Home | Community | Message Board

Avalon Magic Plants
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Capsules   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Amanita Muscaria Store Amanita Extract   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]
OfflineMentalPariah
Pariah of my mind


Registered: 03/18/18
Posts: 3,903
Last seen: 1 month, 13 days
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: shroower] * 1
    #27082911 - 12/10/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Now the people downplaying that and thinking they are able to ID dry mushrooms in a jar behind other mushrooms and talking about food poisoning in this case, yea, I don't give a fuck about their reputation.




Well at least its mutual, you don't give a fuck about our reputations and we don't give a fuck about your opinions. It seems your reaction to all this is based in emotions and not facts, and thats ok. Whats not ok is agressivly virtue signaling.... we get it, youre the only one that cares and therefore everyone else is wrong...right?
I've provided you more than one source that sites galerina marginata as being not as deadly as everyone believes. As said before it takes 10-20 whole fruits to cause death in an adult. Its not that we don't care or we don't worry OP has been accidentally poisoned, its just the evidence we can see with our eyes all point to him having psilocybe cyanescens or allenii. He would very likely be fine aside from slight GI upset if he had consumed one or 2 gallerina. Now if he would have posted a clutch of them and been like "guys i ate all of these" that would have been a different situation. We aren't idiots, hell some of us have knowledge on par with some of the best mycologists on this board and some of us enjoy this as a legitimate hobby. Ultimately if OP had truly believed he was poisoned he should have hauled ass to the hospital because the window for treatment is very very small.



http://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/s2013/fleischa_kali/toxin.htm

https://wpamushroomclub.org/education/mushroom-toxicity/

https://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~biodiv/mushroom/G_marginata.html


--------------------
Whoever appeals to the law against his
Fellow man is either a fool or a coward
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant
If I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven
Such is the rule of honor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTyperwritermonky
shboop a doop a doop


Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 5,375
Loc: Mrs. Brown's Teahouse
Last seen: 7 days, 16 hours
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: MentalPariah]
    #27082918 - 12/10/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah exactly what I was trying to say.  If you ate 2-4 galerinas it aint gon kill ya, not good, but wont kill you.  So unless this dude took like 4g of these cyans and some were galerinas, he'd still be ok.  But if he ate an eighth of them and they were half galerinas, well maybe be quite careful because an eighth can easily be 12+ small mushrooms. 

And if he did eat an eighth or so and like 5-6 of those were galerinas, well he wont die, but the kidney and liver damage would probably be awful.

Regardless, it goes to show you OP that unless you feel confident yourself, which you clearly don't, make sure to post a thread.  With photos of all the mushrooms spore printed, and numbered on a piece of paper for total and proper ID.


Edited by Typerwritermonky (12/10/20 08:05 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSaeurcybe
Hunter
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 132
Loc: WA Flag
Last seen: 8 months, 29 days
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27082930 - 12/10/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know where you people get off saying that as long as it doesn't kill you you are fine.


--------------------
Do u want. To have. A tasty. Mushroom?

Gotta catch 'em all (WA):

Common:
Gymnopilus junonius | Gymnopilus luteofolius | Panaeolus cinctulus | Psilocybe azurescens | Psilocybe cyanescens | Psilocybe pelliculosa | Psilocybe stuntzii | Psilocybe semilanceata

Uncommon:
Gymnopilus aeruginosus | Psilocybe baeocystis | Panaeolus bispora | Panaeolus olivaceus | Psilocybe allenii | Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata | Psilocybe silvatica | Psilocybe strictipes


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleshroower
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 06/10/06
Posts: 518
Loc: Europe
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: Nitro87]
    #27082932 - 12/10/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Nitro87 said:
Damn dude, do you even read?  I said what can be seen.




Apparently you can't read your own post, so go back to it and see if you find the word "seen" on it.

Quote:

Facts:  all you can ID from the OP is psilocybe, false:  no proof/ pic has been provided to assume the worst....




If the fact that more than half of the mushrooms presented to by mcasa are unidentifiable is not enough reason to assume the worst and advise the person to seek medical attention if said person comes to this forum saying he might have eaten a Galerina then I really shouldn't be wasting my time on this response.

I'm absolutely glad that he is ok for now and I hope that continues to be the case.

My whole point in this whole thread was: you cannot reliably identify what the OP ate so the least you can do is not try to comfort him into the delusion that he'll be alright because everything else on the pictures look fine. The only responsible thing to say is what Sauercybe just mentioned which is YES, he could've eaten something poisonous based on the total information he provided.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleNitro87
Living the Dream
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/08/20
Posts: 1,967
Loc: The Clouds
Trusted Identifier
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: shroower]
    #27082945 - 12/10/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I guess the parentheses wasn’t good enough.  It’s called present tense while I was typing,  “seen” is past tense so yeah, didn’t say “seen” to be technical, but clearly (can see) is there in parentheses just for people that can’t skim read....

Edit-  this guy isn’t worth anyone’s time. I guess You are the only one that doesn’t want people to die 👏👏👏


--------------------
Life is worth living



Edited by Nitro87 (12/10/20 08:25 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleshroower
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 06/10/06
Posts: 518
Loc: Europe
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: MentalPariah] * 1
    #27082948 - 12/10/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Well at least its mutual, you don't give a fuck about our reputations and we don't give a fuck about your opinions.hell some of us have knowledge on par with some of the best mycologists on this board and some of us enjoy this as a legitimate hobby.




Well at least I have an opinion, but you certainly don't have a reputation.

I've seen you confidently calling wrong species several times here or just throwing generic stuff in the ID forum, probably craving to get a TI tag under your name to feel relevant.
If you think your knowledge of mushrooms is on par with any serious mycologist you're plain delusional.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMentalPariah
Pariah of my mind


Registered: 03/18/18
Posts: 3,903
Last seen: 1 month, 13 days
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: shroower]
    #27083043 - 12/10/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

shroower said:
Quote:

Well at least its mutual, you don't give a fuck about our reputations and we don't give a fuck about your opinions.hell some of us have knowledge on par with some of the best mycologists on this board and some of us enjoy this as a legitimate hobby.




Well at least I have an opinion, but you certainly don't have a reputation.

I've seen you confidently calling wrong species several times here or just throwing generic stuff in the ID forum, probably craving to get a TI tag under your name to feel relevant.
If you think your knowledge of mushrooms is on par with any serious mycologist you're plain delusional.




Nope, never said I was one of those on par with them and I could care less about having a TI tag. Yup I've made mistakes, been corrected, and learned from those mistakes. I know where I stand on this forum and you're being a belligerent asshole. Arguing with you is a fruitless endeavor that im not going to waste anymore time on. This went from a discussion to straight up personal attacks from you which completely diluted this thread with needless banter and bullshit. Dude, whatever is eating you alive inside to the point of needing to feel important on a website by throwing a tantrum I sincerely hope you come to terms with that and find some peace.

OP im glad you're OK and I hope this scare doesn't push you away from psychs. Just be a little more cognizant of what you're picking and consuming in the future.


--------------------
Whoever appeals to the law against his
Fellow man is either a fool or a coward
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant
If I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven
Such is the rule of honor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSaeurcybe
Hunter
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 132
Loc: WA Flag
Last seen: 8 months, 29 days
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: MentalPariah]
    #27083082 - 12/10/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

op you wont be needing that jar anymore. i can dispose of it for you


--------------------
Do u want. To have. A tasty. Mushroom?

Gotta catch 'em all (WA):

Common:
Gymnopilus junonius | Gymnopilus luteofolius | Panaeolus cinctulus | Psilocybe azurescens | Psilocybe cyanescens | Psilocybe pelliculosa | Psilocybe stuntzii | Psilocybe semilanceata

Uncommon:
Gymnopilus aeruginosus | Psilocybe baeocystis | Panaeolus bispora | Panaeolus olivaceus | Psilocybe allenii | Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata | Psilocybe silvatica | Psilocybe strictipes


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHAKR ELITE
"Sure. Mushrooms Friends."


Registered: 08/18/18
Posts: 1,143
Loc: Under The Gills...
Last seen: 20 days, 7 hours
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: MentalPariah]
    #27083135 - 12/10/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Oook...Mental



--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineraffib128
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/05/20
Posts: 299
Loc: Vermont
Last seen: 3 days, 1 hour
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: HAKR ELITE] * 1
    #27083407 - 12/11/20 03:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've been following this post and here's my two cents:

If you can't spell Galerina correctly, you probably shouldn't be picking little brown mushrooms. I don't mean to be rude, but the misspelling would seem to indicate a lack of respect and/or understanding for the dangers of foraging.

Maybe you'd be ok if you consumed a couple, but who knows what long-term damage you would cause.

Remember to 100% identify every mushroom you plan on consuming, especially if you're hoarding them together.

This is my first year really getting into foraging mushrooms, and I accidentally ate a Hemileccinum subglabripes assuming is was a Boletus auripes. Safe mistake for me fortunately, but it really woke me up to the idea that what I am doing is dangerous, and that danger stems from ignorance.


--------------------
Same username on Inaturalist.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCHUCK.HNTR
feral urbanite
Male


Registered: 09/30/19
Posts: 2,279
Loc: SF, CA, USA
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: raffib128]
    #27083606 - 12/11/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

raffib128 said:[

If you can't spell Galerina correctly, you probably shouldn't be picking little brown mushrooms. I don't mean to be rude, but the misspelling would seem to indicate a lack of respect and/or understanding for the dangers of foraging.
.




Wut? This thread has really tanked now we comparing spelling to visual knowledge and respect? How do these equate at all?


--------------------
"What is the practical application of a million universes?" -Alan Watts
:mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineraffib128
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/05/20
Posts: 299
Loc: Vermont
Last seen: 3 days, 1 hour
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27084137 - 12/11/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm saying if you can't learn enough about Galerina to even spell it right, it may indicate a lack of seriousness in trying to understand potential dangers to your hobby. Perhaps you are right, Chuck; maybe I'm making too big a leap there.


Maybe I'm just a stickler for spelling. :P

Either way, I'm glad to have learned more about a scary lbm. Thanks to everyone who shared info!


--------------------
Same username on Inaturalist.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTyperwritermonky
shboop a doop a doop


Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 5,375
Loc: Mrs. Brown's Teahouse
Last seen: 7 days, 16 hours
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27084202 - 12/11/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

CHUCK.HNTR said:
Quote:

raffib128 said:[

If you can't spell Galerina correctly, you probably shouldn't be picking little brown mushrooms. I don't mean to be rude, but the misspelling would seem to indicate a lack of respect and/or understanding for the dangers of foraging.
.




Wut? This thread has really tanked now we comparing spelling to visual knowledge and respect? How do these equate at all?




I was about to say dude.. that's a false equivalency/straw man if I've ever seen one.  CHUK HUNT I agree with you.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleIcyurmt
Strange
 Unread Journal


Registered: 04/02/20
Posts: 1,628
Loc: 5a
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: raffib128] * 1
    #27084239 - 12/11/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

raffib128 said:
I'm saying if you can't learn enough about Galerina to even spell it right, it may indicate a lack of seriousness in trying to understand potential dangers to your hobby. Perhaps you are right, Chuck; maybe I'm making too big a leap there.


Maybe I'm just a stickler for spelling. :P





Language based learning disabilities are present in approximately 20% of the population.. Not being able to spell correctly isn’t usually a sign of lack of effort or seriousness but rather a simple lack of ability to spell well. Without dictation software and copy and paste for words that it doesn’t pick up, it would be difficult for most people to understand any of my spelling or writing even though I attended an Ivy League college..


--------------------
👁️ 🌊 why you are empty.

Hunt for the habitat not the mushroom.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDoc9151M
Mycologist
Male User Gallery


Registered: 02/23/17
Posts: 13,753
Loc: Gulf Coast USA Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 6 months
Trusted Identifier
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: Icyurmt]
    #27084363 - 12/11/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Shroower, You are leaving out that we all have demonstrated that we have demonstrated a certain level of proficiency in order to be tagged as a Trusted identifier or cultivator. If at any point,  any one of us suspected that the poster was at risk, we would have made it clear that medical treatment should be sought out immediately.

Now,  there are some mushrooms that will make you so sick from a single mouthful that you think you're dying, Chlorophyllum  molybdites has very powerful gastrointestinal irritants that can make you vomit blood and produce bloody diarrhea, but when it comes to deadly poisonings from mushrooms, it takes several grams to be fatal. I totally understand your concerns and the point you are trying to make, but you also must consider our experience, especially as a whole. If other Trusted identifiers had doubts. I too would have been concerned, but when we all agree and there are several Trusted identifiers chiming in then you can feel confident that it is ok.


--------------------


Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineraffib128
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/05/20
Posts: 299
Loc: Vermont
Last seen: 3 days, 1 hour
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: Icyurmt]
    #27084998 - 12/12/20 03:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

"Not being able to spell correctly isn’t usually a sign of lack of effort or seriousness but rather a simple lack of ability to spell well."

Thanks for using spell check though, Icyurmt - your posts are very clear and articulate. No lack of effort from you; and it is appreciated.

I don't know how to spell a lot of the scientific names, even if I was just reading about them, so I try to remember to double check my spelling. It's also in the forum rules ("It is important to describe your mushrooms as accurately as possible").

Proper spelling is also useful for the people on the forum who don't speak English as a first language. Spell-checking and reviewing your post before posting is a courtesy to the community here.

Just some thoughts. I know people with dyslexia and I know how frustrating it can be for them. Spelling has nothing to do with how intelligent one is, although it can feel that way to those that suffer from it.


--------------------
Same username on Inaturalist.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTempestDnB
Lost but found.
I'm a teapot


Registered: 02/17/12
Posts: 3,224
Loc: SoundCloud Flag
Last seen: 14 hours, 22 minutes
Re: Worried I picked Gallerinas and ate them. please ID [Re: donjonson420]
    #27085148 - 12/12/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

donjonson420 said:
I can't speak to everything you may have picked and consumed but what's shown in the photos is generally consistent with what I would expect for P. cyanescens. One thing I have personally noticed with prolonged microdosing of 1 00 capsule daily of dried wild P. ovoideocystidiata usually after 2-3 months is general GI discomfort, weird chills/sweats and random sharp stomache pains.  I used to chalk this up to something bacterial in the wild fruits.  My latest theory is a build up of chitin a form of insoluble 'fiber' found in fungi, in the digestive tract overtime that ends up fermenting in a way to lead to this discomfort. Chitin-bearing foods are known to cause alimentary allergies, and chitin can induce and modulate immune reactions. Usually cooking mushrooms helps break down chitin but since we are drying wild fruits we are consuming chitin in it's raw form.  Everytime I stop microdosing the symptoms subside within a few days.



It could also be the fact that for a long period of time you were consuming something that's interacting with the serotonin receptors in your gut.


--------------------

“How happy is the blameless vestal’s lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind! Each pray’r accepted, and each wish resign’d”


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]

Shop: Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Capsules   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Amanita Muscaria Store Amanita Extract   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Spots To Pick In Western/Lower Mainland BC?Summer Raven_420 4,880 5 04/27/02 08:20 AM
by mjshroomer
* Unable to get a positive ID, please help psylo 1,282 5 02/14/02 09:22 PM
by OJ
* australian id? vic creekside pics dinie 2,762 11 04/30/02 02:07 PM
by shaggymane
* Deadly gallerina?? FungusmaximusFM 3,835 16 06/09/03 12:53 AM
by blaze2
* UGH! Fuck Gallerinas!!! hoopershroomer 2,867 16 10/04/07 11:10 AM
by El Zorro
* ID please+Pics+Deal Pan Subbs MAIA 1,879 7 10/07/01 10:35 AM
by MAIA
* ga i.d. request sry im bad at the keys 6The6Despised6One 333 11 12/13/20 08:14 PM
by 6The6Despised6One
* Mushroom ID - Melbourne Austalia +Pictures
( 1 2 all )
acidis 12,333 25 06/08/02 04:00 PM
by geko127

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: ToxicMan, inski, Alan Rockefeller, Duggstar, TimmiT, Anglerfish, Tmethyl, Lucis, Doc9151, Land Trout
2,076 topic views. 1 members, 19 guests and 8 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 13 queries.