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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27079669 - 12/08/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I was just looking at the actual case Texas submitted to SCOTUS. I'm no lawyer, but it looks hilariously pathetic to me.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf

Tennessee has decided they want to get in on this action as well.



I haven't heard about Tennessee yet, but that would make it 10 states:

1) Texas
2) Louisiana
3) Arkansas
4) Alabama
5) Florida
6) Kentucky
7) Mississippi
8) South Carolina
9) South Dakota
10) Tenessee


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27079671 - 12/08/20 10:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

None of those states went for Biden.  Coincidence?

Without Article III standing, it doesn't matter anyway.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Enlil]
    #27079677 - 12/08/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Of course not.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #27079705 - 12/08/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I was just looking at the actual case Texas submitted to SCOTUS. I'm no lawyer, but it looks hilariously pathetic to me.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf

Tennessee has decided they want to get in on this action as well.




The Texas AG could use a pardon. This is how he gets trump’s attention.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: koods]
    #27079728 - 12/08/20 11:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Seems like there are a lot of Republicans looking for pardons.

Since they're already up there, he should just smuggle them out of the country in his ass.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: christopera]
    #27080767 - 12/09/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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It’s not over yet.



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Oh, ok then.



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How about now?




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Maybe by January 20, 2025.




Maybe by then eh?


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: imachavel] * 2
    #27080797 - 12/09/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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christopera said:
It’s not over yet.



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Oh, ok then.



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christopera said:
How about now?




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Maybe by January 20, 2025.




Maybe by then eh?




Sometime after the Snivel War, prolly.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27083243 - 12/10/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I doubt there will be political violence until Biden is actually sworn in. The kind of MAGAtard that's gonna start shooting is the kind of MAGAtard that believes this is all part of Trump's secret plot to arrest all the pedophiles and democrats and execute them on live TV. The violent MAGAtard currently believes that Trump is fully in control and that he will be sworn into office for a second term after some crazy legalese.

Once reality sinks in, that's when the violence starts.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Kryptos]
    #27083319 - 12/11/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Is threatening people with bodily harm violence?  I believe the courts have ruled it is, thus there has been much violence since the elections.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Ice9]
    #27083563 - 12/11/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

No, words are not violence.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Enlil]
    #27083742 - 12/11/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know about that. Seems to me that a "true threat" can be prosecuted as assault, which is a violent crime.

Of course, while the concept of "true threat" has been around since Vietnam, I don't think it's been very well defined since then, apart from the Watts factors (which are...vague).


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Kryptos]
    #27083750 - 12/11/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't know about that.



Clearly.  I do, however.  Words are not violence.  In no state do words alone constitute assault.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Kryptos]
    #27083844 - 12/11/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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What Are Some Examples of When Acts and Circumstances Constitute Assault?

The speaker’s actions and the circumstances surrounding an incident are crucial when determining whether or not an assault occurred.

For example, suppose two patrons are having an intense argument while drinking at a sports bar. One of them tells the other they are going to throw them off the roof for insulting their team. If the bar is located on the ground floor and both patrons are sitting on stools inside the bar, then this likely will not constitute assault. However, if they were standing on the roof of the bar during the argument, then this would be considered assault.

Continuing with the above example, suppose that instead of threatening to throw them off the roof, one of the patrons said they were going to smash their beer over the other patron’s head and said it while they were brandishing their glass in a threatening manner. The additional action of waving their glass would constitute assault.

As a final example, now suppose the two bar patrons are friends. One of the friends turns to the other and says they are going to kill them, but smiles or laughs after making the statement. Even though they threatened to kill them, their relationship and lack of intimidation in this scenario makes it less likely that their actions would qualify as assault.




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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27083848 - 12/11/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Your quote confirms what I said:  Words alone never constitute assault.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Enlil]
    #27083936 - 12/11/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Is a "true threat" not a crime, though?


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27083938 - 12/11/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

A criminal threat can be a crime, sure.  Whether it's violence is another question, though.

The "true threat" doctrine isn't really what defines a crime, though.  It's just a way of determining whether a particular threat is constitutionally protected speech or not.  If it's protected, it can't be a crime. If it isn't protected, however, that doesn't necessarily make it a crime.  State statutes determine what is and isn't a crime.


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Enlil]
    #27084503 - 12/11/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

SCOTUS punted Texas out on its ass. MAGA losers are freaking out.:rofl2:


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27084587 - 12/11/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I mean, if they didn't, I'd have precedent to sue everyone for disenfranchising me by not electing Bernie, and Bernie would be president...


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Kryptos]
    #27084658 - 12/11/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

States could sue other states for gerrymandering and vote suppression!

I just hope the civil war holds off until I get my tactical fannypack!


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Re: The Lack of any Real Violence Following the Election [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27084932 - 12/12/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

MAGAs marching in the street tonight in DC.



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