|
GoldenDude
Student



Registered: 09/23/20
Posts: 60
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Lions Mane TEK in the MAKING - please contribute - were making history! :)
#27077271 - 12/07/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Hello dear friends,
I would like to start new journey - to grow Lions Mane.
I have couple of questions though, as I am unable to find answers to following questions, or any end-2-end tek for Lions Mane.
I have spore syringe with Lions Mane, I would like to use my monotube to grow it at home.
Can you please advise me on the following: 1. What sort of grain spawn mix should I use for inoculation? 2. What temperature should I keep inoculated Grain spawn to colonize best? 3. Once bags are fully colonized, and then mixed with substrate, what temperature should I keep the cake to fruit? 4. Is there a TEK taking noobs like me by the hand from preparing spawn, colonization, describing best conditions for each stage, what substrate to prepare and how, fruiting conditions and cultivation advise?
Thank you in advance for all your help
Edited by GoldenDude (12/17/20 02:10 PM)
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: GoldenDude]
#27077498 - 12/07/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
1st off you should not grow LM in a monotub.
1. What sort of grain spawn mix should I use for inoculation?
Answer: Whole oats are good. I use 50/50 whole oats and millet.
What temperature should I keep inoculated Grain spawn to colonize best?
Answer: 72F
Once bags are fully colonized, and then mixed with substrate, what temperature should I keep the cake to fruit?
Answer:
60F - 70F
Is there a TEK taking noobs like me by the hand from preparing spawn, colonization, describing best conditions for each stage, what substrate to prepare and how, fruiting conditions and cultivation advise?
Answer: I don't know of a tek. Just ask your questions on the shroomery like you just did.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27077848 - 12/07/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I have related questions, hope it's ok to ask them here. I have a few bags that are almost full colonized. I used millet and it was in about 80F.
But I don't know how to go from here. What substrate? And most of all I can't get to 60 - 70F; more like 74/75. What do I do?
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27077857 - 12/07/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
For sub use 50/50 soy hulls/Hardwood fuel pellets and if you can only get it down to 75F just grow them there you will still get fruit. Those numbers are for optimal temps.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27077879 - 12/07/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I have fuel pellets. Needs to be mixed with soy hulls? Is this ok for soy hulls? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mushroom-Media-Online-100-Soy-Hull-Mushroom-Pellets-Growth-Substrate-10lbs/178714051
Mix 50/50 by weight?
How much spawn to the substrate?
Currently I used 66qt tubs. Can this LM be put in the same tub?
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27077915 - 12/07/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
First off you don't want to grow lions mane in a tub. They will not get enough FAE. You may get away with it but the results will be poor. Another key thing that most new growers make the mistake of doing is misting lions mane if lions mane gets wet they will turn brown.
Yes, 50/50 by weight.
Those soy hulls will work but that price is outrageous. Look at or call a feed store near you. I get 50 lbs of soy hulls for $5 at southern states feed store you may have one near you.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27077936 - 12/07/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
How much spawn to substrate?
Then I put the mixture in a grow bag and seal it?
Puncture some holes in it?
You mention they need FAE. How will they get FAE in the bag?
I googledand found a feed store not too far from me. I will call them tomorrow. Just to make sure are all soy hulls the same for this?
Thank you so much for all your help.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27077956 - 12/07/20 10:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
2 cups (16 oz) is more than enough spawn for a 5 lb bag. I personally use 8 oz. But that is not by weight. I use a spoodle. So just eyeball about 2 cups.
Put the spawn in a filter patch bag with properly hydrated hardwood fuel pellets and seal it with a cable tie above the filter patch. The sub in the bags needs to be sterilized and cooled to room temp before you put the spawn in.
Once the bags are colonized you zip tie the bag below the patch tight against the sub so it will not get air from the filter patch anymore then slice a few x's in the bag. Pins will start to form at the x's because of the fresh air. Now the pins are outside the bag and your fruits will grow properly with all the fresh air you decide to give them.
I use these for zip ties so I don't have to cut them off. They can even be put in the PC without a problem...
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Releasable-cable-50LBS-100pcs/dp/B004C4ZRIK/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3TQZ4D2KK5RRA&dchild=1&keywords=monoprice+cable+ties&qid=1607405229&s=industrial&sprefix=monoprice+cabl%2Cindustrial%2C183&sr=1-5
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (12/07/20 10:43 PM)
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27077974 - 12/07/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Not all soy hulls are the same they come in pellets and loose like flour. I use the pellets. Just tell them you need cattle feed.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27077984 - 12/07/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
This recipe will get you close but be careful with the water. It is better to test your sub moister with the tek in my sig...
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27078560 - 12/08/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
There are no cattle farms where I live. I checked the few farm feed stores not too far from here and they didn't have it. Online is difficult to find that are not outrageously expensive cause of the shipping. Is an alternative to soy hulls?
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27078872 - 12/08/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I don't have cattle near me either but after I searched a very long time I was able to find them they are not easy to find but worth it. If you can not find soy hulls then I would use wheat bran. It is not as good but it works...

Again be careful with the water and the chicken poo and gypsum is optional but does seem to help. I use Espoma chicken manure...
https://www.truevalue.com/chicken-manure-25-lb
|
the man
still masked



Registered: 08/12/99
Posts: 6,681
Loc: C A N A D A
Last seen: 2 hours, 36 minutes
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] 2
#27078976 - 12/08/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
ya soy hulls or rice hulls arent around here either, bran isnt in grocery stores anymore either.. I suspect fine chopped straw may work just as well or even coir and verm. from my understanding the idea of hulls is to add more air and easily digested cellulose so while soy is optimum it will grow on pure SOLID wood just slower and less yeild. even a mix of pellets and aspen shavings should work pretty well but prob take week or 2 more(guess)
Thats one issue with so many TEKS, they dont say WHY. while tried and true is great, not always doable in parts of the world.. ie 20 years ago folks in asia or near equator ordering peat from the north meanwhile had a better resource available. or ordering expensive rye berries when oats is cheaper and more available in alot of places...if folks had been told what and why.. anyhoo i digress
cheers!
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: the man]
#27079035 - 12/08/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
You can't get bran from the feed store?
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27079430 - 12/08/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Not sure what you mean by bag weight. I have these bags. Are they good for this? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PZ27PN9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
I will do some more looking tomorrow for soy hulls.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27079534 - 12/08/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I would save those for spawn they are 0.2 micron. 0.5 micron is all you need for substrate bags. I have never tried to grow in a 0.2 micron bag but I am sure they will be ok.
What I mean by weight of bag is after you put the water and all the ingredients in the bag that will be the weight of the bag. I wouldn't worry too much about that.
Here is where I get my bags if you are in the USA...
https://myersmushrooms.com/shop/ols/products/200-mushroom-grow-bags-5-7-lb-14a
$4 more and you could have doubled the amount of bags and got 50 pcs.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27079626 - 12/08/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27079805 - 12/09/20 01:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
You can use either of them for sub they are just more expensive than 0.5 microns. I have used the 0.5 for spawn bags without a problem so 0.2 micron is just overkill for sub bags in my opinion. Next time just save yourself the money and buy the 0.5 microns.
|
GoldenDude
Student



Registered: 09/23/20
Posts: 60
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27087831 - 12/13/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SHROOMSISAY01 said: I would save those for spawn they are 0.2 micron. 0.5 micron is all you need for substrate bags. I have never tried to grow in a 0.2 micron bag but I am sure they will be ok.
What I mean by weight of bag is after you put the water and all the ingredients in the bag that will be the weight of the bag. I wouldn't worry too much about that.
Here is where I get my bags if you are in the USA...
https://myersmushrooms.com/shop/ols/products/200-mushroom-grow-bags-5-7-lb-14a
$4 more and you could have doubled the amount of bags and got 50 pcs.
How about getting good bags in UK? Can you recommend please?
Ok, so lets say we have colonized bags etc. They are ready to fruit - where is the best to fruit them? Should I buy growing tent? What humidity does Lions mane like?
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: GoldenDude]
#27088043 - 12/13/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
You need more than a grow tent you need an exhaust fan a circulation fan and some way of putting humidity into the tent. Then you need a few cycle timers. A humidity controller is nice also but you can just use another cycle timer but it is harder. Bilge fans are water-resistant so if you can find them in the UK they are cheaper than other fans that are water-resistant.
LM likes 60F to 70F temp and 85% to 95% humidity when fruiting.
|
RamJam
Stranger

Registered: 10/21/20
Posts: 337
Last seen: 2 years, 4 months
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27091407 - 12/15/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Hey dropping in here cuz this is a great thread and I have been having a hard time getting lion's mane to go well. Already ordered some of those bags and some soy hulls.
What's the difference in yields with the tent vs just room humidity? I'm wondering if that's the key I'm looking for.
I have finally gotten my first (tiny) fruit on my 3rd attempt here. It was so delicious I really want to get more and bigger fruits!
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: RamJam] 1
#27091488 - 12/16/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I am sure low humidity will decrease the yield because the fruit will be dryer and they will not look as healthy. The best thing you can do to increase yield is to supplement with soy hulls but it looks like you will be doing that soon. Don't forget to make sure you have the right water content in your sub (check my sig). I am sure people are getting tired of hearing me say that but most people just guess and don't take the time to check. Wrong water content is the biggest problem people have in this hobby especially for beginners. I had this problem myself.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27093130 - 12/16/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I got soy hull pellets and wood pellets. I also have at least 20 lbs of colonized grain. You wrote: “The sub in the bags needs to be sterilized and cooled to room temp before you put the spawn in.” Does that mean that I first put the sub in PC w/o sealing the bag, when done and cool I mix in the spawn? How long do you PC it for to sterilize? After the bag is colonized and tied bellow the patch – How many and what size X cuts do I make? In another msg you wrote that at this point it’s needs fans for air. Can you elaborate on this? Thanks for all the great help you provide here.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27093245 - 12/16/20 11:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
You can seal the bag but I do not seal it because it might pop. I just fold it. I place it in a pillowcase to protect the bag from the side of the PC especially if you are using a gas stove...
Folding the bags
I PC a 5 lb bag for at least 2.5 hours. You should be able to get four 5 lb bags in a 23 quart presto. you have to make sure you have enough water to last for 2.5 hours so get as much water in the PC as you can without going over the filter patch. I would leave about a 1/2 inch below the patch so the water can boil without going into the patch.
Some people do x's I do not. I cut the bottom of the ba from corner to corner. I do mean the bottom not the bottom on the side. When you fruit you will be fruiting the bag upside down with the bottom of the bag facing up. When you slice the bag do not lift the bag away from the sub you want it tight so pins do not form under the bag. Use as much of the blade as you can not just the tip of the blade. You want almost all of the sharp part of the blade to cut the bag. I hope that makes sense to you.
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (12/16/20 11:52 PM)
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27093271 - 12/16/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I would set up a passive exhaust for my fans. Doing it this way will keep you from blowing spores out of your tent and into your house...

in the above pic when the exhaust kicks on it will automatically cause air to be drawn into your tent through the intake air vent. If you use a flapper the tent must be sealed. If the tent is not completely sealed the flapper will not open because air will be drawn from wherever your tent is not sealed.
You will also need a circulation fan just moving air around 24/7 but not blowing on the mushrooms. In other words, the fan needs to be on all the time.
This is the fans I will be trying out when I need fans. They are way cheaper and are water-resistant. You will need a 12-volt power supply with at least 4 amps to run the fan...
https://www.amazon.com/Attwood-1749-4-Blower-Resistant-4-Inch/dp/B003EX02DA/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA_eb-BRB2EiwAGBnXXjs8Q-9oJZZff09H0v94KztOiYn0CCKTLlUZZeXdM-g9UeWgsMXsvxoCIpQQAvD_BwE&hvadid=323329592074&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9008762&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=18388694415428239271&hvtargid=kwd-298913323126&hydadcr=9440_9900849&keywords=bilge+blower+marine&qid=1608187591&sr=8-6&tag=googhydr-20
|
GoldenDude
Student



Registered: 09/23/20
Posts: 60
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27094259 - 12/17/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I think we are getting somewhere.
I would like this thread to be a thread of "Lions Mane TEK in the MAKING" - thread to talk about, and at some point, to come up with a lions Mane home/small scale cultivation tek.
Personally, at this point, I am interested in experimental proportions of the setup. Get up and running at your home, in your garage, in a spare room, in your showplace - something small. I would like to avoid buying lots of pro hardware, focusing on what people may have at home and cheap things just to establish process, make sure it is what you would really like to do.
A thread to bring people from 0 - Zero to - someone who will know basics and potentially would be interested in bigger scale cultivation.
If i would buy all this hardware, build Laminar Flow Hood, get exhausts, water dispensers, pro CP's, Humidifiers - spending like 1000$+ on something i would like doing just for my own use - thats a bit over the top.
I believe its always easier to upscale rather than starting from top-down.
What do you think, would you be interested in such TEK and conversation?
If not, we can take other direction I like to think of myself as an open minded person 
Peace.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: GoldenDude]
#27094391 - 12/17/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I will help as much as I can just let me know how I can assist.
I have built a kit to make a high-pressure humidification system from a pressure washer it is awesome!! It is cheap also. Anyone interested should PM me. It is the best system out there and no cleaning needed. ultrasonic mist makers don't last long and you have to clan out the water tub too often which is a lot of wasted time and money. The system hooks up with a garden hose so it is very easy. Oh, yea it's 1000 psi.
|
Sometimesitry
Learning
Registered: 03/25/20
Posts: 33
Last seen: 1 month, 7 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27098786 - 12/20/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Following for use later.
|
taku
° shapeshifter ∆



Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 731
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 12 hours, 51 minutes
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: GoldenDude]
#27098894 - 12/20/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
GoldenDude said: I think we are getting somewhere.
I would like this thread to be a thread of "Lions Mane TEK in the MAKING" - thread to talk about, and at some point, to come up with a lions Mane home/small scale cultivation tek.
Personally, at this point, I am interested in experimental proportions of the setup. Get up and running at your home, in your garage, in a spare room, in your showplace - something small. I would like to avoid buying lots of pro hardware, focusing on what people may have at home and cheap things just to establish process, make sure it is what you would really like to do.
A thread to bring people from 0 - Zero to - someone who will know basics and potentially would be interested in bigger scale cultivation.
If i would buy all this hardware, build Laminar Flow Hood, get exhausts, water dispensers, pro CP's, Humidifiers - spending like 1000$+ on something i would like doing just for my own use - thats a bit over the top.
I believe its always easier to upscale rather than starting from top-down.
What do you think, would you be interested in such TEK and conversation?
If not, we can take other direction I like to think of myself as an open minded person 
Peace.
I like this idea. I think the TEK would be best set up with the parameters of what will get your lion's mane growing, and have suggestions of what can make that happen.
So you would provide fruiting conditions that are required, with suggestions on how to do this with a sgfc or a grow tent with humidity controller.
Because everyone will have different stuff at home and different spaces to use and different time available to invest and different access to spawn/substrate materials/etc.
It might be easiest to simply link other forum threads that explain the suggestions (e.g. a link to how to build a sgfc or how to set up a grow tent FC or how to Mix substrate, etc.). That way, it's not cluttered with text and stays focused on the basics of the grow.
--------------------
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: taku]
#27099699 - 12/20/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
SGFC are not for lions main. LM needs to much fresh air to grow properly.
|
taku
° shapeshifter ∆



Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 731
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 12 hours, 51 minutes
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27099878 - 12/20/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Sorry, right. I was just trying to provide an example.
--------------------
|
hantyumi
Confused Cyborg

Registered: 08/09/20
Posts: 2
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: GoldenDude]
#27101765 - 12/21/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I love the idea of a comprehensive TEK for growing lion's mane, as a prospective grower I have some questions on the process so far.
Spore syringe was mentioned for inoculation of grain spawn, is it safe to assume that an agar wedge or LC would also work?
What is the technique for spawning grain to a substrate bag? Does this transfer need to be sterile since we PCed the substrate bag?
|
the man
still masked



Registered: 08/12/99
Posts: 6,681
Loc: C A N A D A
Last seen: 2 hours, 36 minutes
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: hantyumi]
#27101782 - 12/21/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
if u hit up the mainsite here there is TEKs posted under cultivation
yes
only if substrate is nutrient rich. otherwise just pasturized, straw wood coir peat fall into those categories.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: hantyumi]
#27101930 - 12/22/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
hantyumi said: I love the idea of a comprehensive TEK for growing lion's mane, as a prospective grower I have some questions on the process so far.
Spore syringe was mentioned for inoculation of grain spawn, is it safe to assume that an agar wedge or LC would also work?
What is the technique for spawning grain to a substrate bag? Does this transfer need to be sterile since we PCed the substrate bag?
As far as spawn goes your best bet is just to buy a bag of grain spawn from a spawn provider. They are $7.50 for 2.5 lbs throw a gain on 10 or 20 agar petri dishs. Then grain to grain the rest. You will have more spawn than you know what to do with.
Agar or LC both will work to make grain spawn. But I do not trust LC. Agar will show contamination LC most likely will not. So you take a chance with LC.
As the man pointed out if you are supplementing your substrate you must do everything in sterile conditions.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104003 - 12/23/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
After mixing the soy, wood and water do you let it sit for some time or can you PC/sterilize right away?
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27104099 - 12/23/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
You only have to let it sit long enough to soak up the water. So I do 10 bags then I go back to the first bag and fold it and put it in my steamer. So I take one scoop of soy and one scoop of HWFP and put them in the bag then I do that to ten bags then I use my zj-lcd-m 3/4" flow meter to fill my bags with water once the tenth bag is filled the first bag is ready to be folded and placed in the steamer. The heat will make the soy and fuel pellets fall apart easily. I mix nothing until I spawn. I have to mix in the spawn anyway so there is no sense in mixing twice. So I put the spawn in and mix everything through the bag. Meaning I never touch the spawn or the sub I mix through the bag.
This will explain more...
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26632628
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104288 - 12/23/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
So I followed your receipt of 1.2 lbs each soy and wood pellets and 1.8 lit water. They absorbed the water quite fast. I am using a Presto 23 qt PC. I can only fit two bags in it. Am I doing something wrong?
|
taku
° shapeshifter ∆



Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 731
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 12 hours, 51 minutes
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27104309 - 12/23/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
check out freshcap mushrooms youtube channel for how he fits 4 5lb blocks in his 23qt pc.
2 on the bottom side-by-side, two on top same way.
this is the video
--------------------
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: taku] 1
#27104317 - 12/23/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Put your bags in a pillowcase it will protect the bags from melting and you can then push them against the side of the PC. I use a 55-gallon steamer so I don't have to worry about fitting them in a PC. You may have to take some out of each bag to get them to fit. Your bags should weigh 6.25 lbs by my recipe. I think you can fit four 5 lb bags in the PC but not four 6.25 lb bags you will just have to try and find out.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104356 - 12/23/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Next time use 1 lb each of soy and HWFP and then use 3 lbs of water and see where that gets you. You should be close to 5 lbs there.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: taku]
#27104405 - 12/23/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Thanks for the video. My bags are about 6.5 lbs. But I did notice that he let the bags sit in about 2.5" of water. I had raised mine. Had I not raised it I would have probably been able to fit the four of them in.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104411 - 12/23/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
The bags weighed 6:06. I have been using PC for sterilizing bags for a while and never prevent them from touching the sides or top of the pot and have not had a problem. I think the key here of fitting 4 into the PC is to allow the water to come up a bit. Right now I have the steaming tray raised about 2" - 3".
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27104556 - 12/23/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
You must have an electric stove then. I couldn't tell from the pic. But the pillowcase also makes it easier to keep the bags from unfolding when placing them in the PC. You can place them in the pillowcase easy then set them all down into the PC and the folded part will not want to slide up because it is being held by the pillowcase.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104560 - 12/23/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I do have an electric stove.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104563 - 12/23/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I would assume you raised it so you can get more water in and have longer run times. If you buy some washers from lowes or home depot to put more weight on the rocker it will lose a lot less water. I run my steamer for 4 hours and lose maybe a 1/2 inch of water.

|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27104566 - 12/23/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
pitriot said: I do have an electric stove.
With a gas stove, far more heat travels up the sides and gets the sides super hot. If you are not careful you will melt your bags with a gas stove.
|
The Mycologist
Explorer

Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 3,024
Last seen: 29 days, 5 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104567 - 12/23/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
-------------------- "That you are here—that life exists, and identity; That the powerful play goes on, and you will contribute a verse.” ― Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass

|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104576 - 12/23/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I forgot to mention you need a PC with a pressure gauge to add weight to the rocker. If you don't have a pressure gauge you won't know where 15 psi is because the rocker does not rock anymore. I use 5 washers by the way.
|
taku
° shapeshifter ∆



Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 731
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 12 hours, 51 minutes
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27105427 - 12/24/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SHROOMSISAY01 said: I forgot to mention you need a PC with a pressure gauge to add weight to the rocker. If you don't have a pressure gauge you won't know where 15 psi is because the rocker does not rock anymore. I use 5 washers by the way.
Haha I was gonna say...good tip though! Why 4 hours however? I've read mostly 2-2.5hrs
Btw I found a steal of a deal on a 23 presto and it's inbound now. Good's Store out of PA selling them for 99.99 in case anyone is in the market. Was cheaper to buy from them and get it shipped to Canada then buy one in Canada. Code: Welcome10 gets you 10% off as well.
--------------------
Edited by taku (12/24/20 08:39 AM)
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: taku]
#27105906 - 12/24/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
2.5 hours for sub but grains need longer. I would rather waste an hour than waste my time and grain. So I run my grain for 4 hours. I made a high powered hot plate from an old stove I got from craigslist for free and I use a PID and a timer to control it. So I press a button and walk away. No babysitting...




I also have the PC set up so if I am doing agar a loud alarm sounds when the pot reaches 145F so I know my agar is ready to pour and I can concentrate on other things and not have to keep checking the temp to know if it is ready to pour.
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (12/24/20 02:20 PM)
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27105935 - 12/24/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
good info about gas vs electric.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27105937 - 12/24/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I know some people do it with just using a coin!
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27105953 - 12/24/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Just to be clear if you are going to put weight on your rocker you should do a test run by putting a lot of water in the PC and measure the depth of the water. If you do 2.5-hour cycles normally. Run it for 3 hours. Then measure the water and see how much water you lost. Whatever you lost is the depth of the water you needed. I would add a little extra water to be safe of course. Because you will be running your normal cycle 1/2 hour less and you added a little extra water you will not have a problem with running out of water and you will lose a lot less water when running your PC.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27105971 - 12/24/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Yea some people use coins as weight but then you have to tape the coins onto your rocker and then the tape falls off and it is more trouble than it is worth. For under $2 you can just buy fender washers and solve the problem forever. Plus you would have to use quarters that are just as expensive as buying the washers.
|
IdiotCircusBoy
Human Person



Registered: 09/22/20
Posts: 294
Loc:
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27105992 - 12/24/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
SHROOMSISAY01 is spitting some serious wisdom here.
Pillow Cases around Bags
Gas heats up the sides more
-------------------- Just call me Idiot "People hasten to judge in order not to be judged themselves."
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27106345 - 12/24/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
What is the contraption that measures the heat (wired coming from the cover?)?
|
troy_white42
Stranger

Registered: 12/04/20
Posts: 150
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27106388 - 12/24/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I've got a serious drive for LM and figured I'd try oysters too. I've got a serious 45 bag fruit rack I made from 1x1x8s and painters tarp so it was cheap af. Wokring a +/- air pressure fan with a humidifier and running 100 LC bags knocked up in a closet. Also got some agar, slants, and grain growing for round 2 but I'm only a week in so I can't post much for results yet. If this works tbr way my brain thinks it will my setup is fairly cheap and after I fine tune my skills should produce around 150 lbs per fruit cycle. If it works u got room to build 3 more racks and convert another closet to a colonize another 100 bags. So 200 5lb bags colonizing and 135 bags fruiting capacity with a 3lb yield per block comes to 405lbs a fruit.
I'll keep progress and results up on https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27071652/page/1
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27106595 - 12/24/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
pitriot said: What is the contraption that measures the heat (wired coming from the cover?)?
I think you are talking about this...
https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/pcomp4.htm
I switched out the probe that comes with the PID for this...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071KNKY3X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I set my PID to keep the PC at 255F and when it is done it just turns off. As I said before if I am doing agar I flip a switch and when it gets to 145F it will sound an alarm to let me know it is time to pour the agar.
That is a super nice setup at least I think it is. I spend no time babysitting things and more time with my family. If people would just take the time to set thing up right this hobby/business is easy and takes no time to accomplish your goals for the said hobby/business.
|
dodgem
Learner



Registered: 08/04/11
Posts: 2,683
Last seen: 6 months, 13 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27107238 - 12/25/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
--------------------
Walk where you like your steps
|
TonyMushrana
is that a Trich again?



Registered: 03/12/19
Posts: 323
Loc: Mountainly Place
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: dodgem]
#27114499 - 12/29/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
|
|
--------------------
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27116362 - 12/30/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
|
|
Does this work with the Presto?
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: taku]
#27116374 - 12/30/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
|
|
You can put an alert (Keepa) on Amazon's listing and get it for much less. I did it in August and ended up paying $83.36.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27116701 - 12/30/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
pitriot said: Does this work with the Presto?
I don't know if this was directed at me. But I have my PID hooked up to a 23 qt presto. It will work on any PC. But it is best to have a pressure gauge on the PC though. Set the PID to 255F and that should be just a little over 15 psi.
If you are talking about just putting weight on the rocker I would only do it with a PC that has a pressure gauge because the rocker will not rock anymore. So there is no way to know the pressure without a pressure gauge.
You can of course add a pressure gauge to any PC.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27120005 - 01/01/21 09:32 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Is it ok to spawn to bulk (wood/soy hulls) using spawn that has started fruiting? I guess I left it too long in the bag.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27120117 - 01/01/21 10:42 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
yes it is
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27120134 - 01/01/21 10:52 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
My bags are 8" X 5" X 20". Is this correct size for the 5-6 lbs sub?
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27120275 - 01/01/21 12:08 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Yes, mine are 8″X5″X19″ so you will be fine. My bags say 5-7 lbs.
|
pitriot
Stranger


Registered: 06/16/19
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 months, 4 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27120388 - 01/01/21 01:05 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
seems so tight in them and hard to mix well.
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms


Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27120702 - 01/01/21 04:12 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Tie the bag at the very top. Then pour down the long side and keep flipping the bag repeating the process.
|
Kuda1988
Stranger
Registered: 04/23/21
Posts: 130
Last seen: 8 months, 16 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27911558 - 08/20/22 04:52 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SHROOMSISAY01 said: For sub use 50/50 soy hulls/Hardwood fuel pellets and if you can only get it down to 75F just grow them there you will still get fruit. Those numbers are for optimal temps.
So you measure out 50/50 soy hull and hardwood pellets . And mix these all together then hydrate , then PC?
Do you need to do anything special when mixing them like some sort of pasturization ? Or just soak them all together for the appropriate time and mix them as best as possible before pc
--------------------
|
idiotsecant


Registered: 05/15/22
Posts: 17
Last seen: 6 months, 12 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: Kuda1988]
#27911928 - 08/20/22 10:44 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Why would you need to pasteurize if you're putting them in the pressure cooker?
|
Kuda1988
Stranger
Registered: 04/23/21
Posts: 130
Last seen: 8 months, 16 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: idiotsecant]
#27912056 - 08/21/22 04:58 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
idiotsecant said: Why would you need to pasteurize if you're putting them in the pressure cooker?
I understand that would be irrelevant , but maybe would help mix the contents thoroughly . Basically I’m just asking what the mixing process looks like.
--------------------
|
idiotsecant


Registered: 05/15/22
Posts: 17
Last seen: 6 months, 12 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: Kuda1988]
#27912170 - 08/21/22 08:43 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
|
|
You can do your best to mix in the pre-sterilization stage, but the really thorough mixing typically comes when you mix in spawn. I like to mix dry, then apply water, which usually ends up with some parts being more wet than others, then doing the moisture distribution with the spawn.
|
Kuda1988
Stranger
Registered: 04/23/21
Posts: 130
Last seen: 8 months, 16 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: idiotsecant]
#27912212 - 08/21/22 09:24 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Alright I’m really confused .
Are we not ...
Mixing the 50/50 hardwood and soy hull
Hydrating it
Sterilizing it
Then dropping colonized agar wedges in SAB
Then fruiting chamber once fully colonized ?
--------------------
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms



Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: Kuda1988]
#27914942 - 08/23/22 10:09 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
|
|
You got the process wrong first you fill the bag with soy hulls and fuel pellets give the bag a little shake then you put in the water I keep doing this until I have 10 or so bags open on my desk. Then I go back to the 1st bag that has now absorbed most of the water fold the bag and put it in the steamer and run the cycle. I let the bags cool then I put spawn in the bags and seal with a reclosable zip tie. Because it has been through the steam cycle the pellets will fall apart like nothing. Now you mix the spawn in through the bag. Doing it this way will save you the time of mixing twice.
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Releasable-cable-50LBS-100pcs/dp/B004C4ZRIK/ref=sr_1_4?crid=IRWXSDMFOUDC&keywords=monoprice+zip+ties&qid=1661270917&s=industrial&sprefix=monoprice+zip%2Cindustrial%2C115&sr=1-4
look in my sig for how to get the water content to 60% every time easily.
|
idiotsecant


Registered: 05/15/22
Posts: 17
Last seen: 6 months, 12 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: Kuda1988]
#27915689 - 08/23/22 08:30 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kuda1988 said: Alright I’m really confused .
Are we not ...
Mixing the 50/50 hardwood and soy hull
Hydrating it
Sterilizing it
Then dropping colonized agar wedges in SAB
Then fruiting chamber once fully colonized ?
This will result in a very slow colonization but will probably work. I like to colonize ryeberries first, then dump ryeberries into sterilized wood block. Mix thoroughly.
This gives you a ton of inoculation points instead of just one - it makes your block colonize faster which is nice on it's own but that speed also helps to outcompete any potential contamination that might be present in the block.
|
Kuda1988
Stranger
Registered: 04/23/21
Posts: 130
Last seen: 8 months, 16 days
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: idiotsecant]
#27923279 - 08/28/22 10:36 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Gotya so your colonizing grain first( rye berries is this case ) then dumping em in the sterilized soy hull / pellets bags .
Def seems more effective as far as nocc points , though I thought the whole point of colonizing on wood/ sawdust was because LM doesn’t do well on rye berries / birdseed etc
Does it just fruit better from the sawdust ?
--------------------
|
SHROOMSISAY01
Mr. Shrooms



Registered: 01/22/17
Posts: 3,849
Loc: Virginia, USA
Last seen: 2 days, 16 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: Kuda1988]
#27923480 - 08/29/22 03:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Rye berries are outrageously priced! Use whole oats or millet as your grain spawn. I use a 50/50 mixture of the two by weight.
|
taku
° shapeshifter ∆



Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 731
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 12 hours, 51 minutes
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27923617 - 08/29/22 07:24 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
|
|
The LM will colonize the rye just fine, but to grow the mushrooms they'll go crazy on 50/50 soy/hwfp.
--------------------
|
Cispania
Stranger
Registered: 08/31/22
Posts: 1
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: taku]
#27928160 - 08/31/22 08:15 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I am fruiting lions mane on locally sourced hardwood sawdust. I get it from a cabinet maker for a 6 pack of beer.
|
Shu
Vote for Humanity



Registered: 11/20/11
Posts: 885
Loc: PA, USA
Last seen: 11 days, 21 hours
|
Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27945265 - 09/11/22 12:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SHROOMSISAY01 said: Rye berries are outrageously priced! Use whole oats or millet as your grain spawn. I use a 50/50 mixture of the two by weight.
I've tried a mixture and find the millet gets greasy. Do you hydrate them separately?
|
|