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InvisibleAllium
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Turkey Tails
    #27078237 - 12/08/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So, I didn't know where to post this, but here goes. I hunt turkey tails, which range in shape from flimsy and fresh, to dry and kind of brittle, but usually the latter.

This being said, does it matter what shape the turkey tails are in before they loose potency? I would hate to think that I've been picking bunk tails that are too old and useless, but I just don't know how to tell.

Any info on this subject would be Greatly appreciated :thumbup:


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27078438 - 12/08/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Some pics of what you are collecting would help. I’m not sure sure about when their ‘medicinal’ properties are the best, but I would guess it’s when they are fresh.

Your description of ‘flimsy and fresh’ sounds off though, they are very tough when fresh and quite pliant flexing like a rigid silicone spatula IMO.

What part of the world are you located in?


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27078464 - 12/08/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Dang, so all the dried older ones I've been making tea with are most likely bunk then :facepalm:

I live in Kentucky, and I will take some pics of my next finds within the next few days :thumbup:

Thanks for the reply :thumbup:


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27078495 - 12/08/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

There are few "active" compounds present in the fruiting bodies of Trametes Versicolor. All of which are stable to my knowledge, and will not decay during process of drying or exposure to oxygen.
I'm talking about phenolic compounds, polysaccharides PSK and PSP, teprenoids and cinnamic acid.

As long as your collected specimens are not rotten or infested with something, I'd say your tea is very good.

I hunt them as well, but do not pick.


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27078500 - 12/08/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I collect them in the late fall and winter in the SF Bay Area CA (our wet season). I collect them fresh and then dehydrate, next I put them in the freezer for 2 days and then put them in large jars in the pantry.
This two step dry to freeze kills all bugs and larva if I don’t do this or I keep them in plastic ‘wood eating bugs’ seem to spawn or find their way in within a year.

Look forward to seeing what you find. When I a kid I lived in Louisville but was young and didn’t hunt mushrooms back then. Good luck out there.


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27078529 - 12/08/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, thanks for the replies guys :thumbup: I actually thought that I'd check back and there would never be any replies.

So, I do believe that all my finds were indeed still good then, because none were ever rotten or infested with bugs mold etc, although some did had moss growing on them.

I never got a chance to store mine, they are made into tea immediately.

You know, it's so strange how depending on what type of tree/wood they grow on, they can look vastly different, almost like totally different species.

I was actually born in Louisville :thumbup:

But yeah, can't wait to go out foraging, we have some warm temps and rain coming up fr the next several days :excited:

I'll report back soon :cool:


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27078839 - 12/08/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know guys, these look pretty rough,and I could find no fresh ones. Maybe because it's been freezing dang cold out!

What do you guys think, tea time or trash time?

They smell really mushroomy and earthy too.





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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27078875 - 12/08/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

i dunno if those are turkey tails or not...  i wanna help too! lol


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: the man]
    #27078896 - 12/08/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Oh,please don;t say that! I have been consuming these in tea for a while now, because someone on here told me that they were Turkey Tails :facepalm:


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27079028 - 12/08/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think you’re probably good but it’s hard to 100% ID them in that rough of state.
It’s really variable person by person what they are willing to consume. I’d pass on those but that’s also because there is such an abundance of Trametes versicolor in NorCal the right time of year.
I guess I go for fresh and buggy over old and gnarly :lol:
Seems like from a few basic searches they best time of year for them in KY is late spring through early fall.


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27079233 - 12/08/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, the only time you can find fresh actively growing mushrooms here is in late spring into late fall, but I read that Turkey tails grow year round, so this is why I wanted to at least try.

The thing is, there is no abundance of any type of mushroom in my area but Psathyrella ,and when I do find something good, which is extremely rare, I will take it if it isn't just totally rotten.

Really, being a plant and mushroom lover sucks living here because of this horrible climate. Why I was cursed to be stuck is such a horrible state is beyond me.



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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27079957 - 12/09/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Trash time.
They are literally beyond recognition, could be anything, stereum ostrea or maybe some other Trametes sp.
Definitely I would not consume those, especially considering the state they're in.
I have one pic of turkies in my user gallery, I would recommend picking them in that state or a little bit older.


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27079997 - 12/09/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, they are not stereum ostrea I know that for a fact, but regardless they are trash now.

Thanks for the replies guys :thumbup:


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27080079 - 12/09/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Allium said:
Yeah, the only time you can find fresh actively growing mushrooms here is in late spring into late fall, but I read that Turkey tails grow year round, so this is why I wanted to at least try.

The thing is, there is no abundance of any type of mushroom in my area but Psathyrella ,and when I do find something good, which is extremely rare, I will take it if it isn't just totally rotten.

Really, being a plant and mushroom lover sucks living here because of this horrible climate. Why I was cursed to be stuck is such a horrible state is beyond me.






Allium I hear what your saying and I don’t know your specific situation or specifically where you live in KY or what kind of mushrooms you are hunting other than TT’s but KY has a lot of good mushroom territory. I think you hear less about it only because there are less people tuned in, looking and recording there finds. In addition to state parks, wilderness areas etc (for looking for mushroom diversity)I bet there are some good Panaeolus sp in the horse pastures.
https://mushroomobserver.org/observer/advanced_search?page=1&q=1Z2K9


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27080344 - 12/09/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

may be ok... but you should make a new post and fill out a form for an ID and then a trusted ID will offer there services..  they wont unless u take the few minutes to fill out the form..  could post on observer aswell.


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27080614 - 12/09/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

CHUCK.HNTR said:
Quote:

Allium said:
Yeah, the only time you can find fresh actively growing mushrooms here is in late spring into late fall, but I read that Turkey tails grow year round, so this is why I wanted to at least try.

The thing is, there is no abundance of any type of mushroom in my area but Psathyrella ,and when I do find something good, which is extremely rare, I will take it if it isn't just totally rotten.

Really, being a plant and mushroom lover sucks living here because of this horrible climate. Why I was cursed to be stuck is such a horrible state is beyond me.






Allium I hear what your saying and I don’t know your specific situation or specifically where you live in KY or what kind of mushrooms you are hunting other than TT’s but KY has a lot of good mushroom territory. I think you hear less about it only because there are less people tuned in, looking and recording there finds. In addition to state parks, wilderness areas etc (for looking for mushroom diversity)I bet there are some good Panaeolus sp in the horse pastures.
https://mushroomobserver.org/observer/advanced_search?page=1&q=1Z2K9





Eastern Kentucky has all the good mushrooms, and they do grow in other towns and cities around me that I've lived in, but for some reason, they just don't grow in my town.

The main mushrooms you find here are Psathyrella, and not much else, unless you're very lucky, like the gyms I found several weeks back, and my nearly annual oyster patches.


Edited by Allium (12/10/20 06:35 PM)


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Re: Turkey Tails [Re: Allium]
    #27123511 - 01/03/21 09:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Allium I just saw this article and was thinking back to this thread. Anyway I found it helpful wanted to share it with ya.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55e5e7b5e4b0300afc3191e0/t/5787a17e15d5db1ac04f78f8/1468506710767/Commonly+Confused+1+-+Turkey+Tails.pdf


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