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NPoB
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An odd find 1
#27088401 - 12/14/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do not know if I should post this here as it involves what sure looks like a cultivated mushroom but this is growing entirely under its own power.
I started out growing shiitakes on logs in 2006 and moved to sawdust a few years later but still keep a small number around (a couple of hundred or so). I know logs are not sound for commercial production but I like having them around. Last year a large log that I did not plug (actually a fallen tanoak that was bucked into sections for safety reasons) fruited with what looked a lot like shiitakes. I assumed it was something else I had not seen before that looked like a shiitake. a photo was taken in December 2019 and then it fruited again in April of this year. It happened again just recently this December so I am posting pictures. Spore print was white, spores seem to be the right shapes and size and they don't react with Lugol's, the smell is right, my sensation of an allergic reaction to smelling them is right, but the aroma is not as strong as in what I grow. I put some clones on agar to see how the mycelium looks when growing and if it looks and smells right will do a test of it on some bags and make enough sawdust spawn for a couple of logs. It is hard for me to believe that my operation escaped (otherwise I would think that the forest here would be full of these) but I have heard of it occurring before in Wisconsin. I'm in Mendocino County. Is it sound to think this is actually a shiitake? if not, ID help would be appreciated. That said, after running the images by a few friends, getting a spore print and looking at them, I cooked some up. Taste, aroma and texture were all quite typical. After first tasting a bite, I ate a small amount of these last night and do believe them to be shiitakes.
This was on Dec. 17, 2019
This was on Dec. 10, 2020

Picked before rain:


After heavy rain overnight:

The log in question:
Its surroundings (arrow marking the spot):
And a rather crappy image of the spores. Increments are 0.498 microns,
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Sk8nshram
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Re: An odd find [Re: NPoB]
#27088420 - 12/14/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like Lentinula edodes to me.
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RenegadeMycologist
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Maybe you are eating someone's lunch, maybe it's planted by somebody else.
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Re: An odd find [Re: NPoB]
#27088543 - 12/14/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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NPoB said:
It is hard for me to believe that my operation escaped
Good chance that it's an escaped cultivar, I believe.
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otherwise I would think that the forest here would be full of these
Well, possibly, but then again the wild conditions are possibly not ideal for them growing fully from germination to fruits - these didn't get your assistance.
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but I have heard of it occurring before in Wisconsin.
Maybe your projects have travelled around a bit?
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Doc9151
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I agree with Lentinus edodes, your cultivars are finding new homes!!!
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Re: An odd find [Re: Doc9151]
#27088993 - 12/14/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is freaking awesome!
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Re: An odd find [Re: Allium]
#27089056 - 12/14/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had a shiitake sawdust “log” fruiting in my kitchen and I walked in one day with the light coming through the window just right and I could see a river of spores floating through the air into the living room. They’re heavy spore producers and spores can flow through the air for miles, maybe even thousands of miles if they get caught in a good weather system.
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NPoB
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Thanks for adding more to what I suspect. These things do pump out a massive amount of spores; especially considering the total in between the log ricks and the larger volume that comes out of the fruiting facility's exhaust.
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NPoB
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Re: An odd find [Re: NPoB]
#27507862 - 10/17/21 11:54 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry for bumping an older post of mine but it seemed nice to be able to bring this story up to date with a happy outcome. I have no question about their ID. Five clones from these have done great and have been tested on small numbers of spawn bags and some logs. I am already sending mushrooms to the local farmers market so plan to increase the numbers. I am stoked to be growing something that is locally adapted.
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