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DH42
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A question for the mycologists on liberty caps (p. Semilanceata). Second flush?
#27078130 - 12/08/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Will liberty caps ever flush again after a hard frost? What I mean is if the conditions are right, staying above freezing for a week or so and nice and damp, will they flush? I know from what o have read and been told in lots of places that the first hard ground frost kills them, but surely it just inactivated them and stops them growing due to the temperature difference between the mycelium network underground (not an expert I might haven’t science wrong) and the outside air?
So, if the temp. Is sitting at about 5 Celsius and doesn’t freeze for a week or so, will they fruit again?
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Re: A question for the mycologists on liberty caps (p. Semilanceata). Second flush? [Re: DH42]
#27078150 - 12/08/20 03:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Liberty caps can typically fruit again after shorter periods of light frost, i.e. slight night freezes that thaw up during the daytime, followed by milder periods with high humidity. However, if the freezing temps are persistent and lasts the daytime for a period, the mycelium will most likely go into "hibernation" until the conditions allow the mycelium to start growing again.
Thus it appears that liberty caps have a long growth cycle compared to dung loving species like P. cubensis, which are able to fruit all year given favourable conditions. This is quite apparent when you consider the liberty cap substrate colonisation time is perhaps more than double that of P. cubensis in cultivation attempts.
Other than that, you should just keep looking. A day in the field is never wasted imho, even if you don't find anything.
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DH42
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Re: A question for the mycologists on liberty caps (p. Semilanceata). Second flush? [Re: Anglerfish]
#27078214 - 12/08/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you for taking time to reply Anglerfish. When you said ‘until the conditions allow the mycelium to start growing again’, do you mean until next year or literally just when the conditions for growth are right for long enough? And also, do you know how long it takes very roughly for some of the mycelium to come out of hibernation for a bit?
I realise these are pretty specific questions and it may be that nobody knows the answer but thank you if you can help again!
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Re: A question for the mycologists on liberty caps (p. Semilanceata). Second flush? [Re: Anglerfish]
#27078404 - 12/08/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anglerfish said: Liberty caps can typically fruit again after shorter periods of light frost, i.e. slight night freezes that thaw up during the daytime, followed by milder periods with high humidity. However, if the freezing temps are persistent and lasts the daytime for a period, the mycelium will most likely go into "hibernation" until the conditions allow the mycelium to start growing again.
Thus it appears that liberty caps have a long growth cycle compared to dung loving species like P. cubensis, which are able to fruit all year given favourable conditions. This is quite apparent when you consider the liberty cap substrate colonisation time is perhaps more than double that of P. cubensis in cultivation attempts.
Other than that, you should just keep looking. A day in the field is never wasted imho, even if you don't find anything.
What is your opinion, lets say we have one week of sudden drop in temperatures and lots of rain, and the month is may, can liberty fruit considering it is almost summer ? Do liberty reacts to change in UV, and in spring/summer it is just impossible ?
Yeah, a day in the forest or in the field can't be a bad day 
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