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Crazy_Horse
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#27101098 - 12/21/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#27101107 - 12/21/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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My mom was a sheep and my dad was a people
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: koods]
#27101288 - 12/21/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn like tumbus from witch and wardrobe unbelievable
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: longbus] 3
#27101719 - 12/21/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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longbus said: Yeah but if u have ur cuckcciene then u will be fine right?
No, that is not how it works. For the vaccine to be effective, everybody that can get a vaccine needs to get the vaccine because the vaccine only works for about 90% of people, not everybody can get vaccines, and dumb people don't get vaccines so if there are enough people who don't get vaccinated then the virus can keep spreading. It can spread to the people who want the vaccine, but couldn't take it and it can spread to the people for whom the vaccine was ineffective, and it can also spread to young babies and infants who couldn't get their shots yet.
You not getting a vaccine effects all of society so don't be selfish. Do your part to be a contributing member of the society that you take so much from. Be decent, get your shots, and care about your fellow humans because they wear their mask and risk the side effects of getting vaccinated so YOU can be safe. Return the favor or move out to the dessert away from the people who care.
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Lophosaurus]
#27102146 - 12/22/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The same of group sheep on here that support disarming society to make it safer. The vaccine is in it's infancy stage. Has unknown genetic side effects. is being portrayed or talked about as 100 percent complete, trustable, and the right thing to do. There is time and science behind a flu vaccine, this is something man made for something that was man made. I know alot of people that had covid and didnt get much more than a runny nose, this is all subjective material. And you shroomery scientists get on here and speak the TRUTH of God because you take psychadelics and have an all encompassing judgement and awareness for something that did not exist 10 months ago. If you are an at risk person, maybe the vaccine is something that makes sense. For alot of people it doesn't.
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Grungeman17] 3
#27102185 - 12/22/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: The same of group sheep on here that support disarming society to make it safer. The vaccine is in it's infancy stage. Has unknown genetic side effects. is being portrayed or talked about as 100 percent complete, trustable, and the right thing to do. There is time and science behind a flu vaccine, this is something man made for something that was man made. I know alot of people that had covid and didnt get much more than a runny nose, this is all subjective material. And you shroomery scientists get on here and speak the TRUTH of God because you take psychadelics and have an all encompassing judgement and awareness for something that did not exist 10 months ago. If you are an at risk person, maybe the vaccine is something that makes sense. For alot of people it doesn't.
Your post consists of a random politics/gun-based generalization, strawman argument, misunderstanding what a flu vaccine is, touting a conspiracy theory about the virus being man-made, complete disregard for previous posts explaining how we look at it from a risk assessment perspective, you pretended covid is somehow subjective and the real toll is not something many of us have actually seen, you insulted members here for thinking differently from you, many who do have science backgrounds and/or work in healthcare, and then you ended with hypocrisy by becoming the very “shroomery scientist” you ranted about and telling people what to do and what makes sense for them.
That was a fun ride
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morrowasted
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Grungeman17]
#27102188 - 12/22/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: The same of group sheep on here that support disarming society to make it safer. The vaccine is in it's infancy stage. Has unknown genetic side effects. is being portrayed or talked about as 100 percent complete, trustable, and the right thing to do. There is time and science behind a flu vaccine, this is something man made for something that was man made. I know alot of people that had covid and didnt get much more than a runny nose, this is all subjective material. And you shroomery scientists get on here and speak the TRUTH of God because you take psychadelics and have an all encompassing judgement and awareness for something that did not exist 10 months ago. If you are an at risk person, maybe the vaccine is something that makes sense. For alot of people it doesn't.
You dont know whether not you are at risk
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: morrowasted]
#27102218 - 12/22/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Many of you act like there is noyhing left to proove in fact 100 percent and iresponsible for not conforming to a newly made medcine that has unprooven risks and effectiveness across all strains and individuals. You are hinging everything on a vaccine and it being the be all and end all in preventing the disease. And we're seeing something new every single day. New strain ect. Its the die hard no queations asked 100 percenters im calling out, for you absolutely do not have 100 percent of the information. Nobody has the truth on covid, I donnot care what you profession is...you not part of the small circle of truth who are around this virus and know it exactly on a gentic basis from cell to cure. Those are the only people who can speak 100 percent. To shame any person or exclude their personality as worthy of life because they chose to wait and see for themselves what it is safe. How would you feel if the vaccine turns out with a 80 percent infertility rate? What would the risks be then vs. Corona. If a side effect, effecting reproduction on significant level to any magnitude? How would that compare. This vaccine is in it's infancy, if you chose to be part of it's infancy trial then that is the perogitive of ypu personality, but i dont believe this shit holds the same weight as the flu vaccine arguement, not even close.
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Grungeman17] 4
#27102258 - 12/22/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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In terms of fertility it’s a pretty simple risk assessment for me
A random conspiracy theory https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/14/fact-check-no-evidence-covid-19-vaccine-causes-infertility-women/3884328001/
Versus
Male Fertility and the COVID-19 Pandemic: Systematic Review of the Literature https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32814369/ “The recent literature provides evidence that male gonads may be potentially vulnerable to SARS-CoV-2 infection, recommending caution to pregnant women and couples planning natural pregnancy or assisted reproduction.”
Impaired spermatogenesis in COVID-19 patients https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30348-5/fulltext
SARS-CoV-2 and Male Infertility: Possible Multifaceted Pathology https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43032-020-00261-z
“COVID-19 infection in pregnancy leads to increased risk in pregnancy complications such as preterm birth, PPROM, and may possibly lead to maternal death in rare cases.” https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/509290
“Patients who are pregnant and contract COVID are five times more likely to end up in the intensive care unit (ICU) or on a ventilator than those who are not pregnant” https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6925a1.htm
“ COVID-19 survivors might develop sexual and reproductive health issues. Andrological assessment and tailored treatments should be considered in the follow-up.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7355084/
Just a few studies
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: feevers]
#27102274 - 12/22/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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And yes, the vaccine could cause infertility. It could also make your dick bigger and make your hands glow in the dark. Everything we do in life can have unknown effects. We don’t know that the floor beneath us will hold up for another day, but we trust it because of the science, knowledge, expertise, and systems put in place to give us a fair degree of confidence we’ll be safe. The virus itself already has hundreds or even thousands of known negative long-term consequences, and many more will be discovered with time
I was very skeptical of the vaccine in the beginning, as I spent more time understanding the science behind it and how the research was conducted I’m no longer really concerned and instead am happy to see an end in sight. I still understand why people don’t want to get it, but I think that for most people those reasons are based off of emotion and a lack of understanding as opposed to a rational decision based on their safety, the safety of those around them, and the toll that will continue be taken on our economy and society if we don’t get this under control.
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morrowasted
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: feevers] 3
#27102325 - 12/22/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The statement "this vaccine is in its infancy" is scientifically meaningless. It went through the same development process as any other vaccine would. Tech has just gotten a lot better since the last time we needed one this urgently.
The whole, you guys are so arrogant and full of hubris for shaming us act is a bunch of BS self victimization. Telling you that you are wrong isnt shaming you. Like i said, idgaf if you get vaccinated. I am getting mine tomorrow. I will be safer from covid than you will be. If you think thats no big deal, hey, by all means... at the beginning I was more patient with the anti establishment crowd, trying to carefully break down why they were wrong this time, because it wasnt as obvious to the whole country that this was something to take seriously back in April. By now there is no excuse, just make your choice.
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: morrowasted]
#27102367 - 12/22/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: The statement "this vaccine is in its infancy" is scientifically meaningless. It went through the same development process as any other vaccine would. Tech has just gotten a lot better since the last time we needed one this urgently.
And just the fact that the virus is something that's so contagious and prevalent/widespread right now. The efficacy data came back extremely quick because so many participants were exposed in just weeks/months, as opposed to the years it would take for a rarer virus, that would likely also have a smaller number of participants due to the obvious funding/urgency differences.
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schmutzen
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: feevers]
#27102620 - 12/22/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll be getting the Pfizer vaccine soon.
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: schmutzen] 1
#27102702 - 12/22/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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With more than 200,000 new daily cases and more than 3000 deaths every day, making it the leading cause of death in the US, outstripping both heart disease and cancer, I'm surprised that people would be so complacent about not taking the vaccine, especially when their data is based upon misleading Facebook posts. With those sort of transmission and mortality rates it won't be too long before every person in the US is touched by it personally, that should swing the fear of the known higher than the fear of the unknown, maybe make them rethink how they feel about risk aversion.
The Pfizer trial, although conducted relatively quickly, was actually massive. More than 40,000 people received the jab and in phase 3 there were no injuries at all. The only adverse outcome being short term headache and/or fatigue for a small percentage of people. The payoff from this is a 95% immunity rate.
If I was a gambling man I know what I'd rather bet on.
It will be some time before I get the chance to get the vaccine but I won't hesitate when the time comes. Not because I'm a sheeple or any such nonsense, I just don't want to get seriously ill or even have the chance of getting seriously ill. I want to get on with my life and go to packed cinemas and go to festivals and eat in restaurants and do all the other cool shit I miss.
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Northerner] 1
#27102749 - 12/22/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I initially was really skeptical of taking a new vaccine
But I’m warming up to it
I’m not anti vaccine and I believe in science and I trust our scientists are doing the right thing
I’m excited that an end may be in sight.
But it’s still difficult for me to take that shot. I am a bit of a hypochondriac, I’ve spent most of this quarantine wondering if I’m getting sick with COVID, every time I feel a tickle in my throat. I can see myself having a psychological reaction (anxiety attack) to the vaccine especially if I do experience physical side effects. That’s my own problem and I’m going to have to learn to deal with that. I’ll probably pop a benzo when I finally do get the vaccine. I’m going to need something to take the edge off.
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Northerner] 1
#27102779 - 12/22/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Northerner said: With more than 200,000 new daily cases and more than 3000 deaths every day, making it the leading cause of death in the US, outstripping both heart disease and cancer, I'm surprised that people would be so complacent about not taking the vaccine, especially when their data is based upon misleading Facebook posts. With those sort of transmission and mortality rates it won't be too long before every person in the US is touched by it personally, that should swing the fear of the known higher than the fear of the unknown, maybe make them rethink how they feel about risk aversion.
The Pfizer trial, although conducted relatively quickly, was actually massive. More than 40,000 people received the jab and in phase 3 there were no injuries at all. The only adverse outcome being short term headache and/or fatigue for a small percentage of people. The payoff from this is a 95% immunity rate.
If I was a gambling man I know what I'd rather bet on.
It will be some time before I get the chance to get the vaccine but I won't hesitate when the time comes. Not because I'm a sheeple or any such nonsense, I just don't want to get seriously ill or even have the chance of getting seriously ill. I want to get on with my life and go to packed cinemas and go to festivals and eat in restaurants and do all the other cool shit I miss.
Much like the aversion to previous vaccines. Rhetoric is cheap especially when the numbers are still lower than where they will be.
The reality is that most people will choose the best option. Ie taking the vaccine.
I was skeptical that the uptake would be enough but a very clever man was right months at a when he suggested my above paragraph.
This is a true silent majority.
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morrowasted
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: drr]
#27102784 - 12/22/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Then just have a psychological reaction.
I have asked roughly 10 people at work who got it already and so far none have had any side effect other than soreness at the injection site.
I do get the whole feeling guilty about getting it first because you feel healthy thing. I wish my parents, who are in theirs 70s, could get it in my place. But they can't, so I'm certainly not going to turn it down.
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Asante
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: morrowasted]
#27102970 - 12/22/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said:
The whole, you guys are so arrogant and full of hubris for shaming us act is a bunch of BS self victimization. Telling you that you are wrong isnt shaming you. Like i said, idgaf if you get vaccinated. I am getting mine tomorrow. I will be safer from covid than you will be. If you think thats no big deal, hey, by all means...
You'll intubate 'em all the same, right?
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morrowasted said: I wish my parents, who are in theirs 70s, could get it in my place. But they can't, so I'm certainly not going to turn it down.
No fuck it. Your patients arent taking care of all those patients at reat risk to the health of you and your loved ones. Good to be humble but you're essential, your hands are needed on on deck cause the storm is blowing full force. A retired used car salesman isnt as strategic to the national crisis response as you are.
They should give it to you with a platinum needle - this goes for all the heroes working actively to fight this.
A part of you is wound tight about what you're witnessing and the biohazard of it. That part will loosen up once your immunity starts kicking in. You deserve that.
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: Asante] 2
#27103077 - 12/22/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Had my first day at the new hospital today and got my shot the first day!
BITCHES!!!!
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Re: Covid Vaccinations start tomorrow - post when you get your shot [Re: metalfaith]
#27103079 - 12/22/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Even beat Morrow!!!
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