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Ziran
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: mushhead]
#27076427 - 12/07/20 01:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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mushhead said: I'd like to point out Mateah's cakes are cased in coir. Verm casings are iffy.
idk about that. verm is fine.
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Shroombitz
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: Ziran]
#27076470 - 12/07/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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mushhead said: I'd like to point out Mateah's cakes are cased in coir. Verm casings are iffy.
idk about that. verm is fine.
To add to that: Both are not very nutritious (afaik verm has more nutrition than coir for cubes), have a good water binding capacity and stickiness, three of the main features needed
So there are probably many substitutes out there, coir and verm are just very easily obtain- and store-able
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27079094 - 12/08/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here’s an update. The verm cased cakes are the ones in resurrection mode. They were in a regular tub with no fae for two days, then a water tub for another 2. I also birthed the slower consolidating cakes in coir yesterday, so we’ll see how they do alongside the first set. Just today, I noticed the verm cased cakes are starting to pin. I don’t really see the myc grabbing hold except in a couple areas, but I’m stoked to see some pins.
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Shroombitz
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: jpchatx]
#27079960 - 12/09/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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jpchatx said: Here’s an update. The verm cased cakes are the ones in resurrection mode. They were in a regular tub with no fae for two days, then a water tub for another 2. I also birthed the slower consolidating cakes in coir yesterday, so we’ll see how they do alongside the first set. Just today, I noticed the verm cased cakes are starting to pin. I don’t really see the myc grabbing hold except in a couple areas, but I’m stoked to see some pins.

Good to see that your cakes are getting somewhere 
My bread (at least it looks like one) also got some tiny spots of mycelium and actually started pinning too.
I have opened my otherwise closed tub a couple a times for pics and inspection, maybe that was lowering the CO2 levels too much and provoked pinning vs more growth of the mycelium, so I'm trying to not open it, which is sooo hard because I can barely see anything and I'm curious to see whats going to 
Anyways I'm happy for having my cake back to signs of live rather than death, thanks to @Mateah
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Edited by Shroombitz (12/09/20 09:19 AM)
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27080867 - 12/09/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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My bread (at least it looks like one) also got some tiny spots of mycelium and actually started pinning too.
Awesome!
Now that you mention it though, I think I’ve been taking the lid off too much to anxiously observe progress. @Mateah what would you say is a good cadence of unlidding for a mist? I unfortunately can’t really see if there’s “dew” without getting up close.
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Shroombitz
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: jpchatx]
#27081391 - 12/10/20 12:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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jpchatx said:
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My bread (at least it looks like one) also got some tiny spots of mycelium and actually started pinning too.
Awesome!
Now that you mention it though, I think I’ve been taking the lid off too much to anxiously observe progress. @Mateah what would you say is a good cadence of unlidding for a mist? I unfortunately can’t really see if there’s “dew” without getting up close.
As long as your tub is closed there shouldn't be any need to mist for days or weeks. As soon as you start to give it more FAE by opening the lid or put it upside down, what I have read in the tek threads of Humidity Chamber (HC) and Water Tub (WT) or whatever ^^, you only mist every couple of days to replace the lost surface humidity (beads on the surface got smaller)
The more you give it FAE the more likely you will have to mist according to proper surface conditions
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: jpchatx]
#27083421 - 12/11/20 04:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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jpchatx said:
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My bread (at least it looks like one) also got some tiny spots of mycelium and actually started pinning too.
Awesome!
Now that you mention it though, I think I’ve been taking the lid off too much to anxiously observe progress. @Mateah what would you say is a good cadence of unlidding for a mist? I unfortunately can’t really see if there’s “dew” without getting up close.
I just lift the lid and stick my head inside to get a closer look at the surface conditions. Opening the lid once or twice a day won't mean anything in terms of evaporation since FAE will be shut off during 99.99% of the time anyway so
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: Mateja]
#27088695 - 12/14/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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My resurrected cakes are going pretty well, though there are very few pins. Shrooms look good size though I think, though they’re growing out sideways. One cake has no pins at all.
My three coir cakes seem ok... I think I finally figured out how to get good surface conditions. I’ve had dew on them since birthing, about a week ago. Still not seeing pins on them but I think I’m on the right track? That water tub Tek is awesome. I had to go out of town for two days and came back to happy cakes.
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: jpchatx]
#27088698 - 12/14/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not sure why my photos didn’t post, but here’s proof:
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Shroombitz
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: jpchatx]
#27089102 - 12/14/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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jpchatx said: Not sure why my photos didn’t post, but here’s proof:

Gratz, that's looking much healthier than before 
I got a small flush out of my cake, not too bad for a cake I almost tossed and doing nothing but sit and watch unlike the permanent misting duty with the SGFC
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Edited by Shroombitz (12/15/20 12:24 AM)
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Re: Screwed up rolling, first grow—are these healthy? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27089216 - 12/14/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks! Glad you got something out of yours too. I wonder if a second flush will be any better with these resurrected cakes.
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