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On your third dui in my state you lose your license for life and have to do a mandatory year in jail.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: yeah]
#27087761 - 12/13/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't forget BMWankers
I used to want to be a BMWanker myself, but BMWs have lost their allure, I think.
There's too many of them now. They're everywhere. So are Mercedes for that matter.
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Theyre also garbage cars for the most part with fewer and fewer exceptions especially for the money
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: On your third dui in my state you lose your license for life and have to do a mandatory year in jail.
Yeah it's different per state. In California at least, 4th dui is a felony. And if anyone dies you get charged with manslaughter/murder.
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I would rather drive a Lexus than a BMW or Mercedes. They are just as reliable as a Toyota but only with a performance engine and more expensive.
And Lexus has not lowered their standards so that they could sell their cars to poor people like what BMW did with the shity one series and that other ugly ass fucking car they made for poor people. And what they fuck is the M1???
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: On your third dui in my state you lose your license for life and have to do a mandatory year in jail.
I knew a guy who had 3 if I recall correctly. Had to blow in one of those breathalyzer things just to start his car. He also had several drug possession counts on his record for good measure. Public intox arrests -- the whole nine. He was a severe alcoholic from high school on. He was a nice guy but he just couldn't shake his demons on that front. He lost job after job because he would show up to work completely hammered. Shit he would drink at work from what I heard. Sneaking off to the bathroom and pulling swigs off a flask.
In his late 20's he was driving (with a suspended license), drunk, and was going home one night at like 2 in the morning. He swerved into the wrong lane and hit some poor girl head on. She died. He survived and was charged...with intoxication manslaughter I think. Because of his extensive history they threw the book at him and he got like 30 plus years.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: Niffla]
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Im pretty sure I can smell the alcohol On myself long after I would technically be "sober" when I do drink. I'd have to agree with the guy talking about what the DUI teacher was saying I got 1 when I was wrecked on Xanax and heroin. Hit a curb and disabled my car. Cops showed up Fast.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: On your third dui in my state you lose your license for life and have to do a mandatory year in jail.
It's 9 months jail here in my state in Australia for a 3rd low range DUI. But it is in a 5 year period, not over a life time.
High range offences, like if you are driving completely smashed drunk, unable to walk, and drugged at the same time will probably see you in jail for a first offence. People die because of that sort of behaviour and you won't get much sympathy in a court.
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Northerner said: I've had 3 DUI's. One was straight up legit and I'd just gone out with the missus for a few, closing time came and we stupidly left first. Pulled out of the pub and got stopped immediately, blew 0.11. Copped a fine and 3 months suspension, which I didn't really care too much about because I was working at sea. But fair enough. I learned my lesson. I decided never again.
Years later got 2 bullshit ones though.
After one beer I got stopped for some bullshit reason and blew 0.02. I'd moved states the year before though and when I'd sold a vehicle before I moved the paperwork went wrong, but I didn't know because I wasn't there and I got a fine. Not knowing about the fine I didn't pay it so my licensed got suspended. Legal limit driving on a suspended licence is 0. Magistrate didn't care about any of these circumstances, 3 months suspension, big fine, community service and a year provisional to boot.
11 months into my provisional I got stopped at 6am driving to work. Blew 0.01. Provision said I must be 0. Plead my case in court, explained that the provisional licensed and last DUI was bullshit to begin with. Magistrate was actually pretty cool but also said his hands are tied, that he would chuck it out, but there's mandatory minimum sentencing laws on DUI. Lost my licence for 6 months, copped a fine that was reduced to some cool community service... but when I got my licensed back had to have this stupid machine in my car for a year that I had to blow into to start and blow into every 15 or 20 minutes while driving, to make sure I'm not drinking. Was fucked up bullshit with that stupid machine.
If I ever get another DUI I'll probably see a bit of jail as well as losing my license for years and all sorts of evil mandatory shit politicians have cooked up for repeat offenders.
The fourth DUI is a felony. Just wait 24 hours after your last sip of alcohol and you will be fine. You can have a bac even if you feel completely sober and literally are not buzzed anymore. That's why so many people get duis. They are sober but don't realize how long alcohol takes to leave your system and they get busted with a .01 or .02 and cops don't mind throwing people in jail for the slightest things. You reach the legal limit pretty fast and waiting until you're sober is not long enough for all the alcohol to completely digest. However many drinks you have, you should wait at least 2 hours per drink before driving. 4 drinks means you should wait 8 hours after your last sip.
If you are the kind of person who can drink a whole 12 pack or even a 24 pack in one sitting or in one day then you definitely should not drive for at least a FULL 24 hour day or two if you don't want to blow any blood alcohol content. This is what one of the teachers in the DUI school said.
Teachers at DUI school are like DARE teachers, not everything they say is based in reality. The human liver can process about 10g of pure ethanol per hour. It will keep working until all is processed. Extra drinks just queue the work it has to do. If you get home after work at 5 and drink 10 mid range beers you are definitely going to be alcohol free by 5am the next morning. You will probably feel like shit and be hungover, but you won't be drunk.
So 24 "standard" beers will put you over for 24 hours, but 12 won't.
Understanding how much alcohol is in a drink is important. There's calculators online to help with that shit if you ever wake up hungover and are worried about DUI.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: Northerner]
#27088018 - 12/13/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: On your third dui in my state you lose your license for life and have to do a mandatory year in jail.
It's 9 months jail here in my state in Australia for a 3rd low range DUI. But it is in a 5 year period, not over a life time.
High range offences, like if you are driving completely smashed drunk, unable to walk, and drugged at the same time will probably see you in jail for a first offence. People die because of that sort of behaviour and you won't get much sympathy in a court.
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Years later got 2 bullshit ones though.
After one beer I got stopped for some bullshit reason and blew 0.02. I'd moved states the year before though and when I'd sold a vehicle before I moved the paperwork went wrong, but I didn't know because I wasn't there and I got a fine. Not knowing about the fine I didn't pay it so my licensed got suspended. Legal limit driving on a suspended licence is 0. Magistrate didn't care about any of these circumstances, 3 months suspension, big fine, community service and a year provisional to boot.
11 months into my provisional I got stopped at 6am driving to work. Blew 0.01. Provision said I must be 0. Plead my case in court, explained that the provisional licensed and last DUI was bullshit to begin with. Magistrate was actually pretty cool but also said his hands are tied, that he would chuck it out, but there's mandatory minimum sentencing laws on DUI. Lost my licence for 6 months, copped a fine that was reduced to some cool community service... but when I got my licensed back had to have this stupid machine in my car for a year that I had to blow into to start and blow into every 15 or 20 minutes while driving, to make sure I'm not drinking. Was fucked up bullshit with that stupid machine.
If I ever get another DUI I'll probably see a bit of jail as well as losing my license for years and all sorts of evil mandatory shit politicians have cooked up for repeat offenders.
The fourth DUI is a felony. Just wait 24 hours after your last sip of alcohol and you will be fine. You can have a bac even if you feel completely sober and literally are not buzzed anymore. That's why so many people get duis. They are sober but don't realize how long alcohol takes to leave your system and they get busted with a .01 or .02 and cops don't mind throwing people in jail for the slightest things. You reach the legal limit pretty fast and waiting until you're sober is not long enough for all the alcohol to completely digest. However many drinks you have, you should wait at least 2 hours per drink before driving. 4 drinks means you should wait 8 hours after your last sip.
If you are the kind of person who can drink a whole 12 pack or even a 24 pack in one sitting or in one day then you definitely should not drive for at least a FULL 24 hour day or two if you don't want to blow any blood alcohol content. This is what one of the teachers in the DUI school said.
Teachers at DUI school are like DARE teachers, not everything they say is based in reality. The human liver can process about 10g of pure ethanol per hour. It will keep working until all is processed. Extra drinks just queue the work it has to do. If you get home after work at 5 and drink 10 mid range beers you are definitely going to be alcohol free by 5am the next morning. You will probably feel like shit and be hungover, but you won't be drunk.
So 24 "standard" beers will put you over for 24 hours, but 12 won't.
Understanding how much alcohol is in a drink is important. There's calculators online to help with that shit if you ever wake up hungover and are worried about DUI.
You misunderstood me. Every standard drink takes 2 hours to clear your system. 12 beers will put you out for 24 hours, driving-wise, 24 beers will put you out longer than 24 hours. A lot of people get hammered at night and then go to sleep drunk and then get a dui the very next day with a bac. I can also tell you didn't read the entire thread, which is fine. The charts you see for bac are false and misleading. They were made in the old days when a standard drink was a 1/4 of what it is now.
My dui school teachers were NOT like DARE teachers lol. Last I remember, COPS teach the DARE program. My dui school teachers are all recovering alcoholics and have gotten dui's themselves. They were actually pretty cool. They didn't give a shit if we got off topic, which we learned we could do to make time pass faster. I was able to discuss openly my marijuana use and I even talked about a spiritual mushroom trip I had at the time. One of the teachers was native American and understood the peyote ceremony so she understood me. I actually kinda miss dui school in a strange way because it was the only place I could really talk openly about my shit and not be judged. You end up making buddies in dui school and you all offer advice to each other. Not all dui schools are like this. It was complete no bullshit open discussion.
Anyway, I hope you don't get anymore DUI'S.
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Drinking multiple days in a row also increases your bac.
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Yes I have read the whole thread, but that is irrelevant.
Your liver processes about 10g of ethanol per hour
Here's a calculator that helps relate what this means into actual drinks
https://www.rupissed.com/
Then added to those variables there are genetic and health variables that will effect the breakdown as well. Surprisingly alcoholics process and break down alcohol quicker than non addicts, this is how they can get away with drinking markedly more, amounts that would hospitalize ordinary people.
Alcohol is clearly a very dangerous and poisonous drug, I agree I overstepped the mark there comparing DUI counsellors to DARE fools, I apologise. Just the truth about what alcohol is and what it does is a horror show, there are no lies required.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Drinking multiple days in a row also increases your bac.
I don't understand the context. It's very ambiguous. Is this binge drinking? Having a drink every day? Drinking all day every day? Alone it is not something that is meaningful.
Ex alcoholics are not always a great source of information on alcohol. They are as prone to bias as the next person, and having escaped an addiction does not make one an expert on the drug itself. This is coming from an ex alcoholic, you see.
I do like science for this sort of info though. Oftentimes more reliable.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: Northerner]
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What your liver processes and what you blow is completely different. Why are you complicating this? You can be completely sober but still blow a .02. Shit that one girl still blew .08 even after waiting a few hours to make sure she wasn't "drunk."
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I wouldn't rely on some calculator to tell me whether or not I'm going to get a fucking DUI. Honestly this is probably why you have three DUIs. Like you didn't learn the second time. Not trying to be rude or anything but let's just keep making excuses as to why it's ok to have a drink before driving. the legal limit doesn't mean shit anymore. A cop will charge you with a DUI with the .01 or .02 because if he doesn't take you to jail then he is liable if you get into an accident after he pulls you over and let's you go free with a bac of .02.
Back in the 70s, according to all the recovering alcoholic old timers, cops only took you to jail if you actually blew .08 or more. But then more people started getting into accidents after getting pulled over so now the cop just takes you to jail no matter what just to cover his ass. You could blow a 0% on the breathalyzer but if the cop thinks you are IMPAIRED then he will take you to jail.
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Whatever man. I wrote in clear detail how and why I got 3 DUIs.
Alcohol isn't magical shit that stays in your system for odd reasons. It's just a chemical. It is removed from your system by 2 enzymes in your liver, and also breathed and sweat out to a much smaller degree. Your age, height, weight, sex and genetics as well as general health can effect the rate it is metabolized. That's all there is to it.
If you are breathing out alcohol it is because it is in your blood. If your liver is processing alcohol it is in your blood. If it's in your blood you are effected by it, whether or not you believe you are drunk or not is irrelevant. You cannot blow 0 on an accurate device when it's in your blood, physically impossible.
You can believe whatever you want, but that is the simple science behind it.
I think this conversation has become circular, so I'll not respond again.
I hope you too never get another DUI. Good luck.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: Northerner]
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For the record I don't trust bac calculators. I think the cops use super issue ones
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igordalbaeb said: No, I'm not a fucking moron. Anyone who drives drunk or stoned should lose their license for 5 years.
What do you drive? Toyotadopes and Mustangers are more dangerous to be around than one who has a little booze or cannabis in hir system.
Don't forget BMWankers
Yes! I actually had BMW and Audi drivers in my original post before I decided to truncate it.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: I would rather drive a Lexus than a BMW or Mercedes. They are just as reliable as a Toyota but only with a performance engine and more expensive.
And Lexus has not lowered their standards so that they could sell their cars to poor people like what BMW did with the shity one series and that other ugly ass fucking car they made for poor people. And what they fuck is the M1???
I've been wanting to make a(nother!) thread based upon my opinion that people should never buy a Toyota/Lexus. Yes they have a long standing reputation for reliability but I firmly believe that Toyota ownership has a negative psychological impact upon the driver that extends into their personal ideology, not to mention being reflective ov poor taste. Toyotadopes are not only a scourge ov the roadways but potentially ov society at large.
I would'nt say that BMW lowered their standards for less wealthy people; they've long had entry level lines. BMW has a tradition for a high quality standard throughout their model range that's let down by overengineered complexity. What they have become is overly complex throughout the range and the horrible reputation for reliability is reflective ov their poor execution ov overengineering. Entry level BMWs used to be simple compared to their more expensive siblings. You can now have upscale BMW upkeep and repair costs with all their vehicles! The entry level BMWs used to be demonstrative ov their slogan, "ultimate driving machine", by closing the divide betwixt road and driver, and appealed more to those who wanted a car for the driving experience. The modern technology-forward(or backward!) approach ov BMW appeals to a type ov ignorant arrogance that favors the destination rather than the drive and thus the image over the experience. One who wants to be seen driving rather than be involved in driving. And in the case ov younger BMW drivers, this translates into a high prevalence ov arrogant roadway douchebaggery.
Perhaps you're thinking ov the 1M. The BMW M1 was a cool ass car and a bright spot in BMWs lineage, however rare as they are. That car was capable and good looking, its styling blending the crisp Giugiaro design element as seen in the beautiful Detomaso Pantera with purposeful Germanic form.
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By the way, for marijuana, they only charge you for the amount of ACTIVE THC in your blood. They do not charge you for the amount of metabolized THC. They can tell the difference when they do a blood test.
Good to know they analyze only active THC and not metabolites. But still, I feel that THC has a relatively long half life and can remain in the blood for a while.
Too bad they'll never get my blood.
Straight up...If I'm ever in such a situation I will never ever let them take my blood. Fuck that for so many different reasons. From the start, I hate needles. Two, I have a major issue with anyone or any "agency" taking my bodily fluids other than for doctor visits/medical related things (I won't even piss in a cup for pre-employment). Three, my blood will only be used against me.
If I ever find myself in such a situation I'll choose to have my license suspended for a year instead of giving into the various tests and letting some people take blood from my body so they can see how much THC is in it. At that point it'd likely be the cheaper option for me anyway, since I'm pretty sure my blood always has a lot of THC in it if they test it I'll likely be getting a DUI (which would be a suspended license anyway, along with tons of other fines).
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: openmind]
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I only drive a Toyota because it's the only car I can think of that will last way longer than 200k miles without anything major needing replacement. I'm honestly sick of Toyota because their cars are too simple and they have no pick up.Quote:
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By the way, for marijuana, they only charge you for the amount of ACTIVE THC in your blood. They do not charge you for the amount of metabolized THC. They can tell the difference when they do a blood test.
Too bad they'll never get my blood.
Straight up...If I'm ever in such a situation I will never ever let them take my blood. Fuck that for so many different reasons. From the start, I hate needles. Two, I have a major issue with anyone or any "agency" taking my bodily fluids other than for doctor visits/medical related things (I won't even piss in a cup for pre-employment). Three, my blood will only be used against me.
If I ever find myself in such a situation I'll choose to have my license suspended for a year instead of giving into the various tests and letting some people take blood from my body so they can see how much THC is in it. At that point it'd likely be the cheaper option for me anyway, since I'm pretty sure my blood always has a lot of THC in it if they test it I'll likely be getting a DUI (which would be a suspended license anyway, along with tons of other fines).
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You won't be able to get away with that nowadays. All the cop needs to do is send a little text message to the judge and then the judge issues the warrant for your DNA. they get a couple of cops to restrain you and then they draw your blood.
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