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Fruiting blocks vs monotubs
#27087503 - 12/13/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was curious, in commercial gourmet mushroom cultivation, I see people often fruit blocks. But when it comes to cubes, it’s mono tubs(even on large scale).
I was wondering why this is?
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Different types of mushrooms have different fruiting requirements.
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Gourmets are spawned to supplemented sawdust bags which naturally just become blocks. They're pretty much replacing the tree's that those species generally grow on. Cubensis grows on the ground in manure, or in fields with a layer of composted manure worked into the surface; tubs are mimicking those environmental conditions in the same way that blocks are artificial trees.
Cubes however do not need manure, gourmets do need wood products.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27087714 - 12/13/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's also much easier to grow cubes with a simple tub tek in any environment(or closet). People that run grow tents/rooms often use blocks for cubes as well.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: LtLurker]
#27087723 - 12/13/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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LtLurker said: It's also much easier to grow cubes with a simple tub tek in any environment(or closet). People that run grow tents/rooms often use blocks for cubes as well.
True but it’s good to note that the fruiting strategy often changes from many gourmets. Pleurotus species will be fruited off the side of the block via slits cut in the bag. Cubes would do better top fruited but cutting the top of the bag off and casing.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27087749 - 12/13/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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of course. I'm just saying it is done fairly often and that cubes aren't only done in tubs to address op's question.
IMO i think we see cubes way more in tubs than trays or blocks because it's simple and cheaper. People that run tents make trays or blocks to be more space efficient.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: LtLurker]
#27087757 - 12/13/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stacking monos is far more space efficient than any Greenhouse could ever be. The second you bring shelves into the equation you lose space.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27087763 - 12/13/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK fair. In my head i'm thinking of the green house as the only dedicated growing space, in which case i probably wouldn't stack mono's inside a controlled environment.
If you can stick mono's somewhere else and use your green house just for exotics and edibles then i see what you're saying. Or am i still not thinking this through?
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: LtLurker]
#27087770 - 12/13/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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LtLurker said: OK fair. In my head i'm thinking of the green house as the only dedicated growing space, in which case i probably wouldn't stack mono's inside a controlled environment.
If you can stick mono's somewhere else and use your green house just for exotics and edibles then i see what you're saying. Or am i still not thinking this through?
Totes are the perfect design for cubes, it's a perfectly designed self regulating and scalable environment, stacking is far better than some fancy looking shelving and lights.
Greenhouses are best suited for exactly what you've said, exotics and gourmet.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27087778 - 12/13/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea.. I agree. It's how i do all mine. There's still people that make controlled grow rooms and only grow in it. There's no reason you can't grow cubes that way and putting a tub inside a controlled enviro is redundant.
/e I think there's a little confusion here. I'm not arguing its superior, i'm just answering op's question. Maybe to phrase it better; cubes are sometimes grown on blocks when someone's circumstances make that their personal preferred method.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: LtLurker]
#27087790 - 12/13/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can grow cubes in rooms, tubs, tents, outside, kiddy pools and bathtubs ; )
It's not a matter of can.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27087805 - 12/13/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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LtLurker said: It's also much easier to grow cubes with a simple tub tek in any environment(or closet).
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LtLurker said: IMO i think we see cubes way more in tubs than trays or blocks because it's simple and cheaper.
I'm not seeing anywhere we disagree dude. Other than I stated seeing multiple scenerios where people grew their cubes on blocks for personal reasons other than novelty like HamLoaf's pool example.
Edited by LtLurker (12/13/20 07:07 PM)
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: LtLurker]
#27087820 - 12/13/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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My response was mostly for the benefit of the OP even though I quoted you.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27087854 - 12/13/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea dude, same. I just tried to give more reasons and a broader context.
There's a lot of cans vs best in this hobby. No plates? Can use pasty plates. No pc? Can use brf. There's more than one way to get things done given your situation that may not be considered ideal.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: LtLurker] 1
#27087856 - 12/13/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That’s true but I’ve run cubes in a grow room and figuratively speaking it felt like putting a lift kit on a Ferrari to go mudding.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#27087876 - 12/13/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why not both? These were in bottles then birthed while fruiting.

These were birthed during colonization and are beginning to knot, will have updates soonish.

They're "blocks" in a monotub, they're muda bottles in a pasty ez dial. It's a mudatub.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: starbones]
#27087898 - 12/13/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea man, it's a cool grow you got goin, i dig it. Blocks in a mono, jars in a mono, cakes in an unmod, top fruits, mudabottles, and on and on. Lotsa ways to do things. Cubes are versatile af.
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Re: Fruiting blocks vs monotubs [Re: LtLurker]
#27087918 - 12/13/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find sunflower seeds are oily and tend to poorly colonize. If I had the option to get grain without I would. HWFP have loads of lignin.
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