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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Atria]
#27082406 - 12/10/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Atria said: wait a sec... youre saying contams come from bad spawn? do you have any sources to back up that statement?
Save yourself some time and read a few of his ratings.
Ive got nothing against you personally since I've never failed as a result of anything you've said. I remember reading this guys stuff when I first started and thank god we have a rating system and TC's is all ill say
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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Ababyphoenix]
#27082471 - 12/10/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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i immediately regretted replying lol.
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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Atria]
#27100758 - 12/21/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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All three monotubs went moldy. This is precisely what I figured would happen, and it's exactly why I think monotubs won't work very well for someone like me. I think the culprit was a moldy piece of fruit about 10 feet from the tubs, and the mold did start under the holes. I find it incredibly revealing that the proponents of this technique seem to forget that not everyone has totally pristine homes (as they no doubt do). Some of us don't, and for those, I would not recommend monotubs at all. Learn how to grow mushrooms for real, and you don't have this problem. Monotubs, I am sure, work great if you don't breath on the casing and happen to have a clean place to put them, but that doesn't apply to me.
So here's the BE for me - 0% for monotubs and about 150% for normal non-abusive growing techniques in the same environment. I'll give all this monotub stuff another try in a HEPA-filtered room next time, but I certainly don't recommend it without careful consideration of the growing location. It does not perform as advertised in those conditions.
I am sure the usual trolls living in their parents' basement will reply to this with their nice condescending troll replies about the marvelous miracle of growing grain spawn in coco coir and vermiculite. I won't be reading them, though, so you can save your typing.
This thread is closed from my perspective. If I ever manage to get a monotub to work in a HEPA-filtered room, I'll post about the yield numbers. I suspect they'll perform on par with real growing techniques that utilize controlled conditions, but I've not seen it yet.
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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Blue Helix] 1
#27100800 - 12/21/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Nobler Hino]
#27100836 - 12/21/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll keep my old spawning habit in my dirty ass basement that I haven't cleaned in years. Don't know how I'm so fucking lucky I never see mold.
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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Josex]
#27100837 - 12/21/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Must be because you havent broken that old spawning habit....
On a real note how is a TC saying his tubs went green because of a moldy fruit near the tubs? Ive heard noobs admit to having fully healthy tubs growing right next to moldy messes ina dingy garage. Trusted cultivators who admit to having grown cubes in places with mold obviously growing on the walls...
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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Ababyphoenix]
#27100847 - 12/21/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trusted cultivators who admit to having grown cubes in places with mold obviously growing on the walls...
I used to grow in a mold infested apartment. So moldy you would not believe it until I showed you pics. I had nothing to fear if the spawn was clean. 
I made a post with pics not long ago in the tread POTD talking about this.
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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Blue Helix] 2
#27100905 - 12/21/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Blue Helix said: I think the culprit was a moldy piece of fruit about 10 feet from the tubs,

The CVG cake with the red X has sporulating trichoderma around the base. I don't know what kind of magical fruit you buy but if your theory had any merit this entire tub would be lousy with trichoderma.
We have bag growers that cut the bags top off, grow multiple bags to a monotub, have some go shitty and the rest soldier on right beside the ones sporulating green.
You've got an army of people here growing with nothing but success in monotubs, some TCs who are pushing flushes where there is simply no physical room left in a monotub for a fruit to exist and somehow we're all wrong? There you go with calling anyone who doesn't agree with you a damned troll.
You just made an excuse for failing at one of the simplest concepts in cultivating cubensis. Putting stuff in a tub and leaving it alone. You blamed a piece of fruit dude. Grow your own way and have fun with it but stop telling others they're wrong for using proven methodology that's been refined for what, twenty fucking years or however old the original monotub tek is now?
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Blue Helix said: I am sure the usual trolls living in their parents' basement will reply to this with their nice condescending troll replies about the marvelous miracle of growing grain spawn in coco coir and vermiculite. I won't be reading them, though, so you can save your typing.
I'm going to say it because it needs to be said. If I cop a ban for it well that's on me but fuck it. Why are you even here? Nearly every fucking thread you make devolves into this condescending trash talk from you. Hell, half the time you start out the thread with some smug hogwash that does nothing but irk people and get their dander up. Every single post, every single thread. If we're all so below you why not just keep to yourself instead of putting some very obvious personality defects on display in an effort to hoist yourself up while putting everyone else down?
You're not breaking any new ground, you're failing at the basics and in doing so you're adamant we're all wrong for NOT failing at those same basics and then you just choose to be a condescending prick. Why are you here?
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Ababyphoenix said: On a real note how is a TC saying his tubs went green because of a moldy fruit near the tubs?
It was said before when he spouted off his nonsensical assbackwards understanding of what super spawning was that he got a TC tag back in the day when the standards were much looser. There is nothing trustworthy coming from a guy who can't fruit a fucking monotub and has to blame produce for things going fucktangular.
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Re: Breaking the old spawning habit [Re: Blue Helix]
#27101282 - 12/21/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Everyone who disagrees with me is a troll.
You have to preemptively put insults in your posts.
Sorry man this is a place where adults come to talk about drugs. Everyone cringes when you post.
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