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OfflinePem Das
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I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community
    #27080174 - 12/09/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

My organization has been involved with psychedelics for 1,000's of years, and you have been lied to about them.  They are not spiritual or god, they are technological and scientific.  They dissolve your neural net, and then the brain must reorganize itself- this is the process that is trippy.  Your brain is on a trip, looking to make new connections- teach itself new connections based on your experiences.  It's kind of like when your computer gets a new update, and you have to wait for it integrate itself into your software.  That's all that's going on.

To call this experience spiritual or god, or mystical is the reason the sham man could create religion. 

Also, the psychedelic revolution was planned in the late 1800's by some Austrians.  Read Alan Piper's paper on st peter's snow.

Albert Hoffman story is bogus. LSD has been around for centuries and related occasionally by secret societies.  Most recently the Freemasons have been fucking with us using their media and entertainment industry.  I worked in the music industry- satanic as fuck.

We can use psychedelics to build our communities up or enter madness.  The satanist want you insane.  We real Christians want you to build a new Jerusalem in your heart.  Christianity is not a religion- it is a technology-- very low tech, but a technology none the less.

Your goal with psychedelics is not to kill your ego, but to expand it, not thinking only of yourself, but your family, friends, community, country, world, into your whole being.  The 1% wants 1,000 of nut jobs out there preaching a new world order archaic revival so that you be easy to control. DON'T TRUST them....

Its all a sham, man. 


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Pem Das] * 1
    #27080205 - 12/09/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What utter nonsense.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: HappinessStan] * 3
    #27080253 - 12/09/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

yep another psychedelic casualty.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #27080259 - 12/09/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Lol what? Let me know where I can find the medieval LSD labs and we can talk more 🤣


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27080265 - 12/09/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Or, a religious nutjob terrified that psychedelics will open people's minds and keep them clear from the bullshit that is Christianity. Imagine thinking psychedelics are technological when most come from nature. Even lsd starts from a mold.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: HappinessStan]
    #27080268 - 12/09/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

"Christianity is not a religion". :rofl:


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: HappinessStan]
    #27080309 - 12/09/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

OP, you are using technology and religion interchangeably and applying them how and when you see fit.

Saying everything that is "religious" is actually called technology is a game of semantics, if all internal meanings remain unchanged. Calling an apple an orange doesn't change what it is, just gives it a new label for identification purposes.

I don't doubt there are all types of people out there. Are there people looking to control others? Sure, and if they have power they may have some success doing so. Are there satanists who are trying to form a cabal to propagate a "new world order" to their designs? Sure and, again, some of those people will be people in power and have some success doing so or convincing others of it.

But, at the end of the day, reality is unbelievable complicated. There are good and bad actors. There are grand illusions, delusions and conspiracies. But the truth beneath the surface is so much greater, and of indescribable complexity, that all of this conspiracy stuff is just a mix of nonsense and the manifestations of some bad actors.

Furthermore, it seems disingenuous to believe that the contemporary psychedelic revolution is indicative of the most important psychedelic use across all time and culture. Psychedelics have been used for far longer, and by far more cultures, than we could conceive. They were in use before all of these "conspiracies" were even sociologically possible.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Pem Das] * 1
    #27080313 - 12/09/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Pem Das said:
My organization has been involved with psychedelics for 1,000's of years]




What is your organization and what is their involvement with psychedelics?


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Dilsnique] * 1
    #27080332 - 12/09/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Sources and proof or gtfo

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Pem Das said:
My organization has been involved with psychedelics for 1,000's of years]




What is your organization and what is their involvement with psychedelics?




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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Dilsnique]
    #27080333 - 12/09/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I was raised Baptist and my mind was in need of some sort of reorganizing. Psychedelics helped me with that. But your point is valid. Reorganizing your mind isn't always beneficial. Welcome to the harvest field.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Hartford]
    #27080439 - 12/09/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Nice to see so many sensible responses.

One might almost wonder if the OP was trolling, except the post seemed too complicated, to be worth the effort of trolling. And Christianity does give rise to all sorts of further nonsense. It would seem to often to be the real source of much mind rot.

Strange 'place' the internet is...


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: laughingdog]
    #27080460 - 12/09/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

One must troll with style!



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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Dilsnique]
    #27080505 - 12/09/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

cute
nice style indeed


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Pem Das] * 1
    #27081403 - 12/10/20 12:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think that psychedelic experiences are often misinterpreted and can lead individuals astray. I often hear people attempt to explain their experiences and their descriptions aren't sensible.

E.g. the vibes of consciousness are one, when you dissolve yourself you will know inner peace.

It sounds somewhat relatable but it means nothing and isn't interpretable in a consistent way.

I think there's a lot of whack whithin the community and it's a shame that coherent retrospection of psychedelic experiences is a rarity.

It's often ourselves that drive us to delirium, but often not the intent.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Pem Das]
    #27081423 - 12/10/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I would assert you've been grossly misinformed on the topic, OP.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #27081492 - 12/10/20 02:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I have nothing but contempt for 98% of politicians.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: HappinessStan]
    #27107221 - 12/25/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Of course psychedelics are technological, what else could they be? What he said about the drug dissolving the neural net, the body having a new experience while being free from the strangehold of it's thought structure and then the mind trying to integrate that experience into memory is all true. As for the rest of what he is talking about, I'm sure I don't know.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27107223 - 12/25/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Would you disagree that psychedelics aren't merely a technology created by nature presumably for the purpose of man?


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: OnlyHuman]
    #27107470 - 12/25/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

nature does not create technology, so I don't agree with that part
psychedelics affect many species, so I don't agree with that part either.


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27107568 - 12/25/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

let's not get caught up on semantics, when I say technology you hear something completely different

magic? science? matter? spirit? what's the difference they're all meaningless words

All I mean by technology is that we have a body and it can be described as a machine and psychedelics inhibit certain activities within the machine that change perception

I said presumably but yeah probably not lol


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: OnlyHuman]
    #27107739 - 12/25/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

there are snowflakes falling on my screen


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Re: I have nothing but contempt for the psychedelic community [Re: Pem Das]
    #27108088 - 12/25/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Pem Das said:
My organization has been involved with psychedelics for 1,000's of years, and you have been lied to about them.  They are not spiritual or god, they are technological and scientific.  They dissolve your neural net, and then the brain must reorganize itself- this is the process that is trippy.  Your brain is on a trip, looking to make new connections- teach itself new connections based on your experiences.  It's kind of like when your computer gets a new update, and you have to wait for it integrate itself into your software.  That's all that's going on.

To call this experience spiritual or god, or mystical is the reason the sham man could create religion. 

Also, the psychedelic revolution was planned in the late 1800's by some Austrians.  Read Alan Piper's paper on st peter's snow.

Albert Hoffman story is bogus. LSD has been around for centuries and related occasionally by secret societies.  Most recently the Freemasons have been fucking with us using their media and entertainment industry.  I worked in the music industry- satanic as fuck.

We can use psychedelics to build our communities up or enter madness.  The satanist want you insane.  We real Christians want you to build a new Jerusalem in your heart.  Christianity is not a religion- it is a technology-- very low tech, but a technology none the less.

Your goal with psychedelics is not to kill your ego, but to expand it, not thinking only of yourself, but your family, friends, community, country, world, into your whole being.  The 1% wants 1,000 of nut jobs out there preaching a new world order archaic revival so that you be easy to control. DON'T TRUST them....

Its all a sham, man. 




If your post is an example of “the psychedelic community” you mention, I understand your contempt...but I don’t think you meant it that way.  Taken at face value, you were tripping balls as you typed this, and your post never lands anywhere:  it wanders, unraveling as it goes


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