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Psion
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#27079522 - 12/08/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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we're not arguing over the unfairness of it. we're just pointing out that you shouldn't get mad at the people taking advantage of it, because A) they are getting a lucky break for the first time in a very, VERY, long time b) they had absolutely no control over the situation or the fairness of it all and c) it's better for everyone involved that they stay home and are infecting less people, spreading the disease less than it is for them to continue working. and ironically, earning more cash than they normally would, leading to increased spending and stimulating the economy more, keeping it afloat during a time it would normally crash due to all the shutdowns.
in fact, the extra unemployment is probably quite literally the only reason we have not sunk into a greater depression than the great depression...yet. but unless we get further stimulus checks, we may yet crash into utter disaster, because not everyone is on unemployment, some peoples unemployment has run out, debts are piling up, and a lot of americans are HURTING.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Psion] 1
#27079529 - 12/08/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It was your angle. You could have said “I deserve more” but instead said “they deserve less.”
People would be a lot less angry if they stopped worrying about what other people get. The world is unfair. Get over it.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: koods]
#27079544 - 12/08/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sure yeah I'll sign off on more checks. I said that. I'm not even concerned about the unfairness just pointing out that specific arrangement was a "fuck you" to workers. I'm not a senator dudes and want solidarity.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#27079549 - 12/08/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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And to be fair, the greater reason we have not slipped into even worse circumstances is more the people still working than any bills your state decides to dole out.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#27079599 - 12/08/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got laid off on 7/31 and got back to work 1 month later, get back to work lazy people
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: budmanman]
#27079621 - 12/08/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope folks can let go of their resentment and pick up the truth of the situation: The money is there, "they" just keep it from us.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Lynnch]
#27079650 - 12/08/20 10:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The money isn't there, they generate it out of thin air and then charge interest on it and we will foot the bill.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: feevers] 1
#27079725 - 12/08/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
feevers said: Someone sued McDonalds because their coffee was hot.
For the record, this is what the coffee did to that woman. (Warning, very graphic photos)

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Enkidu
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Enlil]
#27079743 - 12/08/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah you guys are right we are just fucked all around
Noones fault to be honest
The system is fucked
I guess we try our best
Everyones tired and sick of all this shit
Wtf is there to do
?? Idk.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Enkidu]
#27079749 - 12/09/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I go to work everyday and QC active pharmaceutical ingredients that are adjuvants and put into the covid vaccines to increase their efficacy. That keeps me going, knowing I will have a direct hand in hopefully ending this pandemic.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Ice9] 3
#27079781 - 12/09/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you’re the guy who puts in the 5G nanoparticles? Or do you just check the signal to make sure they work?
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Edited by koods (12/09/20 12:50 AM)
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: budmanman] 2
#27079784 - 12/09/20 12:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
budmanman said: The money isn't there, they generate it out of thin air.
You’re thinking of bitcoin
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Enkidu
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: koods]
#27079817 - 12/09/20 01:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think we do the same with our money.
Hes right.
All of our "debt" ?
What happens if we degenerate as a country and our dollar no longer has value?
Im not saying printing money does that. But right now our dollar still means something trading in the rest of the world.
If that were to cease, we might be in trouble.
Cant sleep.
Cant fucking breathe my asthma is so bad for some reason.
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Psion
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Enkidu]
#27079845 - 12/09/20 03:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Enkidu said: I think we do the same with our money.
Hes right.
All of our "debt" ?
What happens if we degenerate as a country and our dollar no longer has value?
Im not saying printing money does that. But right now our dollar still means something trading in the rest of the world.
If that were to cease, we might be in trouble.
Cant sleep.
Cant fucking breathe my asthma is so bad for some reason.
if that were to happen, it would mean our country would be in such terrible leadership and in such dire straits that we'd already be in deep shit anyways, so it wouldn't really matter now would it? the fed does not generally "print money" wantonly. if it does so, it does it because inflation is desired, due to deflation occurring. (this is actually often a bad thing, just as bad as rampant inflation. slight inflation can be beneficial...provided wages rise to accommodate it. the problem is... they're not for the lowest class of workers, and havent for many, many years.)
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Psion]
#27079856 - 12/09/20 03:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I understand your struggle, trust me.
Ive always been at the bottom. Still am.
Trying to make shit happen though and transform my situation.
In the end, thats all you can do really.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Ice9]
#27079893 - 12/09/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ice9 said: I go to work everyday and QC active pharmaceutical ingredients that are adjuvants and put into the covid vaccines to increase their efficacy. That keeps me going, knowing I will have a direct hand in hopefully ending this pandemic.
Nice work Pfizer's data look pretty good ahead of tomorrow's meeting.
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Enkidu]
#27081937 - 12/10/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: I think we do the same with our money.
Hes right.
All of our "debt" ?
What happens if we degenerate as a country and our dollar no longer has value?
Im not saying printing money does that. But right now our dollar still means something trading in the rest of the world.
If that were to cease, we might be in trouble.
Cant sleep.
Cant fucking breathe my asthma is so bad for some reason.
the us dollar is the standard for the world pretty well, its pretty hard to imagine it being devalued without such huge changes that to talk of the dollar's value seems an absurd concern... national budgeting isn't really like household budgeting so debt can be a bit misleading
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Ezuma] 1
#27081999 - 12/10/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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more people died from COVID yesterday alone than from the september 11th terrorist attacks.
it's close to being like it was here last july/august, where the hospitalization rate is so high that there start to be quite few deaths because of COVID among people who don't who don't have COVID
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: Ezuma]
#27082216 - 12/10/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ezuma said:
Quote:
Enkidu said: I think we do the same with our money.
Hes right.
All of our "debt" ?
What happens if we degenerate as a country and our dollar no longer has value?
Im not saying printing money does that. But right now our dollar still means something trading in the rest of the world.
If that were to cease, we might be in trouble.
Cant sleep.
Cant fucking breathe my asthma is so bad for some reason.
the us dollar is the standard for the world pretty well, its pretty hard to imagine it being devalued without such huge changes that to talk of the dollar's value seems an absurd concern... national budgeting isn't really like household budgeting so debt can be a bit misleading
It's lost 10% this year against the Euro
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Re: Why is the covid kill count not passing the natural background deaths in the usa? [Re: budmanman]
#27082517 - 12/10/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah debt doesnt matter if our dollar holds value.
I was simply saying if something happens then that debt would have more significance.
People will get by though as we always have.
Humans have and can endure tremendous hardship
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