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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: igordalbaeb]
#27087188 - 12/13/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I was a cop, I would drag out any hippie clown with read dreads out of their car and beat the shit out of them.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: igordalbaeb]
#27087199 - 12/13/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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igordalbaeb said: If you leftist cunts want weed to be legal then be ready to take responsibility for your actions. If you drive stoned, you will lose your license. Simple as that. If I was a cop, I would drag out any hippie clown with read dreads out of their car and beat the shit out of them.
some people can handle driving stoned though, I personally couldnt, brew grew up in a family where everyone used to drive stoned, no accidnets
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: gopher]
#27087202 - 12/13/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That guys full blown retarded and had no concept of reality and is also a violent sack of human garbage.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: psi]
#27087239 - 12/13/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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psi said: .....My belief is that with chronic cannabis use you are always pretty stoned, even the next day. And that is likely what a blood test would reflect. Some would argue that x blood level doesn't necessarily mean you are impaired.
I'm a daily smoker but I don't wake up stoned the next day. Within 2 hours after smoking I'm usually pretty "sober" again. Cannabis doesn't really impair me though, unless I'm extremely stoned I can function just fine.
That is one thing I worry about though since I always have THC metabolites in my system....
I haven't smoked at all yet today and I don't feel high or stoned in anyway at all right now...but since I've been a daily smoker of cannabis for years now the levels of THC and THC metabolites in my blood/system are likely always beyond the legal limit.
So even though I'm 100% sober and not impaired at all right now, even though I have not put any drug into my system today, according to the metabolites in my blood I am likely far beyond the legal limit and could be considered a DUI of cannabis.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: igordalbaeb] 1
#27087258 - 12/13/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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igordalbaeb said: If you leftist cunts want weed to be legal then be ready to take responsibility for your actions. If you drive stoned, you will lose your license. Simple as that. If I was a cop, I would drag out any hippie clown with read dreads out of their car and beat the shit out of them.
yeah fuck the scientific process and actually figuring out the extent to which marijuana intoxication impairs driving, let's presume that because alcohol significantly impairs driving, weed necessarily does as well, and throw a bunch of people in prison. fantastic idea. you're the worst trollpuppet of december, congrats
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27087301 - 12/13/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Most people who get dui's are NOT even actually intoxicated at the time they were pulled over. Most of the people in my DUI class were either slightly buzzed or not even drunk at all when they got pulled over but they still had a blood-alcohol content. Alcohol has a very deceptive digestion rate. All of those blood alcohol charts are also outdated and were created when a standard size alcohol drink was smaller. Back in the old days a standard alcohol drink was one quarter of a fluid ounce of 80 proof liquor which is basically a quarter of today's shots. At least this is what one of my teachers from DUI school stated.
Nowadays, with today's drink sizes (12oz beer, 5oz wine, or 1oz of 80 proof liquor), it actually takes 2 hours for a standard drink to fully digest, but that 2 hour number goes up exponentially the more alcohol you have. A lot of people who blow .2 or higher are either not drunk at the time or just barely buzzed. People who blow a high number like that were more than likely drinking throughout the entire day but not really getting drunk like only drinking one or two beers per hour but the way alcohol digests, it never really leaves their system and it just keeps accumulating. All of the people who blew .2 in my DUI class were not drunk at the time but they did report that they had been drinking nearly all day but not getting drunk like just having one or two drinks per hour. The reason they got pulled over was because they did something stupid like blowing through a stop sign or not using their turn signal or just something dumb and pretty like that.
based on this information, if you get drunk, you should probably just wait a full 24 hours before driving if you don't want to risk getting a DUI. especially all you people who love to smash down eight or more beers in one sitting.
There was one girl in my DUI class who had been awake since 3 a.m. for work and at the end of that day her and one of her friends went to a bar and had three drinks. Only 3 drinks. She waited a few hours until she didn't feel buzzed whatsoever anymore. By this time she had been awake for 24 hours. On the way driving home, she fell asleep at the wheel and rear ended someone. the reason she fell asleep at the wheel was because she had been awake for 24 hours, It had nothing to do with the alcohol. So she wasn't even buzzed at all but guess what she blew on the breathalyzer? .08%, gee, just the limit and she wasnt even fucking buzzed in the slightest. This is why most DUIs are bullshit.
The night I got arrested, literally the only reason I got pulled over was because I accidentally had my hazard lights on. The cop lied on the report and said I was swerving but I swear to God I was not fucking swerving. I failed the field sobriety test because it was fucking freezing that night and the cops made me do all the bullshit without a sweater. I was also wearing the cheapest sandals you can possibly get from Walmart. My lawyer told me that all of the field sobriety tests are a bunch of biased bullshit and that even a lot of people who are SOBER cannot even do them. They are designed to be failed easily.
By the way, for marijuana, they only charge you for the amount of ACTIVE THC in your blood. They do not charge you for the amount of metabolized THC. They can tell the difference when they do a blood test. I lied to the cop and told him that the last time I smoked was two hours prior to getting pulled over but based on my blood content, my lawyer knew for a fact that I had literally just got done smoking or smoked way sooner than just 2 hours. So with a blood test, they can tell if you are high or not. If you are not high then there will be zero ACTIVE THC in your blood but the METABOLITES of THC will be high but you don't get charged for already digested THC because technically it takes 30 days for THC to leave your system so all they know is that you could have smoked weed 30 days ago. ONLY the ACTIVE thc is considered in a conviction.
And 99% of the time you can bet that the cop is going to lie through his teeth and make things up on the report.
Oh and I have had way more close calls regarding getting into a possible accident due to texting and driving as opposed to being high and driving.
also, the average amount of times that a person drives intoxicated in the year before they get caught is around 80 on the low end and 100 on the high end. what this means is that any random Joe schmoes that you pull from the population has probably driven intoxicated 80 to a hundred times or more in their lifetime.
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And also there was a dude in my DUI class who had a few drinks at a cheesecake factory restaurant. When he left the restaurant in his car, he made a "wide turn" when he pulled out of the restaurant driveway and he got pulled over instantly. Cops like to hide places where there are nice restaurants where people get drunk at and they will just wait for somebody to make a wide turn or not use their turn signal or something stupid.
so you should be driving as if there is a cop hiding somewhere at any given time.
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Man.. I used to be that all day every day smoker. I remember driving over the grapevine at night, and going 100mph while hitting a bowl So I can't judge anyone. But honestly, kids, it's not a good idea. If I'm planning on getting fucked up at all, I ride my bike or take an uber. Way less stress.
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No. Never driven drunk and I make sure me and my friends never get in cars with drunk people.
Weed is not as impairing as alcohol. I still don't drive until I've waited 2 hours after smoking. But there is no law about what constitutes impaired driving on marijuana so they could probably pop you for driving after smoking 12 hours ago. who knows.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#27087363 - 12/13/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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does driving before it kicks in count as DUI? I popped some mushrooms once and hopped on a E-Bike to get to my gfs house, it only took me 15 minutes though to get there
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: openmind]
#27087365 - 12/13/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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psi said: .....My belief is that with chronic cannabis use you are always pretty stoned, even the next day. And that is likely what a blood test would reflect. Some would argue that x blood level doesn't necessarily mean you are impaired.
I'm a daily smoker but I don't wake up stoned the next day. Within 2 hours after smoking I'm usually pretty "sober" again. Cannabis doesn't really impair me though, unless I'm extremely stoned I can function just fine.
That is one thing I worry about though since I always have THC metabolites in my system....
I haven't smoked at all yet today and I don't feel high or stoned in anyway at all right now...but since I've been a daily smoker of cannabis for years now the levels of THC and THC metabolites in my blood/system are likely always beyond the legal limit.
So even though I'm 100% sober and not impaired at all right now, even though I have not put any drug into my system today, according to the metabolites in my blood I am likely far beyond the legal limit and could be considered a DUI of cannabis.
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Yeah it probably varies by individual metabolism. When I smoke chronically, I feel "not stoned" after x amount of time in the sense of feeling like I would be more stoned again, but the permafog is always there.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: gopher]
#27087384 - 12/13/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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gopher said: does driving before it kicks in count as DUI? I popped some mushrooms once and hopped on a E-Bike to get to my gfs house, it only took me 15 minutes though to get there
Good question. No it does not count if it does not kick in by the time you take a blood test. I took a Seroquel pill right before my drive because I wanted it to kick in by the time I got to my destination so I could go to sleep. The cop asked me if I took anything recently besides weed and I told him about the Seroquel. I probably should not have told him but even after I got to the station and did the blood test, no Seroquel showed up in the blood test. They did a specific test for Seroquel that they probably would not have done had I not told the cop that I took it. So I did not get charged for the Seroquel. Only the weed.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: Niffla]
#27087389 - 12/13/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Niffla said:
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If I was a cop, I would drag out any hippie clown with read dreads out of their car and beat the shit out of them.

The crazy story about that pic is each student got a $30k payout from a lawsuit for it, and the officer somehow got a $38k workmans comp check because people made fun of him.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: feevers]
#27087399 - 12/13/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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no dui but they recommend not driving after getting stoned
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I've had 3 DUI's. One was straight up legit and I'd just gone out with the missus for a few, closing time came and we stupidly left first. Pulled out of the pub and got stopped immediately, blew 0.11. Copped a fine and 3 months suspension, which I didn't really care too much about because I was working at sea. But fair enough. I learned my lesson. I decided never again.
Years later got 2 bullshit ones though.
After one beer I got stopped for some bullshit reason and blew 0.02. I'd moved states the year before though and when I'd sold a vehicle before I moved the paperwork went wrong, but I didn't know because I wasn't there and I got a fine. Not knowing about the fine I didn't pay it so my licensed got suspended. Legal limit driving on a suspended licence is 0. Magistrate didn't care about any of these circumstances, 3 months suspension, big fine, community service and a year provisional to boot.
11 months into my provisional I got stopped at 6am driving to work. Blew 0.01. Provision said I must be 0. Plead my case in court, explained that the provisional licensed and last DUI was bullshit to begin with. Magistrate was actually pretty cool but also said his hands are tied, that he would chuck it out, but there's mandatory minimum sentencing laws on DUI. Lost my licence for 6 months, copped a fine that was reduced to some cool community service... but when I got my licensed back had to have this stupid machine in my car for a year that I had to blow into to start and blow into every 15 or 20 minutes while driving, to make sure I'm not drinking. Was fucked up bullshit with that stupid machine.
If I ever get another DUI I'll probably see a bit of jail as well as losing my license for years and all sorts of evil mandatory shit politicians have cooked up for repeat offenders.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: Northerner]
#27087575 - 12/13/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya I actually have two but didn’t want to admit it. No real excuse but I was making bad decisions going through some legit depressing stuff. I got some jail time, then Huber, then house arrest didn’t a few months and a big fine. That was after paying 5k for a master which I honestly couldn’t afford it all so I got some help.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: psi]
#27087580 - 12/13/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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psi said: Yeah that is fucked up if it's just the cop's word. Here they did introduce some fucked up stuff around the time of cannabis legalization to placate the MADD types.
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The changes, which took effect last month, make it a criminal offence to have too high of a blood-alcohol level within two hours of driving. There are exceptions for people who consumed the alcohol that put them over the limit after they stopped driving – but it falls on the motorist to prove that.
The two-hour rule means police no longer have to catch an impaired driver before they leave their vehicle. Officers can show up at a suspect’s home or workplace, or wherever else they may be, demanding a breath sample.
I never followed up on this but there was at least 2 cases in the news where someone insisted they arrived home after work, started drinking, and were over the limit by the time the cops arrived. I have no idea if they were telling the truth, but I remember even seeing a few lawyers comment on how ridiculous the law had become and that it would be difficult to hold up in court.
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#27087669 - 12/13/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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igordalbaeb said: No, I'm not a fucking moron. Anyone who drives drunk or stoned should lose their license for 5 years.
What do you drive? Toyotadopes and Mustangers are more dangerous to be around than one who has a little booze or cannabis in hir system.
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Re: Who has gotten a DUI in here? [Re: Northerner]
#27087754 - 12/13/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Northerner said: I've had 3 DUI's. One was straight up legit and I'd just gone out with the missus for a few, closing time came and we stupidly left first. Pulled out of the pub and got stopped immediately, blew 0.11. Copped a fine and 3 months suspension, which I didn't really care too much about because I was working at sea. But fair enough. I learned my lesson. I decided never again.
Years later got 2 bullshit ones though.
After one beer I got stopped for some bullshit reason and blew 0.02. I'd moved states the year before though and when I'd sold a vehicle before I moved the paperwork went wrong, but I didn't know because I wasn't there and I got a fine. Not knowing about the fine I didn't pay it so my licensed got suspended. Legal limit driving on a suspended licence is 0. Magistrate didn't care about any of these circumstances, 3 months suspension, big fine, community service and a year provisional to boot.
11 months into my provisional I got stopped at 6am driving to work. Blew 0.01. Provision said I must be 0. Plead my case in court, explained that the provisional licensed and last DUI was bullshit to begin with. Magistrate was actually pretty cool but also said his hands are tied, that he would chuck it out, but there's mandatory minimum sentencing laws on DUI. Lost my licence for 6 months, copped a fine that was reduced to some cool community service... but when I got my licensed back had to have this stupid machine in my car for a year that I had to blow into to start and blow into every 15 or 20 minutes while driving, to make sure I'm not drinking. Was fucked up bullshit with that stupid machine.
If I ever get another DUI I'll probably see a bit of jail as well as losing my license for years and all sorts of evil mandatory shit politicians have cooked up for repeat offenders.
The fourth DUI is a felony. Just wait 24 hours after your last sip of alcohol and you will be fine. You can have a bac even if you feel completely sober and literally are not buzzed anymore. That's why so many people get duis. They are sober but don't realize how long alcohol takes to leave your system and they get busted with a .01 or .02 and cops don't mind throwing people in jail for the slightest things. You reach the legal limit pretty fast and waiting until you're sober is not long enough for all the alcohol to completely digest. However many drinks you have, you should wait at least 2 hours per drink before driving. 4 drinks means you should wait 8 hours after your last sip.
If you are the kind of person who can drink a whole 12 pack or even a 24 pack in one sitting or in one day then you definitely should not drive for at least a FULL 24 hour day or two if you don't want to blow any blood alcohol content. This is what one of the teachers in the DUI school said.
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