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mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning
    #27081527 - 12/10/20 03:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

hellor shroomers!
in one of bhantes books there is a mantra
and I have been doing it when not working
walking around eating etc.
and when meant it actually makes you get to goal with the things in the mantra

i tgoes like this

may I be well happy and peaceful
may no harm come to me
may no difficulties come to me
may no problems come to me
may I always meet with spiritual success
may I also have patience courage understanding and determination to meet and overcome inevitable difficulties problems and failures in life
may I always rise above them with morality integrity for giveness compassion mindfulness and wisdom

then for parents
teachers
relatives
friends
all indifferent persons
all unfriendly persons
all living persons

it prevents violence
undue unsuitable drug use
makes you win more
you can rise above it
meet with force and a good attitude

we can think this mantra any time
instead of wasting an opportunity to get something out of it prepare one for one's life getting something out of it it can be run through the system, the brain, the computer with programming or more than programming self change it changes and improves the brain so the brain actually can get in goal with the things

often violence is not in the future but when it is it can be prevented with this excercise
all the time we stand with choices and opportunities and often we lose often we screw up
this excercise gears up and improves the brain so we can get to goal with the fields
all the fields in the mantra
each and every one becomes improved
most when meant
the more it is done the more it happens
first you get closer
then it actually happens that the future prospects become realized


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27081537 - 12/10/20 03:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

remixed Christmas song

(Walking in a winter wonderland)
(Living in Political Prison Land)

Fauci speaks, are you listening?
Wear the mask, keep social distancing
It’s a very depressing sight, for one to be isolated day and night
We are living in Political prison Land

Gone away, are  all our Civil Rights,
because Cuomo was on CNN Last night
Elected leaders today, think they are
God’s in some way,
We are living in Political prison Land!

Next to new york, there is Jersey
Run by the  idiot, named Phil Murphy
They think he is bright, though he has never been right
We are living in political prison Land!

Head out West, it’s very Gruesome
Run by Governor Gavin Newsome
The homeless and decay, disgrace our nation everyday
We are living in Political Prison Land

A Biden win, the election is finally  over
Reality sets in
I’m feeling sober
Now that Donald Trump is finally gone,
by using the Virus as a pawn
We are living in political prison Land!

They’re halting Christmas and the new year
No buying booze or some cold beer
These evil bastards “we pay” Seem to think they have
The final say,
We are living in political prison Land!

We have Elite’s, like Bill Gates, whose life long dream, has been to depopulate!
We finally have a vaccine and it’s the best you’ve ever seen
We are living in a political prison Land!

Give up your freedom, for some security, inside this shot, comes much uncertainty
Our constitution, they say, is outdated in many ways
We are living in political prison Land!


Forced vaccination, is the only way, You will do this, because that is what I say,
In the land of the free, I ask how the F**K can this be?
We are living in political prison Land!

As the time goes by and the years do pass, we will look back and say this was a war about
class!

We are living in a political prison Land!


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27081661 - 12/10/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hi Ferdinando, I recognize that as the metta meditation, glad you discovered it.

perikleous, you need some relief and could begin using Ferdinando's approach, instead of reprocessing the news feeds into manifesto poetry.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27081859 - 12/10/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

yes it is good because sometimes we are not working and we need something to do for those times
it's good that's why it's called work
or getting things done
I would like to self transcend
but at least I can do this
if it's meditation or when then that's just even better because we know meditation works quite powerfully it really works almost extremely powerfully
but I think mantra and meditation is not the same but I agree it is like meditation warms and sculpts the self to something more lovely warm efficient!


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27081883 - 12/10/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I just did some more of it and I saw it could be used to prevent harm
I am not a person who thinks violence is good or preferable but I did get hit once
so now I can use this mantra which is actually also meditation or a sail or triggerer of meditation or an activator
so I have goals with meditation in that way one prevent harm two get things done and three go where is best
so you both get the basic necessary harm reduction and basic necessary life booster/enhancer of getting things done and the extra(?) trigger of rapture or euphoria or getting it better from going where is best
that is a major part


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27081894 - 12/10/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

life is not that long so it is difficult to get huge amount of meditation done
started when I was 22 so early in a way
but 22 years too late
or like missed 22 years
and for liberation I recommend starting young as young as possible
it (how much meditation one does) depends a little on how much one does a day and for how long obviously it is possible do 10 huge amounts
say 10000 or 20000 hours
it depends on how long one lives
and how motivated one is
and how much of the day one dedicates to meditation
it is kind of a sweeping you set off time so you have to be very there and then you sit and then how long one sits depends on something in the person psychology we should find out what that is


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27081970 - 12/10/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I have also found bathtub bath then little water from shower cold or a little cold and then lying on the bathruum floor :laugh:
it's like being on a vacation soaking in the sun


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27081972 - 12/10/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

we don't even need music for it since it's later (it gets greater all the time)


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27081974 - 12/10/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I was amazed it's seldom you find that kind of quality that is not drugs


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27081978 - 12/10/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

but it is filled with the brim with good stuff and cool stuff and awesome stuff like the magick book from spirituality and mysticism now I have paint in front of me


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27083430 - 12/11/20 04:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I honestly do it as much as I can
when I'm not meditating or writing here I can always get something done with this
like to put it short I have an opportunity to meditate and get something done when I am not working any place any time just when it is not impossible like when I am typing etc.
I love it it is like extra meditation and I am sure it can purify the mind
so there are like two benefits the getting something done of meditation (takes care of the future) and the purifying of the mind (which can lead to liberation (if done enough (and that is a fixed figure or really time)))
happy that you are very very productive and getting things done I love the post that weed made him stronger and he way getting things done left and right


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27084685 - 12/11/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Ferdinando said:
hellor shroomers!


may I be well happy and peaceful
may no harm come to me
may no difficulties come to me
may no problems come to me
...
may I always meet with spiritual success
may I also have patience courage understanding and determination to meet and overcome...




Strange the version you have, is all I, I, I ,..... and me, me, me ...

not the one thats goes

"Most simply translated: “May all beings be happy and free.”
More elaborately translated: “May all beings everywhere be happy and free, and may my thoughts, words, and actions contribute in some way to happiness and freedom for all.

https://duluthyogacenter.com/mantra-of-the-month-may-all-beings-be-happy/

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=may+all+beings+mantra&t=h_&ia=web&iai=r1-0&page=1&adx=artexpa&sexp=%7B%22artexp%22%3A%22a%22%2C%22prodexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22prdsdexp%22%3A%22c%22%2C%22biaexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22msvrtexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22bltexp%22%3A%22b%22%7D

or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitr%C4%AB

Main article: Metta Sutta

"May all beings be happy and secure, may they be happy-minded.
Whatever living beings there are - feeble or strong, long, stout or medium,
short, small or large, seen or unseen (ghosts, gods and hell-beings),
those dwelling far or near, those who are born or those who await rebirth
may all beings, without exception be happy-minded.
Let none deceive another nor despise any person whatever in any place;
in anger or ill-will let them not wish any suffering to each other.
Just as a mother would protect her only child at the risk of her own life,
even so, let him cultivate a boundless heart towards all beings.
Let her thoughts of boundless lovingkindness pervade the whole world:
above, below and across, without obstruction, without any hatred, without any enmity."


Edited by laughingdog (12/11/20 08:16 PM)


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27085163 - 12/12/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Ferdinando said:
life is not that long so it is difficult to get huge amount of meditation done
started when I was 22 so early in a way
but 22 years too late
or like missed 22 years
and for liberation I recommend starting young as young as possible
it (how much meditation one does) depends a little on how much one does a day and for how long obviously it is possible do 10 huge amounts
say 10000 or 20000 hours
it depends on how long one lives
and how motivated one is
and how much of the day one dedicates to meditation
it is kind of a sweeping you set off time so you have to be very there and then you sit and then how long one sits depends on something in the person psychology we should find out what that is




.  Ferdinando, you certainly sound dedicated, but you seem to have missed, the paradoxical core, of the 'spiritual endeavor'.

.  As a famous Zen Master told his students: "The self that wants to get enlightened, is the self that will be destroyed by enlightenment".

.  Why do I say, this may be so in your case? Because you frequently post about how you are keeping track, of how much time you are putting into your efforts, and because your version of a Metta mantra is all about "I" & "Me". Which of course is opposite to the bodhisattva ideal. And also opposite to practices like bowing and Tonglen. Or what is expected of students in ashrams, Zen Centers, and monasteries.

.  One might guess that you lack a true teacher of 'the way', who might well say that you can practice the way you are presently doing, for ages with little result.

.  Without a sense of humor and some more sense of inclusivity, it sounds like the path you are on, is rather grim. Of course I don't know you, and this could all be my projection, but like I say it sure appears this way from your posts.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: laughingdog]
    #27085179 - 12/12/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

if you need answers, then use google, but if you become a question, the world is awake and alive.

this may seem questionable, but it is the essence of openmindedness.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27085557 - 12/12/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

effective
good for fields
relative quality


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27086702 - 12/13/20 04:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

so metta meditation actually purifies the mind and gets one to goal with the themes winning "overcoming obstacles" etc.
sculpts the mind and transforms it with better things in life as result including better habits and better action
it is anti-distorting
somewhat like anti-distorting distortion
like gardening
the person puts the mantra or the meditation to use to the mind (as an object, like a garden, to an object of warming and cleaning)
it takes a lot of meditation to purify the mind
every part of the path or doing this we see weeds fall away mind becoming more purified closer to purified
even if you do this for 2000 hours, meditate 2000 hours still not entirely purified just saying but here and at every place in the life and path and meditation stage we must purify further
at age 28 still not purified (we call it to the point of liberation) even after thousands hours but maybe close
the more we do it the more time we have done it the less detergent needs to cleanse, purify the mind to ego loss
depends on when you start, how frequently, how long at a time when ego loss happens or what you want to call it
before that it is our friend, it purifies, it takes care of the future it is good action and gets one to goal with winning and avoiding trouble


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27086805 - 12/13/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

ferdinando
in the coming year
I hope things clear up a lot

you have done much good work

the concept of purity, however, is erroneous.
adding metta meditation does not purify, it dilutes the bullshit impulses with good ones.
like water loosens dirt and carries it to drainage.

new growth nourished by this water is something to look forward to.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27086894 - 12/13/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
ferdinando
in the coming year
I hope things clear up a lot



Do you hope the same for me?


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27086904 - 12/13/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

no, for you:
I hope you are accepted by some council that exists in your cosmology but thankfully not in mine.
they should have taken you long ago.
maybe you escaped, I have no clue.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27086911 - 12/13/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

haaaappy birthday redgreenvines!


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27086917 - 12/13/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

yes the psychiatric patient thing made people be much worse to me
one single act is middle big
over the years it added up
I understand what you said about dilution I have seen it


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27086920 - 12/13/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I like to see the changes in the self the new treasures that arise


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27086922 - 12/13/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

there are two types of improvement the change of the self treasures happening coming like being humble being more resourceful

and drawing more and things clearing up and such


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27086924 - 12/13/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I like the first one but I have been sloppy with the second part job school etc.
such things every one is middle big and very important for how one has it happniness etc


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27086976 - 12/13/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

what did you do today

I had a feeling that I almost steadily increase in quality of how I would be as a boyfrined
and that my future is almost reasonable
and that things like job come a long time into the future
like it will be almost fine :smile:


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27087012 - 12/13/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

anyway I will be doing meditation and yoga every day

you only have yourself
or everything


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27087329 - 12/13/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

for my birthday - lots of whatsapp and videophone calls; and we went to get something to cook, otherwise reading star trek novels. I don't want to go anywhere or see anyone or do anything.
just chillin'


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27088074 - 12/13/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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I have no clue.



But you do.

There's something extremely out of the ordinary going on.

Did you know Orgy is telepathic?


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27088076 - 12/13/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Also, happy birthday, RGV. :heart:


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27088123 - 12/14/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Did you know Orgy is telepathic?



Yeah you know, else where does the nickname Orgy arise?


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27088261 - 12/14/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

take no hostages


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27088321 - 12/14/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I have no idea what that means. Care to elaborate without more metaphors?

Do you have any idea about the hell I've been through the past 8 years? I'm sick and tired of this fucking bullshit depression, intrusive thoughts and being forced to do evil things.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27088325 - 12/14/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I have no control over my own actions, I only suffer the consequences. IT'S FUCKING HELL I TELL YOU!


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27088334 - 12/14/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I've never had actual sexual intercourse and never been in an actual relationship and I'm 30 and my penis doesn't work FFS!

I would NEVER EVER submit to this hell, even if I'm becoming "God". It's  not worth it. Everyone else gets a free-ride to heaven while I have to do all the suffering. I've not seen Penelope_Tree write in these forums while being literally batshit fucking crazy and I'm going to marry her. How on Earth does she deserve me? No offense, I'm sure she's beautiful, but let's get real.

And the evil one Orgone_Conconlusion, WTF has he done???

I do ALL the horrible work and I suffer so many bad consequences the joke is on me, like Looney said. :mad2:

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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27088350 - 12/14/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I've chased the one I love the most on planet Earth, my mother, around the house being mad out of my mind and shouting the most evil things in the phone to my beloved father weeks after his heart stopped and then I'm forced to do it again after he had cancer later this year.

Yeah, I'm fucking lucky, Ice.

This is FUCKING evil.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27088487 - 12/14/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

what I mean is, let this not become another hostage situation.
which is when you rightfully feel you got the short stick, but decide to take everyone in the room hostage for attention. (and that is never any good anyway - it just re-inforces freakazoidfullness)

it sucks for everybody that you feel shitty when you act like a doofus.

there must be something you can do like pushups or squats, that does not involve anybody else. involving others who are unwilling is the essence of hostage taking.

or maybe make yourself comfortable at least in some way and begin to practice metta.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27088579 - 12/14/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

definitely practice metta
with that advice and the metta mantra it becomes a little metta producing or like it


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27088582 - 12/14/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

maybe a little self compassion too


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27088610 - 12/14/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Boy's got a split mind. Another humpty dumpty in this way of life.... SPLAT; sadness, sad, how very very unfortunate.

This to you Pinkerton, a fellow criminal. :heart: One day you and I will be judged for the crimes we have commited unbenknowst to ourselves. But that is not this day. In some past day or past life somewhere we drifted from the essential to the trivial and thusly forgot what was essential. On this day perhaps you still have a shred of a chance to weave a miracle for yourself and snap out of it.

Anyway try and get a little more sane will ya? The cage ain't right for you kid, nor any other.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27089575 - 12/14/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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what I mean is, let this not become another hostage situation.
which is when you rightfully feel you got the short stick, but decide to take everyone in the room hostage for attention. (and that is never any good anyway - it just re-inforces freakazoidfullness)

it sucks for everybody that you feel shitty when you act like a doofus.

there must be something you can do like pushups or squats, that does not involve anybody else. involving others who are unwilling is the essence of hostage taking.

or maybe make yourself comfortable at least in some way and begin to practice metta.



I'm telling you man, something extremely abnormal is going on with me and I fucking hate it.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Grapefruit]
    #27089577 - 12/14/20 09:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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This to you Pinkerton, a fellow criminal. :heart:



What crimes have you committed?


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27089688 - 12/14/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Crimes against myself, crimes against creation, crimes I just can't help. Transgressions. Both mental and physical, though I am not talking about things I would come up against a court of law for.

Extremely abnormal suffering is my lot too and I've found it's best to try not to let it get to you. To pass your days without murmur of complaint, to stay on a level, and even keel, as much as possible. Though it is very tempting indeed to let it get to me. This is known as accepting your karmic lot.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Grapefruit]
    #27089757 - 12/15/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

In what way do you suffer in extremely abnormal ways? I'm going to be a bit direct now but I think you'll handle it; why have you not committed suicide yet?


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27089764 - 12/15/20 01:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

a little meditation and a little yoga every day


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27089765 - 12/15/20 01:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

the benefits really are vast


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27089885 - 12/15/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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In what way do you suffer in extremely abnormal ways? I'm going to be a bit direct now but I think you'll handle it; why have you not committed suicide yet?




Long story to the first part, can't be arsed to go through it. More the consequences of mental degradation and a split in my mind like a chasm. Still I'm kinda numb to it with benzos and what not, bit like a psychopath really.

Why have I not commited suicide? Kinda fucking pointless anyway first of all. Secondly I am fucking lazy. Thirdly I feel like I have a certain obligation to those who are attached to me, don't really wanna make a big splash like that, rather just go quietly. Still I might get around to it some day. Would be happy to find I had a reasonably easy cancer.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Grapefruit]
    #27089903 - 12/15/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah a reasonably easy cancer is OK. Living my last days sleeping most of the day and on high doses of oxycontins and morphine and what not sounds pretty sweet.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Grapefruit]
    #27090729 - 12/15/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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... To pass your days without murmur of complaint, to stay on a level, and even keel, as much as possible. ...




.  Steven Hawking seems to have been an example, of someone stuck in a situation, most would find unbearable. It would seem he partly coped with it by finding an emotionless but interesting mental world (in his case: math / physics).
.  Perhaps anything of this nature, whether it be chess, math, or other topic potentially interesting due to infinite variations, but devoid of the capacity to trigger emotions due to associations with past or current events in one's life, has some value, for some, also stuck in difficult situations.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando] * 2
    #27091610 - 12/16/20 06:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

OP said "may no difficulties come to me"

I always ask for some difficulties and interesting events to come my way. I want to tackle them and grow from this. I cannot imagine living a life without difficulties. I had many and always learned something from them. I'm not complaining about my fate being CRUEL to me, for bringing challenges my way. I cannot imagine asking for a perfect easy life in a mantra. I'd rather do the opposite.

I am rather happy about being alive now and I hope to be a witness to all the worst that is soon going to happen on this planet. All it takes is to try and learn how not to be afraid of pain. Some people say that we chose the time place and person we want to incarnate to. I don't really dig this much, but I make a conscious decision and accept being here, now, the person I am and I am hungry to take parts in the events which are taking place already and those which are due.
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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #27091623 - 12/16/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

you must already be one of those rare people who have everything in working condition.

for you the mantra can be extended:
may I continue to be well and happy facing myriad challenges...
then widen the sphere to include a teacher, a friend, an acquaintance, a stranger, an opponent (see your enemy with honor - a klingon thing), and the whole world.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #27092228 - 12/16/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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OP said "may no difficulties come to me"

I always ask for some difficulties and interesting events to come my way. I want to tackle them and grow from this. I cannot imagine living a life without difficulties. I had many and always learned something from them.




.  You express an attitude that leads to feeling strong, whereas the opposite would seem to lead to frequently feeling overwhelmed and even could be the basis for those who become Junkies.
. The attitude you express might be called an heroic attitude, or perhaps 'Nietzschean'. Gratitude is an attitude recommended by many.

In the Buddhist aphorism / saying: "May all beings be happy", etc. -
'it is meant to be similar to', in some ways, to the later saying
"Judge not lest yea be judged".
In other words the emphasis is on the all beings part
and wishing the same good fortune for all,
and keeping an open heart, that does not close down just because one doesn't like someone.

Fernadino's version with all "I"s and 'Me"s seems a pathetic later weakened version, perhaps, for those in consumer societies.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #27092987 - 12/16/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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OP said "may no difficulties come to me"

I always ask for some difficulties and interesting events to come my way. I want to tackle them and grow from this. I cannot imagine living a life without difficulties. I had many and always learned something from them. I'm not complaining about my fate being CRUEL to me, for bringing challenges my way. I cannot imagine asking for a perfect easy life in a mantra. I'd rather do the opposite.




Interesting perspective.

Instead of wanting to avoid difficulties and problems, it might be wise to simply see them as a part of experience, without using such qualitative terms, which are seen and felt as derogatory. People often joke about the concept of heaven, and that what's tempting to deem a "perfect" life would likely feel less than human... And some problems and difficulties lead to incredibly wonderful experiences in life. Often we don't see that.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: laughingdog]
    #27093625 - 12/17/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Fernadino's version with all "I"s and 'Me"s seems a pathetic later weakened version, perhaps, for those in consumer societies.



call me a troll or any other name if you like, but I get the feeling that you are acting like the self appointed expert on buddhist form.

form is emptiness.

your critique of this effort of an earnest acolyte (Ferdinando is earnest above all) is inconsistent with Noble Eightfold Path:
right view, right resolve, right speech, right conduct, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right samadhi ('meditative absorption or union').
in no way are the particular words or ideas used on the way to right mindfulness or right samadhi to be critiqued.
i do not see right language or vocabulary among the 8
nor right country, right IQ, etc.

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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27093716 - 12/17/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27093723 - 12/17/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I recommend staying with all the good things like job etc.
and not letting negative things in
maybe think about what could they be
what are the risks
meditation can be used to prevent trouble


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27093739 - 12/17/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

has anyone seen harold and kumar
it's great for when high especially on shrooms
when we try to get there there is a place a thing a state a personality a self in the future that we want to get to
but here's the cat 22
the territory we are at before matters
too
almost as much
we become blind in search of the thing in the future
so we must be careful
always do no wrong
and do good
think about it
what do I do daily
tomorrow?
today?
what did I do today?
that is probably approximately what you will do tomorrow
so we have to be smart
we have to be sharp
avoid trouble
take your time
there must not be something bad in the life
a little drugs?
ok as long as it doesn't harm anyone else
but violence error and criminal and such none of that
and enjoy
and be happy
open minded
broad minded
maybe even give yourself a pat on the back an acknowledgement
and move on
and be kind
be nice
be proper mentally
and watch where you walk
walk innocently
as in with no bad stuff in the feet
and not to bad things
and then maybe lay in meditation and yoga
and try to follow redgreenvines' advice
be calm
be still
see walk get through it
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what will be in the years
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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: laughingdog]
    #27093809 - 12/17/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Got plenty of ways to distract myself. Doesn't always work though, chess is way more than my mind can take, I listen to music, live like a hermit, chain smoke, take benzos, play easy video games (mmos), and learn a bit of Japanese. Takes my mind off things and it's better than getting on board with the prevailing narratives in this diseased social ship anyway. Just the way it goes when you're as broken as I, about all I'm capable of. Still I try to keep it steady.

"There ain't nothin' like a 9 to 5 to merk your creative verse
The life and times of Jake emerged
Where Brighton's bright lights the jade that burns
Collate the dirt and arrive in the naked earth, today
I live life in a hazy blur
Blazed, immersed in chasing a faceless skirt
So wait your turn to pray for your savior, sir
The flames'll burn for days in your paper church
My brain'd burst if it just had the guts to
I'd escape the world if I just had the funds to
I'm stuck hittin' undo, undo, undo
But 'control-z' never worked like the drugs do
Trust who? When your fucking lust has become you
Bun you, you haven't got the time anymore
Let me fly, set a course to the sky from the floor
And I'll soar from this island of violence and war
And the warbling sirens prized from the jaws of my former confinement
You died to conform them
Rise from your morgue as the kids cower, hell-bound
Pilot your thoughts to a twin-tower meltdown
This is how sweat sounds dripping from a prang fist
Swimming in a sandpit
Missing his Atlantis
That's rich, coming from the head of a Gremlin
Man there's too many steps and I'm ever descending"


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Grapefruit]
    #27094765 - 12/17/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Got plenty of ways to distract myself. Doesn't always work though, chess is way more than my mind can take, ...




Chess & math are also way more than my mind can take, but simpler number patterns and colored geometric patterns work to distract me.

Learning Japanese sounds like a very complex project. I was never very good with languages.

Reading and Youtube videos are also resources that are independent of others, that sometimes work.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: laughingdog]
    #27095678 - 12/18/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It's fairly easy with the modern app technology available for rote memorisation (particularly for Japanese), so long as you are not super goal oriented. I have no goal with it, just another aimless project.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Grapefruit]
    #27096239 - 12/18/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Any way the wind blows, it don't matter to me...

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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27174224 - 01/28/21 08:48 AM (3 years, 11 hours ago)

I am of the oppinion that one must work all one's life for like 6 hours a day
pretty much the more the better
even meditate one's entire life
we live our lives anyway so we might as well meditate for like 20 30 min. a day
even a little like that every day
but then it has to be all one's life
pretty much any is hugely beneficial!
10000 hours is invaluable
it is very sought after
so to do that one could meditate 20 30 min. a day
and then in case one did that one's whole life one would reach it
of course the meditation assists somewhat as it is done throughout one's life whenever one starts, so there's that but it makes sense to go for it it is a huge improvement and even just to go for huge improvements and improvements


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #27174325 - 01/28/21 10:22 AM (3 years, 9 hours ago)

Maybe this would help:

Can you describe here what you do for meditation?
I mean can you explain in your words what your practice is?
Most people have to work for a living so the minutes and hours etc. may not be available to catch up to what you do.
Can you explain how you approach tranquility
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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27175428 - 01/29/21 12:16 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Ferdinando

1) probably usually people who live in monasteries
or go on long retreats
don't post about it

2) Generally part of the practice is doing simple tasks with mindfulness to
integrate what happens on the cushion with the rest of life
just sitting is not a balanced practice

3) Certainly a life dedicated to practice makes a big difference, but there is no guaranty that a certain amount of time invested will have a certain result. If not done for its own sake, meditation would seem to be just another form of getting, or hoping to get.
And as such ultimately frustrating

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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: laughingdog]
    #27175493 - 01/29/21 02:25 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I sit on the cushion
bhante said we don't have to do anything
maybe I step aside or go for not being sidetracked by the distractions taken to where they want me to go (will me)
I want to learn it and wanted it it is a skill and a practice
sometimes I have actually done it a practice tried to be there like more mindful and sharper possibly some going away from the distractions like escaping a hurricane
there is so much to do with it but do our best with it
I have had benefit from it just a little like 10 seconds (on the cushion) and then weightlifting and drawing or something like that a winning streak I have had up to 3 benefits after very little meditation (practical)


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27175494 - 01/29/21 02:28 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

can I explain how I draw
you go to where there is the least friction or disturbance or turbulence
thus the mind becomes happy
like this when we sit in the midst of change the mind does not interfere as much and the mind can change in a less disturbed way as a less disturbed thing


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27175574 - 01/29/21 05:17 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

thank you for explaining.

will Bhante answer questions that you have when events occur in meditation?


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27177372 - 01/30/21 03:41 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

hey I really meditated today
thought I did and it was beneficial but now I get that thing about the payoff is big it takes care of the future
greeted my bro in a happy and extremely good way
I think it can even take care of the garden
I tried to follow my breath
I want more of it
I only meditated some of the time small parts of the time but I want to do it again and more
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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27177682 - 01/30/21 09:31 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

HOLY SHIT guys
and rgv
whom I have been talking to a lot for 10 YEARS
you can order psychedelics with mastercard
I wrote buy 1 p lsd with mastercard and I could buy I ordered I have been off pysychedelics pretty much for 7 years
I am so excited about psychedelics and life in general and the world
have a great year
I am so happy to be able to do psychedelics and that you are
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    #27177685 - 01/30/21 09:32 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

personally I'm all set up in terms of what I ordered don't need more I recommend that situation


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    #27177737 - 01/30/21 10:15 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27177739 - 01/30/21 10:18 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I'm happy for you, brother Ferdinando! :heart:


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27178901 - 01/31/21 05:46 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

found some vitamin c powder it is to be taken in 1 gram amounts
heard it works like amphetamine
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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27178911 - 01/31/21 06:04 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Try it but I don't think it will feel anything like amphetamine, unfortunately. I don't notice any effects when consuming vitamin C.


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Re: mantra for preparing for nonviolence and not doing drugs and winning [Re: Pinkerton]
    #27199173 - 02/11/21 11:23 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

no bhante will not answer any questions that arise during evens in meditation
because we have to be there as much as possible


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