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mushhead
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Re: Throw your jars away! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27107532 - 12/25/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I went cheap and got the Henky Vacuum 8'' 200mm Impulse sealer. For $22 it gets the job done, but I am getting a better device soon.
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Re: Throw your jars away! [Re: mushhead]
#27107700 - 12/25/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is there anything different I should do when using G2G or agar wedges to inoculate these sealed, sterilized plastic bags of hydrated grain? I have a SAB, but no flowhood.
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The only difference I would do between using agar wedges or g2g is how I disperse the mycelium. G2g, just shake it. For agar, follow the first post in this thread
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mushhead
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for agar I just drop the wedge into the jar. Leave it be, don't shake it up or anything, the myc does the work. I use the ENTIRE agar plate for this because it gives a bigger surface area for the myc to colonize. Though it is common practice to drop small wedges onto grain, some would say that using the entire plate is a waste, but ime it speeds up colonization.
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Shakedown Street said: Is there anything different I should do when using G2G or agar wedges to inoculate these sealed, sterilized plastic bags of hydrated grain? I have a SAB, but no flowhood.
I think most folks use LC in your situation. SAB don't really mix with open bags.
I myself use LI. One agar plate to fill a huge 100cc syringe. I use 25cc for each 4 quart bag of wheat.
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Re: Throw your jars away! [Re: tedoro]
#27107850 - 12/25/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's the one I have. Love it.
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RenegadeMycologist
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Should I throw this. Smell like alcohol
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If you were hoping for cube myc, you failed. If you are trying to grow some other thing, i haven't the foggiest. No harm leaving it laying around and watching it though. Is it warm to the touch?
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verum subsequentis said: If you were hoping for cube myc, you failed. If you are trying to grow some other thing, i haven't the foggiest. No harm leaving it laying around and watching it though. Is it warm to the touch?
Yes it is warm. Smells sourly on alcohol. It was injected with possible cubensis spores. I thought some of this white shit is mycelium. But what is it then? Is it bacterial or fungal lifeform ?
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No one here will be able to tell you exactly what it is without seeing it in person or without looking at it under a microscope, but we can tell you that is definitely not cubensis mycelium.
Try again and next time don’t spray spores onto grains. Either stick to PF tek or learn agar
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Can't get Straw bags to work
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Warm spawn and a smell of alcohol often points to yeast.
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Re: Throw your jars away! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27109101 - 12/26/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, ive had some bags that smelled like theyd get you drunk as a skunk
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Re: Throw your jars away! [Re: TedsDead]
#27109133 - 12/26/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You gonna smash it up real good?
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filthyknees
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Yeah I mashed it around. Did like ten like this. Maybe into six or ten pieces, didn't spend forever breaking it up.
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Man, I hate to argue with you fellas but I’ve dried myc out next to bone dry and shook the hell out of it in water (GLC) until it was the tiniest of the tiniest brittle bitty particles of myc and it’s always grown back.. the only time it hasn’t is when it’s bacterial.. I’ve never had cube myc die because I broke it up too much 
I just GLC’d this RW culture that was dry AF

I left some water in the jar afterwards and the grain sucked up and myc started growing back the next day

I mean, I believe it’s happened to you as you say but wth are you guys doing to it?
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Quote:
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I mashed mine up real good and haven’t noticed a problem yet. I’ve expanded most of these original bags 10 fold!
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Re: Throw your jars away! [Re: fahtster]
#27109827 - 12/26/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try pouring LC into a bag or jar and then shaking vigorously. I'm fine with arguments. When the truth is the goal, arguments are a blessing.
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But that’s what I’m saying... I do shake the shit out of the glc jars to knock the myc off the grain kernels. It’s just not computing in my brain as to why the myc would die from that. If myc doesn’t die from being dried out for 6+ months, how does it die from shaking your grain jars around? I don’t think we’re gonna get anywhere from here.. Just doesn’t add up to me. Do you have a theory? Like I said, I believe it happened to you. It’s just weird. 
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