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knuxyljdw
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Wood and Dung cakes and new lids *DELETED*
#27086570 - 12/13/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Reason for deletion: i'm not wasting my time here
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Re: Wood and Dung cakes and new lids [Re: knuxyljdw]
#27086579 - 12/13/20 01:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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IMO you have gone to a lot of effort to reinvent the wheel as a triangle.
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Re: Wood and Dung cakes and new lids [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27086592 - 12/13/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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well it's a lot of effort to get subpar results from just pf tek, and the lids are a convenience. it's not too much more effort to just do a different substrate. i do have some oyster that have almost fully colonized a sorghum jar in just 4 days from inoculation, but I'm worried the fruits aren't going to be adequate. What do you think?
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Re: Wood and Dung cakes and new lids [Re: knuxyljdw]
#27086594 - 12/13/20 01:46 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think you would benefit from slowing down a notch.
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Re: Wood and Dung cakes and new lids [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27086598 - 12/13/20 01:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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take it easy, do some reading and you should be gucci
-------------------- Song Of Healing
Updated Pf Tek Guide Ziran's Teks AMU Q&A Thread The Chinese word for nature is zìrán and it means that of which is of itself.

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knuxyljdw
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Re: Wood and Dung cakes and new lids [Re: Ziran]
#27086605 - 12/13/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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apparently i was thoroughly wrong with my assumption i would get proper advice or feedback here.....
slow down take it easy read
not what i was expecting
please if you have nothing worth contributing than do not waste my or your time.
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Re: Wood and Dung cakes and new lids [Re: knuxyljdw]
#27086618 - 12/13/20 02:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is proper advice, it's just not the "advice" you wanted...
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knuxyljdw
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i asked for feedback on the substrate on the lids. im not sure what "slowing down" is going to do, or even where to apply that because is such a general no intelligent response. jesus gucking christ i knew u ppl would be like this, its some kind of internet herd mentality on forums. its like yall post this useless shit just to get high post counts or make urself seem better than others. its pathetic and im gone, tired of this brainless shit
yall r acting like this is my first rodeo and yall know better so instead of helping u just say shit to make urself feel higher. ive been doin this 8 years, thought it was time for innovation. been stuck on popcorn and it sucks. but fuck u and cya never
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Re: Wood and Dung cakes and new lids [Re: knuxyljdw]
#27087024 - 12/13/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay I got some feedback.
The lids look frankly ridiculous and I’m not sure what you’re even doing with them? Are they for use with a dry verm layer? Only two inoculation points is a big risk for stalling with cakes of any kind, and given the recipe for your manure cakes contains neither straw nor verm, I envision it being compressed into a jar of goop by the end of the sterilization cycle. 10 oz jars are also far too large for most cakes unless it’s really fluffed up with a lot of straw or verm to allow the colony to run.
Those are my thoughts on what I’ve seen. It’s possible I’m wrong on every count and you have a cache of amazing pics to back up your claims. If so please share em, everyone here loves mushroom pics.
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Re: Wood and Dung cakes and new lids [Re: knuxyljdw]
#27087085 - 12/13/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’ll try not to be a dick, and only give constructive feedback.
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knuxyljdw said: From my experience, sorghum is hands down the best and fastest colonizing grain. Rye berries and popcorn are terribly slow, and BRF I don't believe is the best option, so here is what I have come up with.
From my experience most grain perform very similarly when prepped appropriately. Grain choice is not terribly important as long as it is sterilized and hydrated properly. Perhaps your prep methods suit sorghum better than other grain? Popcorn is shit, and really is not a good benchmark to judge other grain by. BRF is great for beginners because it’s easy to source in small quantities, and does not require a pressure cooker. Again not something anyone concerned with yield or speed would choose.
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knuxyljdw said: Also, I believe 10oz jars would be best if fruiting from the cake. I will be testing this with murrels eventually, and hopefully a wood loving like reishi.
If you are using cakes, most recommend the wide mouth half pint jars. Half pint is 8 oz. what makes 2 extra ounces superior? In my experience using any cake type substrate in jars larger than half pint, or even in the tall half pints, can lead to stalling. Grains leave much more room for the myc to grow, and better gas exchange between the grains so is not a problem to go bigger.
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knuxyljdw said: I also came up with a new lid system. Through trial and error I got tired of all the aluminium foil, so for the initial LC jars I have 2 smalls holes drilled. On the underside is a piece of micropore tape over each hole. On the top each hole has a piece of micropore tape with a lot of RTV sealant on top of the tape. I fold in a corner on each piece of tape so I can easily remove it later. One of the holes up top is to be removed after PC for FAE. The RTV is to keep water out.
I tested this with an empty jar and put a piece of paper towel inside to test if it gets water in it during a PC. Unfortunately, it does, but the paper towel was still almost dry and the amount that got in wasn't nearly enough to make any kind of difference. Before I was having a ton of difficulty keeping water out during PC so I had to start putting foil between the jar and the lid, and then between the lid and the ring. It worked, but started warping lids and rings and it is a pain in the ass.
Ok, so most of this makes little sense to me, and here is why. You mention LC, so are you using liquid culture? Up until now you’ve been talking about cakes, and I think most of us assume you are using these lids for your cakes.
All that foil craziness is unnecessary. It does sound like a pain in the ass. If you need to go through all those hoops to keep water out of your jars, you’re doing something wrong. Coming up with a new lid, which is much more work to create, and not any improvement over what most are using is not really a good solution. Find out why you can’t keep water out of your jars during a PC cycle like 99% of the rest of us can.
I think the reason you got snarky replies is your approach. You came on here telling us you have the perfect solution without any reasoning behind it, or proof. Pics of good grows, BE numbers, yields, whatever. Anyone concerned with yield is not running cakes anyway, grain spawn to bulk sub always wins.
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