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OfflineSeriously_trippin
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
    #27077208 - 12/07/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

What I love so much about Trump is people's insane reaction to him. It's been a fun 4 years.



It's been fun in much the same way that a four-year drunken bender is fun.  Afterwards, you're broke, permanently disgraced, and need to spend the next 40 years undoing the damage.

But what the hell, we had a few laughs.




The lasting effects of Trump wouldn’t have been any different under any other Republican president. Trump just happened to get in there when the Federalist Society and the other ghouls were poised to complete a crucial step in their ideological mission.



I completely disagree.  The damage Trump did was far greater than SCOTUS picks.



This. When I am convincing in real life people ask me "do you think Biden will change blank" My answer almost always is many of the worst things trump has done could take a decade for legislation to change it if it gets changed at all. At the very ,most Biden has 8 years and with a gridlock in the Senate it will be near impossible for Biden to change certain things


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #27077465 - 12/07/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Holy fuck. Trump blew the negotiations with Pfizer to buy enough vaccine for the country and now we may be at the back of the line and not get more doses until the summer.

https://t.co/BbD20AbSOj


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27077473 - 12/07/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

PAR for the course! Ironically, fucking things up is the only thing trump can hit par at!

I'm no fan of big pharma but they've got more credibility in my book than the WH

White House denies report saying it passed when Pfizer offered additional vaccine doses


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27077474 - 12/07/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck negotiating just take that shit. We funded the god damn vaccine now the corporations wanna dictate terms during a pandemic? Fuck that.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27077480 - 12/07/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

We didn’t fund it


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27077482 - 12/07/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Fuck negotiating just take that shit. We funded the god damn vaccine now the corporations wanna dictate terms during a pandemic? Fuck that.



Whos we. Certainly not you. Not the american citizens or the american government either


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27077487 - 12/07/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The vaccines will not stop coronavirus 19 transmission, only reduce symptoms of Covid 19 diseases.

Monitoring begins 14 days after second dose at 28 days.

10-15% experience fever over 100f after second dose at day 28.

Fact check it.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27077488 - 12/07/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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We didn’t fund it



:justno:

Uh, taxes?


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27077507 - 12/07/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Uh no.

We pre ordered some but now it turns out not nearly enough. I fucking hate trump. His incompetence is fucking over the entire country.

The U.K. started vaccinations today and Canada will start next week. So much for operation warp speed.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27077510 - 12/07/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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The vaccines will not stop coronavirus 19 transmission, only reduce symptoms of Covid 19 diseases.

Monitoring begins 14 days after second dose at 28 days.

10-15% experience fever over 100f after second dose at day 28.

Fact check it.




The fever is how you know it works :elmo:

Vaccines prevent infection. If you aren’t infected you can’t infect other people.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27077511 - 12/07/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27077513 - 12/07/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you for proving me correct

The Pfizer vaccine is made in Europe, so we really have no way to get around the company’s obligations to other countries.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27077515 - 12/07/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Does it say Pfizer got us $ in that article?  The Germans funded Pfizer’s vaccine development.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #27077521 - 12/07/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

No. Pfizer isn’t one of the vaccines funded by the US. We did prepay for something like 20 million doses


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27077528 - 12/07/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Holy fuck. Trump blew the negotiations with Pfizer to buy enough vaccine for the country and now we may be at the back of the line and not get more doses until the summer.

https://t.co/BbD20AbSOj



Pfizer is the most expensive and perhaps risky of the vaccine options because of the super low temperatures required.  No vaccine has been distributed before at this volume that requires this low of a temperature.  If the vaccine doesn't stay super cold throughout the delivery chain, it'll go bad.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27077538 - 12/07/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Vaccines prevent infection. If you aren’t infected you can’t infect other people.



:lolwut:

Vaccines infect you, duh.

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/fluzone-quadrivalent-2020-2021-injection.html

"Fluzone Quadrivalent 2020-2021 works by exposing you to a small dose of the virus, which helps your body to develop immunity to the disease. This medicine will not treat an active infection that has already developed in the body."

"Like any vaccine, Fluzone Quadrivalent 2020-2021 may not provide protection from disease in every person."

Side effects, otherwise known as, effects.

Respiratory
Very common (10% or more): Runny nose/nasal congestion (58%), cough (15%), upper respiratory tract infection (13%)

Common (1% to 10%): Sore throat, cough, oropharyngeal pain, rhinorrhea, wheezing, pharyngolaryngeal pain, nasopharyngitis

Gastrointestinal
Very common (10% or more): Vomiting (15%), nausea (14.9%) diarrhea (13%)


Jeez, those common side effects look a lot like Covid 19 symptoms.

:shrug:


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 5
    #27077544 - 12/07/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This won’t be a productive conversation.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27077548 - 12/07/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Side effects, otherwise known as, effects.




Damn no endorphin rush from your immune system ramping up?


"Check with your doctor or nurse immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking influenza virus vaccine, inactivated"



Edited by falcon (12/07/20 06:39 PM)


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27077597 - 12/07/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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This won’t be a productive conversation.




Because you're wrong?

Two influenza A strains and two influenza B strains.

Flu shots are shots in the dark, guessing which strains will be more prevalent than others.

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X19313647?via%3Dihub#!

Conclusions
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27077612 - 12/07/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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HamHead said:
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koods said:
This won’t be a productive conversation.




Because you're wrong?

Two influenza A strains and two influenza B strains.

Flu shots are shots in the dark, guessing which strains will be more prevalent than others.

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X19313647?via%3Dihub#!

Conclusions
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections.



Because you have no idea how vaccines work dude.


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