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OneRabidMonk
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Supposed to be GT's
#27086366 - 12/12/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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These came from a multi-spore syringe labeled Golden Teachers. I've only ever grown white stemmed shrooms before these are more yellow.
The others bruised blue fast. These take longer and isn't that brilliant blue.
I'm worried these are not shrooms and maybe even not safe.
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They look like Cubensis to me. Not all psilocybes bruise. Most potent mushies I've worked with did not bruise at all.
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Those are cubes for sure.
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Re: Supposed to be GT's [Re: Nichrome]
#27086381 - 12/12/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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They're not just good they're golden. Teachers.
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You're worried those aren't shrooms???
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The label slapped on a syringe often means little. Do a few 100 grows and the term βstrainβ might mean something. But likely not. You got your target species. Thatβs whatβs important.
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Melliferous said: They look like Cubensis to me. Not all psilocybes bruise. Most potent mushies I've worked with did not bruise at all.
Which actives don't bruise? I understand that heavy or light bruising is not a good indicator of potency, but I've been under the impression that every active shroom will bruise.
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Ps semilanceata are known to rarely or only sporadically bruise. Iβve grown non bruising cubes before, RW can often produce non bruising fruit that will still rock your shit.
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I have a couple of nice cultures that are light bruisers, but I've never seen a cube that didn't bruise at all. I don't doubt it. Never seen it first hand though.
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These are all different filial generations of RW



Although oddly enough I havenβt seen it in the 9th gen which while still a light bruiser from damage, has its caps turn a pale blue in the dehydrator.
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It'd be interesting to know if this lack of bruising has anything to do with the psilocybin/psilocin ratio or any missing the phosphatase that dephosphorylate psilocybin in the mushroom body. That is considering the current research that points to the polymerization of psilocin as the responsible for bruises. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/anie.201910175
If it were to be high on psilocybin and low in psilocin and dephosphorylation did not occur in the mushroom that would explain the normal potency and low bruise. Intense bruise according to the polymerization explanation would necessarily decrease potency as the psilocin polymer becomes inactive, but maybe the coloring effect is so strong you only need a little bit of it to make everything pretty blue upon handling.
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Re: Supposed to be GT's [Re: shroower]
#27087033 - 12/13/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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One thing that Iβve noticed about these non bruising yet potent fruits is when you do a fresh extract with them, rather than turning the water blue, it turns yellow. These fruits also have a yellow/golden coloured stipe, as opposed to the usual off white color they have.
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That's consistent with the stipes in OP's photos. Although, his fruits are bruising a little bit.
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Pastywhyte said: One thing that Iβve noticed about these non bruising yet potent fruits is when you do a fresh extract with them, rather than turning the water blue, it turns yellow. These fruits also have a yellow/golden coloured stipe, as opposed to the usual off white color they have.
This is fascinating! For your RW, did the golden stipe trait carryover from the CRS or the AA+?
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For reference purposes, here are some examples of what "GT" "can" look like.

Most look a little more normal lol. These are oddballs.
GT can make anything from 12 inch mosters with dinner plates for heads to tiny little dudes that cluster up like crazy. They make shorties and fatties and vary from culture to culture.
Those look like they are probably of the GT lineage.
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Melliferous said:
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Pastywhyte said: One thing that Iβve noticed about these non bruising yet potent fruits is when you do a fresh extract with them, rather than turning the water blue, it turns yellow. These fruits also have a yellow/golden coloured stipe, as opposed to the usual off white color they have.
This is fascinating! For your RW, did the golden stipe trait carryover from the CRS or the AA+?
To be honest Iβm not 100% sure where that trait came from, I suspect it was the CRS. However Iβve not positive having not grown either CRS or AA+ more than a handful of times.
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To be honest Iβm not 100% sure where that trait came from, I suspect it was the CRS. However Iβve not positive having not grown either CRS or AA+ more than a handful of times.
Hmm, well I'm glad it worked out. They're beautiful
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