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Whats the best oil for cooking?
    #27082001 - 12/10/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Normally i use olive oil, but this guide i got said olive oil gives off smoke and leaves a burning taste...

I've been told to use vegetable rapeseed oil for frying and cooking.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27082304 - 12/10/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Sunseed oil is a bit more resistant to high temps than olive oil and neutral in taste. Rapeseed generally still has a bit of that nasty flavor in my experience. We use olive oil for lower temps and whenever the flavour is appropriate, and sunseed for higher temps and if neutral flavor is required.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: koraks]
    #27082453 - 12/10/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Sun seed? As in sunflower  ??


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27089760 - 12/15/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, sunflower.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: koraks] * 1
    #27089904 - 12/15/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Coconut oil!


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Allium]
    #27090816 - 12/15/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Use extra light olive oil to fry or sautee. Extra virgin isn't for cooking in a pan.

I use butter or light/extra light olive oil. And peanut oil for deep frying. That's the only oil I ever keep on hand. Besides extra virgin olive oil for salad dressing


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27092104 - 12/16/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Peanut oil? Interesting. Gotta give that a try :thumbup:


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27092366 - 12/16/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Animal fats if I have them are the ones I prefer for potatoes.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: falcon] * 1
    #27092374 - 12/16/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yea nothing beats lard for fries


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27093601 - 12/17/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I use peanut oil for general purpose.

Of course other oils have other applications. Olive oil is good if it's going to contribute to the flavour, and it doesn't get too hot: new york style pizza sauce, slow cooked mushrooms, etc.

Butter works best for low temperature cooking of a lot of things that would benefit from the butter flavour; mushrooms for toast, pancakes, almonds, etc.

Lard is excellent for high temperature cooking, and for quickbreads you cook in the pan: crumpets, chips,fried chicke, etc.

Other oils are more ecconomical. I like to use peanut oil for deep frying, but because it's so expensive where I live I often use Sunflower oil instead.

TL;DR: Match the oil to the application.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: JonBa]
    #27105809 - 12/24/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know what best means to you but the healthiest choices for cooking are coconut oil/butter and gee (clarified butter). Also animal fats are superior to any vegetal oils. Olive oil is good only raw.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27106275 - 12/24/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Sunflower seed oil has a high cooking temperature, it has a neutral flavor, and it is really light. Do not use coconut oil for cooking.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27106720 - 12/24/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Sunflower oil is very high in omega 6.
Rafined coconut oil has the highest cooking temperature and no flavor.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27106737 - 12/25/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Refined oils don't have all the minerals and vitamins intact.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27106743 - 12/25/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Make sure you are taking more than enough Omega 3.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27107088 - 12/25/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Things you really don't need to think or worry about.

Omega fatty acids


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27112410 - 12/28/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

"Olive oil for almost everything"-User here.
To be more specific: Extra native oil from greek island Crete.
I never had a bad/burn/bitter taste even with frying at high temperature, i don't know what all the fuss is about.
No matter what, it always works out fine, from pilaf to salads to roux.

Only for sweet stuff like pancakes or where the Olive oil taste doesn't fit like asian dishes i use tasteless rapeseed oil.

Well, of course i don't cook on master chef level, but i do have my standard.

edit: to those coconut-oil enthusiasts - doesn't the dominant taste bother you - or the high amount of saturated fats?


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Jim Nemo]
    #27113224 - 12/28/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

I think if one is using refined oil, which is basically all cooking oil unless it's organic or specifically unrefined, has probably been heated so god damn high during the manufacturing process that it probably doesn't really matter what temperature you cook it at. I can totally see how unrefined oils burn more easily.

As for coconut oil, I like it in my rice. I'll do 1 tbsp of coconut oil and 1 tbsp of sunflower seed oil for every 2 cups of rice. It makes my black rice taste YUM. But other than that, I don't understand these people who are obsessed with coconut oil in everything. I wouldn't want everything to taste like coconut.


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    #27134699 - 01/08/21 08:19 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Clarified butter or avocado oil if you're vego.

Tallow and schmaltz are always great.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Primal Matter] * 1
    #27194176 - 02/08/21 06:19 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I use coconut oil for general purpose cooking.  For frying food at higher temperatures, I recommend peanut oil.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27212929 - 02/18/21 11:42 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I like Vegetable Oil for cooking :shrug:


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #27221541 - 02/23/21 04:53 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I never use canola oil because that is genetically modified rapeseed oil and idfw gmo foods. I wont touch anything with canola oil in it.

I use coconut oil for general cooking, sometimes olive oil. Depends what I need oil for.
I use sunflower oil for frying things.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27221549 - 02/23/21 05:01 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

It started as a cultivar made by a Canadian university's breeding program. Considering you live in NZ you can probably only buy organic canola as the gmo crops are banned in your country and the import of gmo food might be too


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27221578 - 02/23/21 05:21 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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It started as a cultivar made by a Canadian university's breeding program. Considering you live in NZ you can probably only buy organic canola as the gmo crops are banned in your country and the import of gmo food might be too



Nah bro, GMO Canola Oil 100% makes it into the products on supermarkets in New Zealand shelves...

"GMO Crops" may be banned here, but Canola Oil still makes it's way into packaged foods.

Also, Monsanto brand products make it onto NZ shelves, and the Monsanto brand products contain Canola oil and also Soy, which is another GMO.

We have Kellogg's here. Take Kellogg's for instance.

Special K cereal is a Monsanto brand product, Kellogs is Monsanto brand... They use CORN. That CORN they make cerial from (that ends up on NZ shelves) is Monsanto GMO corn...

https://www.foodbev.com/news/pepsico-australia-switches-to-canola-oil-for-range-of-snacks/

We have Doritos in NZ, Doritos are Monsanto brand, and have Canola oil in em...

NZ is basically a small version of America. Both fucking first world countries. No shit we got Monsanto crap here... And no shit I avoid it like the plague.

We got em all...
Betty Crocker
Kellogg’s
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And the list goes on and on...

All those American products... we get em 2...
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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27221581 - 02/23/21 05:22 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

:themoreyouknow:
Monsanto can suck my cock honestly, they are pure evil and disgusting.
I pride myself in NOT eating their products. Gotta keep myself healthy...


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27221600 - 02/23/21 05:38 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

More for me.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27221869 - 02/23/21 09:10 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

lol I don't think there is any scarcity in Monsanto products there bod, they seem to be great at what they do in poisoning the planet and selling humans a wide array of un-natural junk food products. They have plenty of stock on shelves and ignorant humans don't give second thought in buying Monsanto brand stuff.

The shelves in supermarkets are full of Monsanto brand products, shit gave me a bad trip when I went to the shop on acid, I was dehydrated and needed a drink, going into the shop and seeing all that packaged bullshit scared the shit outta me. Not for me.
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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27237862 - 03/04/21 10:44 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Unfortunately, if you are going to be cooking at anything above low-med heat, peanut oil is required due to the high smoke point.  It's also terrible for you, so maybe get an air fryer and just use minimum peanut oil spray to cook that way.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Ice9]
    #27255327 - 03/16/21 08:42 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I rarely fry anymore but when I do, I use cow butter for superficial frying and coconut oil for thorough frying.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27263268 - 03/21/21 01:17 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Normally i use olive oil, but this guide i got said olive oil gives off smoke and leaves a burning taste...

I've been told to use vegetable rapeseed oil for frying and cooking.




This is a common misconception. Olive oil has a lower smoke point than vegetable oil, but it's actually more chemically stable at high temperatures, so the only reason it should give a burning taste is if you're burning your food in it!

In general, though, it is a good idea to keep oils below their smoke points. Even if the thing about chemical instability is a wholecloth myth, oil smoke of any kind is annoying to deal with and probably not great for your lungs.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: turbulentflow]
    #27263333 - 03/21/21 02:09 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I love olive oil


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    #27264231 - 03/22/21 08:47 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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oil smoke of any kind is annoying to deal with and probably not great for your lungs.





Oil smoke contains acrolein, CH2=CH-CH=O which was used in World War I as a poison gas and is one of the major carcinogens in baked/fried foods.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Asante]
    #27265247 - 03/22/21 11:09 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

My understanding is that since the degradation of glycerol into acrolein isn't an oxidation reaction, there's no inherent reason that a smoking oil should contain any more acrolein than a non-smoking oil of the same temperature. Idk though, you probably know more about the chemistry than I do.

Absolutely agree that you shouldn't breathe in oil smoke, but I just want to emphasize that oils having low smoke points isn't the same as them being chemically unstable at high temperature. In fact, vegetable oil is probably going to produce more carcinogens at temp than olive oil even though the latter has a lower smoke point.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Asante]
    #27265573 - 03/23/21 07:22 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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oil smoke of any kind is annoying to deal with and probably not great for your lungs.





Oil smoke contains acrolein, CH2=CH-CH=O which was used in World War I as a poison gas and is one of the major carcinogens in baked/fried foods.



I never fry food with the windows closed. I need ventilation if I'm standing in the kitchen with a vat of bubbling oil.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: turbulentflow]
    #27265589 - 03/23/21 07:35 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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My understanding is that since the degradation of glycerol into acrolein isn't an oxidation reaction, there's no inherent reason that a smoking oil should contain any more acrolein than a non-smoking oil of the same temperature. Idk though, you probably know more about the chemistry than I do.

Absolutely agree that you shouldn't breathe in oil smoke, but I just want to emphasize that oils having low smoke points isn't the same as them being chemically unstable at high temperature. In fact, vegetable oil is probably going to produce more carcinogens at temp than olive oil even though the latter has a lower smoke point.





Yeah its basically a decomposition of oils and fats so thats not very dependent on what you have. its the part of boiling oil smoke that irritates a bit. Its a war gas. If you smell it, it is doing you lumg damage.


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27265592 - 03/23/21 07:36 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I find good chunk of 100% butter is best for frying onions, chicken, veg , currys etc

Ohh and i always drizzle some olive oil on my pizza :awesome:


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27269188 - 03/25/21 04:55 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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    #27289674 - 05/01/21 09:48 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I am not sure why so many posters say they use some kind of vegetable oils for cooking.  I thought they were bad for you?

I don't cook but back when I did, I used butter.  It was fattening but it was also flavorful.  My grandma used to make lard, which she used in her cooking.


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    #27291150 - 05/02/21 09:35 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

No, coconut oil is good for you.    Coconuts grow on a tree in the tropics.
Made from a coconut tree.  Therefore it from a plant.    Therefore the plant is a vegetable.  Therefore it is vegetable oil.

If you overheat coconut oil, do not pour water into the pan.    Just rurn off the heat and remove the overheated oil from the burner, carefully.
If you can't be  this careful, then just use peanut oil.    It works great at high temperatures and fries foods well.    Also a vegetable!

Whatever oil you use, remember that frying food involves  a highly flammable substance (oil) at  a very high temperature, so when you fry, you are at high risk of burning down your house.    And you must limit the time that your fish filllet (or whatever you are frying) is exposed to this high temperature, else your meal is burned crap.

Just be cool, use a timer, watch the time your meat is frying, and make sure the time ends as soon as the meat is done.    Doesn't take long when the heat is high to turn a perfectly done piece of meat into an overly cooked dried-out piece of crap you would be ashamed to serve Grandma (and rightly so).


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Re: Whats the best oil for cooking? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27625035 - 01/19/22 08:04 PM (2 years, 8 days ago)

Ghee is my favorite.

I hear a lot of people love Duck Fat though.

You can make homemade ghee super easy, and it's inexpensive compared to buying it at the store. I love it.


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    #27632921 - 01/25/22 09:34 PM (2 years, 2 days ago)

Substituted schmaltz, chicken fat for butter in this recipe https://thebigmansworld.com/almond-flour-oatmeal-cookies/ the cookies are great.


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