01 07:27 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

hey pav. umm.... ... is that where you dunked your cakes?!?!?!??! lol



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Kast]
    #278406 - 03/25/01 03:06 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

that's 7.1 grams per cake, not too much more than i got on my first trial run with dunking.
that's why all the fuss,
it doubles pf cake yields.

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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: Anonymous]
    #278422 - 03/25/01 03:48 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Thats it Pav, the Flush tek, you beat me to it!

Its amazing how many flushes each cake might experience but if you break them up it works better.

Newbies shuold beware however, too many will result in 'clogging'.



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Re: Difference between cakes and harvest. [Re: TheTruth]
    #278428 - 03/25/01 04:06 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Damn, I wanted to post that pic too!

I find dunking to be kinda like the invitro tek, just to undependable, unreliable and unworthy.

But thats ok, Rome wasn't built in a day and the evolution of cultivation psilocybe cultivation is still in its infacy. I encourage all to continue their experiments into new methods.



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