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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27091407 - 12/15/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey dropping in here cuz this is a great thread and I have been having a hard time getting lion's mane to go well. Already ordered some of those bags and some soy hulls.
What's the difference in yields with the tent vs just room humidity? I'm wondering if that's the key I'm looking for.
I have finally gotten my first (tiny) fruit on my 3rd attempt here. It was so delicious I really want to get more and bigger fruits!
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: RamJam] 1
#27091488 - 12/16/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am sure low humidity will decrease the yield because the fruit will be dryer and they will not look as healthy. The best thing you can do to increase yield is to supplement with soy hulls but it looks like you will be doing that soon. Don't forget to make sure you have the right water content in your sub (check my sig). I am sure people are getting tired of hearing me say that but most people just guess and don't take the time to check. Wrong water content is the biggest problem people have in this hobby especially for beginners. I had this problem myself.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27093130 - 12/16/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got soy hull pellets and wood pellets. I also have at least 20 lbs of colonized grain. You wrote: “The sub in the bags needs to be sterilized and cooled to room temp before you put the spawn in.” Does that mean that I first put the sub in PC w/o sealing the bag, when done and cool I mix in the spawn? How long do you PC it for to sterilize? After the bag is colonized and tied bellow the patch – How many and what size X cuts do I make? In another msg you wrote that at this point it’s needs fans for air. Can you elaborate on this? Thanks for all the great help you provide here.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27093245 - 12/16/20 11:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can seal the bag but I do not seal it because it might pop. I just fold it. I place it in a pillowcase to protect the bag from the side of the PC especially if you are using a gas stove...
Folding the bags
I PC a 5 lb bag for at least 2.5 hours. You should be able to get four 5 lb bags in a 23 quart presto. you have to make sure you have enough water to last for 2.5 hours so get as much water in the PC as you can without going over the filter patch. I would leave about a 1/2 inch below the patch so the water can boil without going into the patch.
Some people do x's I do not. I cut the bottom of the ba from corner to corner. I do mean the bottom not the bottom on the side. When you fruit you will be fruiting the bag upside down with the bottom of the bag facing up. When you slice the bag do not lift the bag away from the sub you want it tight so pins do not form under the bag. Use as much of the blade as you can not just the tip of the blade. You want almost all of the sharp part of the blade to cut the bag. I hope that makes sense to you.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27093271 - 12/16/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would set up a passive exhaust for my fans. Doing it this way will keep you from blowing spores out of your tent and into your house...

in the above pic when the exhaust kicks on it will automatically cause air to be drawn into your tent through the intake air vent. If you use a flapper the tent must be sealed. If the tent is not completely sealed the flapper will not open because air will be drawn from wherever your tent is not sealed.
You will also need a circulation fan just moving air around 24/7 but not blowing on the mushrooms. In other words, the fan needs to be on all the time.
This is the fans I will be trying out when I need fans. They are way cheaper and are water-resistant. You will need a 12-volt power supply with at least 4 amps to run the fan...
https://www.amazon.com/Attwood-1749-4-Blower-Resistant-4-Inch/dp/B003EX02DA/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA_eb-BRB2EiwAGBnXXjs8Q-9oJZZff09H0v94KztOiYn0CCKTLlUZZeXdM-g9UeWgsMXsvxoCIpQQAvD_BwE&hvadid=323329592074&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9008762&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=18388694415428239271&hvtargid=kwd-298913323126&hydadcr=9440_9900849&keywords=bilge+blower+marine&qid=1608187591&sr=8-6&tag=googhydr-20
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27094259 - 12/17/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think we are getting somewhere.
I would like this thread to be a thread of "Lions Mane TEK in the MAKING" - thread to talk about, and at some point, to come up with a lions Mane home/small scale cultivation tek.
Personally, at this point, I am interested in experimental proportions of the setup. Get up and running at your home, in your garage, in a spare room, in your showplace - something small. I would like to avoid buying lots of pro hardware, focusing on what people may have at home and cheap things just to establish process, make sure it is what you would really like to do.
A thread to bring people from 0 - Zero to - someone who will know basics and potentially would be interested in bigger scale cultivation.
If i would buy all this hardware, build Laminar Flow Hood, get exhausts, water dispensers, pro CP's, Humidifiers - spending like 1000$+ on something i would like doing just for my own use - thats a bit over the top.
I believe its always easier to upscale rather than starting from top-down.
What do you think, would you be interested in such TEK and conversation?
If not, we can take other direction I like to think of myself as an open minded person 
Peace.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: GoldenDude]
#27094391 - 12/17/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I will help as much as I can just let me know how I can assist.
I have built a kit to make a high-pressure humidification system from a pressure washer it is awesome!! It is cheap also. Anyone interested should PM me. It is the best system out there and no cleaning needed. ultrasonic mist makers don't last long and you have to clan out the water tub too often which is a lot of wasted time and money. The system hooks up with a garden hose so it is very easy. Oh, yea it's 1000 psi.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27098786 - 12/20/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Following for use later.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: GoldenDude]
#27098894 - 12/20/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
GoldenDude said: I think we are getting somewhere.
I would like this thread to be a thread of "Lions Mane TEK in the MAKING" - thread to talk about, and at some point, to come up with a lions Mane home/small scale cultivation tek.
Personally, at this point, I am interested in experimental proportions of the setup. Get up and running at your home, in your garage, in a spare room, in your showplace - something small. I would like to avoid buying lots of pro hardware, focusing on what people may have at home and cheap things just to establish process, make sure it is what you would really like to do.
A thread to bring people from 0 - Zero to - someone who will know basics and potentially would be interested in bigger scale cultivation.
If i would buy all this hardware, build Laminar Flow Hood, get exhausts, water dispensers, pro CP's, Humidifiers - spending like 1000$+ on something i would like doing just for my own use - thats a bit over the top.
I believe its always easier to upscale rather than starting from top-down.
What do you think, would you be interested in such TEK and conversation?
If not, we can take other direction I like to think of myself as an open minded person 
Peace.
I like this idea. I think the TEK would be best set up with the parameters of what will get your lion's mane growing, and have suggestions of what can make that happen.
So you would provide fruiting conditions that are required, with suggestions on how to do this with a sgfc or a grow tent with humidity controller.
Because everyone will have different stuff at home and different spaces to use and different time available to invest and different access to spawn/substrate materials/etc.
It might be easiest to simply link other forum threads that explain the suggestions (e.g. a link to how to build a sgfc or how to set up a grow tent FC or how to Mix substrate, etc.). That way, it's not cluttered with text and stays focused on the basics of the grow.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: taku]
#27099699 - 12/20/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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SGFC are not for lions main. LM needs to much fresh air to grow properly.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27099878 - 12/20/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry, right. I was just trying to provide an example.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: GoldenDude]
#27101765 - 12/21/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love the idea of a comprehensive TEK for growing lion's mane, as a prospective grower I have some questions on the process so far.
Spore syringe was mentioned for inoculation of grain spawn, is it safe to assume that an agar wedge or LC would also work?
What is the technique for spawning grain to a substrate bag? Does this transfer need to be sterile since we PCed the substrate bag?
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: hantyumi]
#27101782 - 12/21/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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if u hit up the mainsite here there is TEKs posted under cultivation
yes
only if substrate is nutrient rich. otherwise just pasturized, straw wood coir peat fall into those categories.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: hantyumi]
#27101930 - 12/22/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
hantyumi said: I love the idea of a comprehensive TEK for growing lion's mane, as a prospective grower I have some questions on the process so far.
Spore syringe was mentioned for inoculation of grain spawn, is it safe to assume that an agar wedge or LC would also work?
What is the technique for spawning grain to a substrate bag? Does this transfer need to be sterile since we PCed the substrate bag?
As far as spawn goes your best bet is just to buy a bag of grain spawn from a spawn provider. They are $7.50 for 2.5 lbs throw a gain on 10 or 20 agar petri dishs. Then grain to grain the rest. You will have more spawn than you know what to do with.
Agar or LC both will work to make grain spawn. But I do not trust LC. Agar will show contamination LC most likely will not. So you take a chance with LC.
As the man pointed out if you are supplementing your substrate you must do everything in sterile conditions.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104003 - 12/23/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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After mixing the soy, wood and water do you let it sit for some time or can you PC/sterilize right away?
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27104099 - 12/23/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You only have to let it sit long enough to soak up the water. So I do 10 bags then I go back to the first bag and fold it and put it in my steamer. So I take one scoop of soy and one scoop of HWFP and put them in the bag then I do that to ten bags then I use my zj-lcd-m 3/4" flow meter to fill my bags with water once the tenth bag is filled the first bag is ready to be folded and placed in the steamer. The heat will make the soy and fuel pellets fall apart easily. I mix nothing until I spawn. I have to mix in the spawn anyway so there is no sense in mixing twice. So I put the spawn in and mix everything through the bag. Meaning I never touch the spawn or the sub I mix through the bag.
This will explain more...
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26632628
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104288 - 12/23/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I followed your receipt of 1.2 lbs each soy and wood pellets and 1.8 lit water. They absorbed the water quite fast. I am using a Presto 23 qt PC. I can only fit two bags in it. Am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: pitriot]
#27104309 - 12/23/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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check out freshcap mushrooms youtube channel for how he fits 4 5lb blocks in his 23qt pc.
2 on the bottom side-by-side, two on top same way.
this is the video
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: taku] 1
#27104317 - 12/23/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Put your bags in a pillowcase it will protect the bags from melting and you can then push them against the side of the PC. I use a 55-gallon steamer so I don't have to worry about fitting them in a PC. You may have to take some out of each bag to get them to fit. Your bags should weigh 6.25 lbs by my recipe. I think you can fit four 5 lb bags in the PC but not four 6.25 lb bags you will just have to try and find out.
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Re: Best Lions Mane TEK - what is it? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27104356 - 12/23/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Next time use 1 lb each of soy and HWFP and then use 3 lbs of water and see where that gets you. You should be close to 5 lbs there.
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