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Blazer Man
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Aborts
#27083547 - 12/11/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey Hombres, Long story short. Fruiting Conditions were not exemplary, I changed that last week and already had two more cakes start to pin so I think the new SGFC is working nicely. SWEET! Question: Before I changed it I had 2 cakes start to pin and actually grew some fruits that are maybe a half inch to an inch long. Will those fruits continue to grow (if my assumption that the SGFC is in fact working) or since they aborted are they done? I tried searching this and only topics on abortions would come up. I don't currently care about procreation other than my cubes.. HAHA
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No one can k ow the state of your substrates or your fruiting conditions unless you post pics of both of those. You could try your best to describe the looks of it and even after several pages I wouldn't understand what's going on with your grow until I see it for myself. Gl
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Re: Aborts [Re: Mateja]
#27083736 - 12/11/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ask and you shall receive.
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I actually think I answered my own question. I made a proper SGFC and put the proper amount of perlite in. In 24 hrs my cakes have exploded! The mushies in the pic are growing again by the hour. They are bigger than they were a mere 6 hours ago. I think I saved this grow and will now attest that a SGFC is by far the easiest method I have personal experience with. I was also freaked that my RH is at 63%. That is not a big deal at all. I read an old Bodhista post and it was spot on to what was happening in my grow. The only complaint I have with shroomery is a lot of posts suggest bad teks or mods (not because people are dumb, just because the teks change from year to year). Lots of old info that can really put a noob in a rabbit hole.
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Mateja


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Doesn't look like a catastrophe but categorically the 'preferable micro climate' on the cakes surface is kind of nonexistent. Only spot where pins have formed is in those tiny humid pockets inbetween the base/foot of the substrate and the thing it's standing on. The rest of your cakes surface resembles the typical SGFC cakes imo, where substrates appear soaked on the surface verm layer due to excessive misting but benieth the verm is unmistakably the signs of damaged/matted (possibly suffering too fast evaporation rates? I'm not totally sure if damaged and bruising myc is because of drying out and/or because of excessive misting)
Think about it this way, pins forming is basically fresh mycelium growing. So if you typically do not see any new mycelium being formed around the verm layer at least in isolated spots then that means that environment isn't suitable for growing pins either. You don't happen to have a hygrometer just to check the ambient humidity in your growing area/room. I have a very humid fruiting chamber but right now I can seem to generate over 66% RH inside the tubs even with the lids fully closed shut the ambient RH in the growing area is 17%. I'm just saying that if you're experiencing very dry growing conditions as well at that your also growing in a FC that doesn't have adjustable FAE so basically you're not left with much of a fighting chance IMHO.
Remember! The preferable environment that's required for fruiting can not simply be created by constantly pouring water on the substrates. All substrates require more or less 'reasonable' rates of FAE, obviously a medium-large size bulk substrate won't be affected much if at all by elevated FAE rates but a miniature 1/2 pint substrate will of course be extremely volunerable to dry conditions and they do react fast and dramatically when exposed to harsh climate even for just a few moments. SGFC can work experienced growers that understand and know how to create surface conditions and manage FAE just by spraying, and to be able to react fast and correct the environment quickly before it starts to cause stress for myc. But for a new grower to have all the accumulated knowledge to know exactly when to mist and how much every single time it just isn't reasonable to assume imo. I'll try making a writeup later, and if I manage I'll post it here so you can at least know how to 'reset' a myc surface that's been damaged beyond what's acceptable. I'll come back here later well talk more. In the meantime keep your hopes up, this is the future and not 25ya, I'm sure there's a method out there that's tailored to growing BRF cakes withh8gh success rate and barely any maintenence at all gl
Edit: and congratulations on having fruits
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Re: Aborts [Re: Mateja]
#27083930 - 12/11/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some Dude, Thanks for the post. I will keep an eye on these cakes and see what the fruits do. I am currently dunking 5 additional cakes that fruited and were harvested. I will roll them tonight and put back in the FC. Now that I made a proper SGFC if may affect the appearance and performance of the 5 additional cakes. I understand your post, but the biggest take away is time will tell. If the 6 cakes I have in there continue to grow pins and they become fruit, I will be happy. This go round is my first successful grow. As long as I am seeing progress I can research and make changes. It is super hard when there is no progress and nothing one does works. Thank God I am past that stage of learning.
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