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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said: I didn't say that. You could, however, shut the proverbial fuck up instead of going out of your way to minimize those deaths just because you don't know anyone who died.

Jeez.
Is this my shaming?
US has a morbid culture when it comes to death.
Other cultures celebrate it.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead] 3
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that was a really childish thing to say, that other cultures celebrate death
they don't celebrate death if it can be avoided, huge difference, unless you are thinking Jim Jones kind of deaths, even those people were not entirely on board
this is the only thing i will say to you though bc i have seen you here for a bit, and you say some of the dumbest things i have ever read, but consistently, at least you are consistent and not subtle, so people know to avoid you
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: masspan] 1
#27025691 - 11/06/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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masspan said: that was a really childish thing to say, that other cultures celebrate death
they don't celebrate death if it can be avoided, huge difference, unless you are thinking Jim Jones kind of deaths, even those people were not entirely on board
this is the only thing i will say to you though bc i have seen you here for a bit, and you say some of the dumbest things i have ever read, but consistently, at least you are consistent and not subtle, so people know to avoid you
Yup, I'm sheltered. Mostly harmless.
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/in-uttarakhands-hills-a-2000-year-old-funeral-tradition-is-dying/articleshow/69572441.cms
https://www.outlookindia.com/outlooktraveller/explore/story/69375/5-ways-death-is-celebrated-around-the-world
https://www.travelandleisure.com/trip-ideas/adventure-travel/varanasi-india-death-celebrations
That's all I'll say on that.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead]
#27085411 - 12/12/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27085269#27085269

Didn't expect to see that chain link reference.
A friend at my local game shop is trying to convince me to wear a face shield instead of a mask, so that I can play with cardboard rectangles with them.
The shop owner will allow it.
I'm heavily debating with myself if I should.
It will prove points.
1. If I am allowed to wear a face shield instead of a cloth face covering, where does the science fit in?
2. When I step out to use a vape, I will be able to keep a face shield down. This visualization of vape and how a face shield does jack shit at preventing aerosol transmission. Because that's what this whole argument about mask is about. Large droplets fall, no duh. So, be considerate and "say it, don't spray it."
3. Cloth face mask gather bacteria. There are many people suffering from mask face. Younger guy at work, broke out with acne on his neck and face where his mask resides. IMO, not at all good for confidence.
So, I'm on a fence.
I want to play cards with muh friends, but don't want to look goofy wearing a face shield, knowing damn well it's not helping prevent aerosols from rolling out from under an open face shield.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead] 4
#27085443 - 12/12/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, you're right, face masks look really goofy, ventilators look cool and feel great though, maybe get intubated for extra pleasure
don't be on the fence, just stay away from your 'friends', friends protect each other, but go ahead and really 'make that stand'
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: masspan]
#27085458 - 12/12/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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masspan said: yeah, you're right, face masks look really goofy, ventilators look cool and feel great though, maybe get intubated for extra pleasure
don't be on the fence, just stay away from your 'friends', friends protect each other, but go ahead and really 'make that stand'
Did I say face mask look goofy? No, I said face shield.
And they are allowed.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead]
#27085468 - 12/12/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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do you honestly care what it 'looks like'?
gah, you got me breaking my own rule about not engaging you, but since you got me
seriously, if you had to name one thing, what is you're biggest problem with taking precautions, like wearing face protection? what is so unthinkably oppressive about doing something so simple? is there any objective reason or is it all 'feelings' about perceived oppression?
because there are millions of people all over the world who are begging to know, maybe dead voters
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: masspan]
#27085514 - 12/12/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some people, not myself having grown out my very first beard and not getting a haircut since April 2018, care about their looks.
I saw an ad for these mini mask.
Thoughts?
I have an issue with how science is being portrayed and outright being ignored on some occasions.
That is my biggest issue with how we have been sold on mask and aerosols, science is obvious when I can use a vape and visually see vape roll out from under or around a cloth face mask. Sure, something in the way to block velocity may help a droplet from landing on the face of whoever is being talked to, which is why I support symptomatic people wear something to block their spit, but that doesn't say much about the ultrafine aerosols in which hundreds on viruses are able to be suspended in that never fall and are constantly being blown around with the slightest air movement.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead]
#27085539 - 12/12/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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so if i am understanding you, you are saying that because we don't have iron clad proof that face coverings work 100% of the time, people should do nothing at all or it should be optional?
isn't it because we do not know everything about this virus that any precaution people take is worthwhile?
i think those tiny masks look strange, but it really is a non-issue to me. if someone is too vain to protect their health and the ones around them, their looks are not going to change my opinion of them in the slightest
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead] 3
#27085589 - 12/12/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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HamHead said: Some people care about their looks.
That is my biggest issue with how we have been sold on mask and aerosols, science is obvious when I can use a vape and visually see vape roll out from under or around a cloth face mask. Sure, something in the way to block velocity may help a droplet from landing on the face of whoever is being talked to, which is why I support symptomatic people wear something to block their spit, but that doesn't say much about the ultrafine aerosols in which hundreds on viruses are able to be suspended in that never fall and are constantly being blown around with the slightest air movement.
Yeah, because anyone should be worried about how it looks to save lives... you know what's a good look? This...

Nobody claims masks prevent all transmissions of the virus, but they do help reduce the spread of infection and that seems pretty obvious to anyone that isn't so entrenched in their own self-righteous indignation that they would rather put lives at risk than accept recommendations from the scientific community without feeling like someone was merely trying to trample on "our rights"
Hamhead, it seems clear that you don't know anyone who's died of this shit yet. The father of a good friend of my kid's died of it right before Thanksgiving leaving behind a wife and kids at home that still needed a provider. We know people that spent a month on a vent and several more weeks in the hospital who almost died. My wife, son, and myself all had it, and even though none of us had to go to the hospital, it was fucking horrible.
To watch people like you act so fuckin stupid about this, is a serious insult to everyone that's had it, died from it, works to treat those with it, and everyone involved in trying to reduce the impact on our world from it.
Hate to say it but the only way that you and others like you will EVER change their mind about this is by watching someone near and dear to your heart have a prolonged and serious period of suffering before passing away in solitude. I guess if that's what it takes, then so be it
Seriously hamhead, go fuck yourself you stupid self-centered prick
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: masspan]
#27085599 - 12/12/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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masspan said: so if i am understanding you, you are saying that because we don't have iron clad proof that face coverings work 100% of the time, people should do nothing at all or it should be optional?
Optional. Why are neck gators allowed? It has been proven they aerosolize large particles, defeating the purpose of a face covering.
isn't it because we do not know everything about this virus that any precaution people take is worthwhile?
Respiratory diseases are not new and there is a lot of science on upper respiratory diseases. Much of it has been brushed aside due to language. 'Novel' was used to justify many proven treatments to be disregarded, some of which are being reevaluated like corticosteroids, having been mentioned in March by Rand Paul but thanks to Fauci, it wasn't considered to be helpful.
i think those tiny masks look strange, but it really is a non-issue to me. if someone is too vain to protect their health and the ones around them, their looks are not going to change my opinion of them in the slightest
Yes. People should be responsible for their own health. If we all were to be more conscious of our health, diseases would be less prevalent due to a greater understanding of personal health and lifestyle choices.
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Seriously hamhead, go fuck yourself you stupid self-centered prick
My mom was really sick late December 2019. She said it was the worst she had ever been sick, she's 64. Missed a week of work. She could have died then, and it wouldn't have been labeled a Covid death.
Science shows, there in my sig, Coronavirus 19 was circulating well before it was first discovered. Why was there not a massive spike in deaths until AFTER national stay at home orders put forth in MARCH, if there are antibodies in blood samples from December 2019?
Stress kills.
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Stallion, I understand your pain and frustration and way too many people do also, but noone ever changed their minds in a positive way by being attacked
Ham, he is right though that because you haven't experienced this first hand is no excuse to dismiss it, this is not politics, this is biology/science/reality, but it is not politics. Trump made it political because he was on his way to losing, and that's a terrible reason to risk people's lives
I have said some dumb and hurtful things online and in person to others that i wish i could take back buat i can't. On this site i have had to go back and delete things i was about to post because i asked myself whether my response would have the reaction i 'would like to see', and just about everytime i realized my emotions would fall on deaf ears to 99.99% of the population
there's a fine line between baiting and biting, and as co-inhabitants on this planet, we all need to take care of each other better than this
edit: saw your last post about your mother and glad she is ok, but then i have to ask how you could not possibly treat this as seriously as it is. what does your mother think about COVID? did she take it seriously before she got sick? does she know where she got it? does she do anything differently now?
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead] 2
#27085628 - 12/12/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well it's too bad things didn't go differently for her
The fact that you still feel the way you do tells me you are a lost cause
These things have been explained to you time and time again and I'm not going to bother with you.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: masspan] 3
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Hamhead has had it explained in a decent way over and over. It's offensive and he is too dug in so there is no reason to bother holding back being shitty over it.
Nearly everyone I know has turned into a completely self centered asshole and I'm done holding back on people that are this short sighted
fuck em all, I regret nothing I say or do
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i don't disagree that Ham's beliefs on this are backward and incorrect, not one single bit, and as Americans we are allowed to say what is on our mind's, for the most part
most people are who they are by some early age, folks on this site are mostly who they will be for the rest of their lives, most will never change, some will, we all die in the end (and no, Ham, this is not an endorsement of what you said about cultures celebrating death)
most people are suffering in some way or another right now, some more than others, except for evil people, for whom suffering is the goal and the endgame. i chose to believe that most people are not truly evil just misguided, and the only way i can help is to spread as much love as much as i can whenever i can
so, i love you all
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TheStallionMang said: Well it's too bad things didn't go differently for her
The fact that you still feel the way you do tells me you are a lost cause
These things have been explained to you time and time again and I'm not going to bother with you.
Thanks man, it is too bad. My mom suffers and had she died, she would be free of suffering. And because I am aware that death waits for us all, I would have been happy for her to have been released from her meat suit. She has attempted to take her own life, a few of those times I have witnessed, having to call paramedics after watching her swallow a handful of unknown pills. Or, that time I walked in on my mother kneeling over my stepdads bed, where he keeps a .357 mag, taking the gun from my mothers hands, walking out and firing off the round that could have killed my mother into the woods. Or, when I was 7 and I heard my mom asking my stepdad if "this thing is loaded".
My mom is 100% on my side. She sees what is going on with the left and has been aware of Agenda 21, Event 201 and now the great reset, for years. She is aware of the lies being propagated through mainstream media propaganda and is very afraid of what is coming to this country.
So, keep on insulting me and my family, it may let off some steam but it's not helping in the least bit.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead]
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: HamHead] 2
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Ham, i am sorry to say this, but it does not sound like your mother modelled the best behaviour for you
I will say that you are the captain of your own ship now though, personal responsibility is a serious thing and people are accountable for their own actions, while at the same time we co-exist and must consider the well-being of others
There are people that would say 'i' am 'fucking stupid' for this is that reason, but something i would never do is willfully ignore guidance on ways to keep people safe, never
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: masspan]
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masspan said: edit: saw your last post about your mother and glad she is ok, but then i have to ask how you could not possibly treat this as seriously as it is. what does your mother think about COVID? did she take it seriously before she got sick? does she know where she got it? does she do anything differently now?
My mom thinks Covid is a hoax. I made her aware when I learned about it in January, telling her to stock up on mask and going over safety precautions, and we took it seriously. I remember both of us not wanting to hug because of fear. Then, my dad sent me a video of John Ioannidis that changed my perspectives.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlGSlkijht5jFHF2o8rIhiOPHNT1OzyWE
Covid wasn't a thing when she was sick. There was no stigma or fear, so she did what she had always done when she was sick. She stayed home and took care of herself. She said she was walking into work one cold day and took a breath in and felt something was off.
As far as doing things differently, not really. She wears a mask because she has to, not because she chooses to. She takes extra vitamin C that I give to her in ascorbic acid form.
I am grateful that my mom and I get along and agree on covid 19. There is no fear or stigma around covid.
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