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Sketchy Eco Earth PSA
    #27084195 - 12/11/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I break up my Eco Earth bricks before hydrating them and the other day when I was prepping some substrate I found a glass shard a couple inches long and wide.  Then a few days before that I found a long rusty nail in another brick of Eco Earth.

Please be careful when prepping your substrates with these cheap ass dusty ass bricks of coir.  I'm fortunate I didn't slice or stab myself.

Ended up switching to loose, dry-sifted "100% coir" from the hydroponic store cuz this shit is ridiculous.

Forgot to take photos of the sketchy bricks at the time, sorry..  Please be safe everyone :sun:


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Psicomb]
    #27084203 - 12/11/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Dude that sucks, take care


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Shroombitz]
    #27084233 - 12/11/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I found a rusty piece of metal in a brick of eco earth once. Never glass but yea be careful, if I had reptiles I would look through it carefully before they would get it. But its a ag product and shit gets into some of it, no different than bugs in your cornflakes lol.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: MH5109]
    #27084334 - 12/11/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

CannaCoir from a grow shop has been nothing but consistent if you have one near you. So much cheaper than buying eco earth too.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: pureshrooming]
    #27084372 - 12/11/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I have found pretty large chunks of rusty pointy metal before, wasn't a nail but still..

Having been working with a different brand of coir lately and I notice eco earth expands like shit these days too. 10 years ago it expanded to a much larger volume. I use beats peat brand these days and 625 grams of it will expand to a larger volume than 700 grams of eco earth. It holds way more water too, which is obviously good for our purposes.

I definitely think people should explore alternative sources of coir. Eco earth is decent if you have nothing else but visiting a hydroponic shop or checking online if you can find something cheaper or around the same price may benefit your grows.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #27084494 - 12/11/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck pet bricks, I’m thinking bout buying stock in canna coir these days


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27084547 - 12/11/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hate Eco Earth, it's like 20% sand, barely holds water. I'm hooked on Plantonix.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Tstone]
    #27084583 - 12/11/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Never had any problems with Eco Earth I just get it because it's available locally. Might give that Canna a shot. Beats Peat is shit, so fibrous and nothing but problems with it.

I swear my theory about different cultivars of coconuts has got to be correct that mold resistance is tied to which cultivar your pith came from. Coconut cultivars in India ain't the same as Thailand ain't the same as other places. King Coconut v.s. other vars etc. Guaranteed much like variety in apples some vars have less of the antifungal oils in em or whatever.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Tstone]
    #27084590 - 12/11/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I just got some cannacoir, I am also sick of the amount of sand that is mixed in the eco earth bricks. Hopefully this will be coir and no other mystery mixed in.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: MH5109]
    #27084764 - 12/11/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I use some stuff called "Cyco" (lol in my head I say "psYCHO!!" like a bad ass mental patient every time I read the label).  I am not in my element trying to hydrate loose coir;  650g loose doesn't take the same water as 650g brick.!  Oh well, this is fun figuring it out and finally using some clean ass coir :sun:

And yeah fuck all that sand!!!


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Psicomb]
    #27084810 - 12/11/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'ts about 5k USD to get a full truck container from any number of coir suppliers. There are hundreds of coir suppliers worldwide. Back when I was into the hydroponics industry I looked into getting bulk delivered like that.

A dollar a brick (the big square ones) for a truckload...


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Nichrome]
    #27084818 - 12/11/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I use roots organic brand hydro coir, it costs 8.50 after taxes where I'm at for a 5kg block
which, for me and my methods, makes 8 monotubs so it comes out to basically a buck per tub.

Been thinkin of getting a bulk order from them have space to store it now :lol:


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27084834 - 12/11/20 11:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Roots is good. I use a lot of canna cause they sell it close by and it is good quality and cheap.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Nichrome] * 1
    #27084883 - 12/12/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I like coco gro by Botanicare but it seems it's a thing of the past suddenly. Canna coir is damn nice, they publicly traded?


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Failboat]
    #27084922 - 12/12/20 01:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, Psilo, I feel ya. I just started using a 5kg brick of CocoTek a buddy gave me...and holy shit
the difference in quality compared to Eco and the other pet store stuff. I'm not growing at
a scale where I need to cut costs on coir so I don't think I am ever going back to the cheap stuff.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Asura]
    #27085212 - 12/12/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Also found my yields increased by 20% after ditching Eco Earth, with the sand, holds minimum water, and in general  the myc doesn't like it that much, think it's too compacted with the sand. It just sucks, and when you start working with coir meant for growing, you'll notice a huge quality difference, and you'll never use reptile coir again,lol.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: Tstone]
    #27092918 - 12/16/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Love Plantonix.. Just ordered 50 more bricks


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: sacredgeomancer]
    #27093065 - 12/16/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I use Exo Terra Plantation Soil. Its about $4 to $5 online for 3 bricks. Few small rock is all I found.


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: TheBoJim]
    #27094844 - 12/17/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Love Plantonix. Coupon code BAG20 @ www.bagicho.com for 20% off, i'm not affiliated with them in any way, i just want to save people some cash!


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Re: Sketchy Eco Earth [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #27094895 - 12/17/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Grow!t Is heat sterilized. No bucket tek needed, just add cold water to hydrate..




Eco earth..



Grow!t..



10 lb. block:

https://www.greenhousemegastore.com/supplies/soil-and-soil-amendments/grow-it-organic-coco-planting-mix


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