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Uncolonized grain on side of jar.
#27086942 - 12/13/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just a quick thought/question. Anyone ever worry about the uncolonized grains under the lid or on the wall before breaking up and spawning? When you shake at whatever percent if you're not careful and dont knock most of it down or you prepped your grains very wet etc they will get stuck in sometimes larger amounts that Im guessing cause problems to the unknowing cultivator.
Waiting on these jars to fully colonize but I noticed there's a couple grains stuck on the wall that arent colonized and probably wont get reached by the myc by the time the rest is 100% meaning I'm at like 99.5% colonization or something lol
Heres a picture for reference:

that's just a colonized grain bit on stuck on the side. what about the ones that didn't have myc when they got stuck up der?
What I've been doing is before shaking, opening up the jar and grabbing out these couple grains before I shake them into the rest so that they don't potentially end up germinating contams in my open air spawn. Does/has anyone else worried about this or done this? I figure the myc can recover and grab the last couple grains before anything too harmful happens most the time but what if I guess.
This would be less of a problem with.. Well anything but WBS but since WBS is so all over the place there's tons of hydrated juicey little grain flake thingies everywhere instead of just solid rye berries etc.
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Edited by Ababyphoenix (12/13/20 08:54 AM)
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Re: Uncolonized grain on side of jar. [Re: Ababyphoenix]
#27086977 - 12/13/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can't see anything.
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Re: Uncolonized grain on side of jar. [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27087011 - 12/13/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was going for more of a description. I can grab pictures but its not hard to imagine some grains stuck to a wall or lid too far away from a colony to have myc on it before everything looks colonized

In both of these pictures you can clearly see uncolonized wbs parts that are about to be reached by colonies also pressed to the glass. I spawned both of these already and opened (pre shake) to find lots of uncolonized bits on the glass and under the lid before I spawned it. My overall take is that these unnoticed pieces of uncolonized grain get shook into your spawn and thrown into open air. Not good. Especially the small particles and random fucking stuff in WBS as you can see in the picture so many tiny specs of hydrated mold food. Im switching back to rye berries or anything more solid and predicable than WBS.
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Edited by Ababyphoenix (12/13/20 09:35 AM)
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Re: Uncolonized grain on side of jar. [Re: Ababyphoenix]
#27087371 - 12/13/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you not just bang the jar fairly hard, bottom side down, on a table to knock the grains off the side of the jar? Like, after your final shake, bang the jar down a few times, hard enough to knock the grains off the glass but not hard enough to crack the jar, could even do it on a pumped up bike tyre to make sure you didn't crack it. Opening it, sticking your hand in, then sealing and shaking is sure to introduce contams to now damaged myc. Seems like a massive vector for contamination.
Edited by HappinessStan (12/13/20 02:25 PM)
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Re: Uncolonized grain on side of jar. [Re: HappinessStan]
#27088181 - 12/14/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ideally yes you would knock all the stuff off the inside walls after a shake but with WBS is hard to get 100% of it off. Im realizing this post is less about grains overall and more about WBS since its WBS...
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HappinessStan said: Opening it, sticking your hand in, then sealing and shaking is sure to introduce contams to now damaged myc. Seems like a massive vector for contamination.
Im not absolutely stupid am I? Please correct me if I'm wrong. opening up a jar and sticking my hand in is a vector for contamination. A huge one at that but arent you about to throw the grains in open air and mix by hand anyway? Correct me if I'm wrong but at the point of 100% colonization, the reason you can open the jar is that there are no longer any points of germination for competing cultures. This "damaged myc" this doesn't make sense to me Well.. there are germination points if you left that uncolonized grain in your spawn.
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