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OfflineAlbinoTerryenvy
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Need help
    #27086394 - 12/12/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hello my name is Terry I’m new to the shroom scene.... But I’ve never loved anything more in my life it’s amazing I love the experiences I love cultivating them it’s just spiritual and wholesome... Anyway I’m kind of down I recently stumbled upon yalls dosage calculator, I seen it had an MAO I variable.
The medication that are in question I am getting off professionally with the help of a doctor...Long story short I take Abilify, gabapentin and Vistaril. I understand this affects my trips my worst nightmare is that it’s stops or prevents me from taking them altogether due to something like serotonin syndrome


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Re: Need help [Re: AlbinoTerryenvy]
    #27086610 - 12/13/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

From the wikipedia articles on those drugs, Abilify and Vistaril seem to both have 5HT-2A receptor antagonism as a notable effect which will weaken your experience as far as I understand. However, the wikipedia articles for Abilify and gabapentin also reveal that their usual use is for treating quite severe neurological disorders (schizophrenia and seizures, respectively), so I'm not sure that anyone here would recommend you to use psychedelics if that is why you're taking them.

As far as serotonin syndrome goes, I don't believe that psilocybin/psilocin can actually cause it, as it only mimics serotonin (I'm not a professional source mind you, I've just heard that argument on forums like this). This is more of a danger with combinations of SSRIs/MAOIs and MDA/MDMA, because the latter actually causes release of serotonin itself, and the former prevent reuptake/breakdown of serotonin.


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OfflineAlbinoTerryenvy
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Re: Need help [Re: quillip]
    #27086780 - 12/13/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you very much


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OfflineAlbinoTerryenvy
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Re: Need help [Re: quillip]
    #27086782 - 12/13/20 06:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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quillip said:
From the wikipedia articles on those drugs, Abilify and Vistaril seem to both have 5HT-2A receptor antagonism as a notable effect which will weaken your experience as far as I understand. However, the wikipedia articles for Abilify and gabapentin also reveal that their usual use is for treating quite severe neurological disorders (schizophrenia and seizures, respectively), so I'm not sure that anyone here would recommend you to use psychedelics if that is why you're taking them.

As far as serotonin syndrome goes, I don't believe that psilocybin/psilocin can actually cause it, as it only mimics serotonin (I'm not a professional source mind you, I've just heard that argument on forums like this). This is more of a danger with combinations of SSRIs/MAOIs and MDA/MDMA, because the latter actually causes release of serotonin itself, and the former prevent reuptake/breakdown of serotonin.




Yeah yeah yeah every fucking thread has a guy who spends way too much time on the forums n bitches at the guy asking the question why do you scroll through threads if you don’t wanna answer questions, because they’ve been asked and answered before?


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OfflineAlbinoTerryenvy
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Re: Need help [Re: AlbinoTerryenvy]
    #27086783 - 12/13/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks, and no it’s for treatment of addiction


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Re: Need help [Re: AlbinoTerryenvy]
    #27087679 - 12/13/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Abilify will significantly influence the mushroom experience and dampen and/or limit the experience and make it ruined. 

Vistaril is is just an anti-histamine that helps anxiety, that shouldn't really influence the trip much at all other then some potential physical unwanted effects (dry mouth, dizziness, etc.) but if you're used to the medication it shouldn't be an issue.

Gabapentin will also slightly lower the visuals you see, dampen the mental headspace you get, and overall make the experience lesser.  It won't ruin the experience though.  Especially if you just don't take it the day you trip and take your dosage after the trip is over then you'll be 100% fine.

So the Vistaril and gabapentin aren't really to worry about in terms of impacting your trip.  As well with both those medications, you can also just not take them before your trip and take your dose after the trip is done.  The Abilify is what will be completely limiting your psychedelic mushroom trip.  Go ahead and get off that med safely with your doctors help and then go enjoy the experience!


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