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    #27089444 - 12/14/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

As I understand it a bad check is simply a broken promise.  You did not do what you said you would.

Now I have written a fair share of bad checks.  What is this “bad check” made out of.  More specifically that is.  To make a claim about a future endeavor and to not follow through.  So it is to tell a lie.  Yet I do not think this is all that it is.  Following the metaphor it is to state something where you do not possess the required funds to satisfy.  So it is like a self deception and not a lie.  A lie is conscious you do not speak the truth.  A bad check is illusory, it turns out to be, where you think you are telling the truth.  So there is a difference imo between a bad check and a lie.


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Re: bad checks [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #27089604 - 12/14/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Writing a bad check is not necessarily a lie but it is a breach of contract/broken promise as you say. "I don't care what happened, I just want my money".


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Re: bad checks [Re: Rahz]
    #27090151 - 12/15/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

So a contract is based in time where the truth is not known initially.  So I do not see how the contract can be understood as a confirmation if the truth is not known.  It is like an exercise in deliberation at all costs.  The natural flow of reality must be sacrificed for the contract.


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Re: bad checks [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #27090175 - 12/15/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Well, not at all costs unless you agree to a contract with the wrong kind of person. But there are consequences and decision making based on past behavior because the truth is not known.


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Re: bad checks [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #27090779 - 12/15/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Now I have written a fair share of bad checks.  ...




.  And now you want to play games defining what you did? To what end? Do you plan to continue to do so?  Or to get tips on how to get away with writing them for even larger amounts?
.  Some might wonder given your "handle or avatar" if perhaps its about: Wanting others to say they do it too, to relieve guilt? ... or maybe its your unconscious telling you its time to change into some dry pants?


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Re: bad checks [Re: laughingdog]
    #27090854 - 12/15/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think I was drunk when I created Yellow Pants (seriously).  But I’d like to see if there is a positive spin in writing a bad check.  A way to defend against the social authority that would consider me “a bad player”

Any ideas?


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Re: bad checks [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #27091174 - 12/15/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The positive spin is you get what you want in the short term.

As regards the long term, who knows...

1) there are certainly very bad potential physical consequences

2) and potentially bad moral consequences if one has kids, or family

3) and potentially bad psychological consequences as to the type of character one becomes, and type of people one attracts into one's life, sort of thing ...

.  Probably for these sorts of reasons, this sort of behavior is generally avoided, and other ways found to profit from one's intelligence, by those who consider the matter carefully.


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Re: bad checks [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #27091347 - 12/15/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think the question one must ask, if one is to approach it from that angle is 'who suffers if you write that bad check, and how?'.


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Re: bad checks [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27093585 - 12/17/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What if you write a check and you give the food to a struggling family.


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Re: bad checks [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27093676 - 12/17/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I think the question one must ask, if one is to approach it from that angle is 'who suffers if you write that bad check, and how?'.




Well if two people with good intentions agree to terms then they both suffer if they are not satisfied.  I personally think it is worse for the party whose check came back invalid.  They are guilty and even tho the other might lose out on x or y it is not on their conscious.  The other person may lose something significant but this means that the guilt for the bad player is even more.

My question is whether guilt can be justified in some way.  Aside from a legit excuse that unexpectedly comes up where both people can be understanding, is there another way?


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Re: bad checks [Re: CoffeeChocolateIce]
    #27094238 - 12/17/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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What if you write a check and you give the food to a struggling family.



I like the link to guitar you have going there.
sure help people and families but don't rob peter to pay paul.


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