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OfflineACTSmokey
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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: MuckPeddler]
    #28076650 - 11/30/22 05:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I am just a noob here working my way towards healing too.

Too often we read of people taking large doses and having amazing trips. Reading their stories made me feel like I needed to follow what they were doing. Nope, bad idea, it didn't work out, I'm just too damn sensitive to drugs and mushrooms proved to be no different.

I like the microdoses 0.2 to 0.3 dry works wonders for me. I go into nice meditative states and can control what happens. Sometimes I have incredible insights, and that makes me happy.

Sadly, when I go higher than 1 gram dry I just don't have control over what I experience (excessive uncontrolled thinking) and I suffer with a heavy body load (extreme physical discomfort) and that builds into anxiety. So now I stick to my microdoses and I'm very happy to continue with them.

My advice for newbies is to start low and work towards your optimal dose. If you do a larger dose then build up to it, and have a sitter or coach with you. Most importantly don't think you need to be a hero.


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"My heart hath followed all my days, something I cannot name." - Don Marquis.

"Wow, things sure look different now. How much of this shit did I take?"


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OfflineExcess Taters
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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: ACTSmokey]
    #28076753 - 11/30/22 06:22 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't say we have too many of those stories, all those stories exist because they happened.  With that said, nobody should just jump in the deep end without knowing how their body responds to things.  1g to acquaint yourself, 2gs to actually have a tiny trip, 3gs for an adventure, 4+ for the brave on their best days.  Beyond that, the mind matters so much with these drugs, if you're just trying to use them to fix a problem out of a desperation, your odds aren't that great.  It could work out, but you're not really setting yourself up for success. 

What needs to be done, is to make sure you have proper set and setting.  Set might as well be short for mindset, your mind needs to be in the right spot for an adventure.  You can't have fears lingering under the surface waiting to jump out of the water and go Jaws on your small boat.  I mean, you can have some of those things, but none of those life shattering ones.  Your mind needs to be in the right place, your comfort needs to be assured.  You need to be very confident in what you're doing, you should have had a successful week where you feel some measure of accomplishment.

If you have anxiety, that can easily be amplified by a trip, but to be clear, that will not always happen.  Different circumstances will allow for different experiences.  Perhaps if you had someone you trusted completely and you were completely comfortable with them, that would be enough to offset the anxiety.  Long story short though, if you're going on a trip, make sure the waters are calm and the skies are clear, otherwise you might end up in some big waves. 

Setting is obviously just your surroundings, you need to be in a situation you're comfortable with, ideally with things to do that will bring you comfort.  If you just explore your mind, that's fine, but you might as well have some "Get out of my head free" cards.  This would be a psychedelic movie, or youtube channels, or a pet that you love who will hang with you.

If you do everything right, you should never really have a bad experience, things may go dark here or there, but the overall trip will, at least in my experience, always be awesome.  With that said, if you experience such issues with 1g, which for me is slightly noticeable but less trippy than 1/4th a joint, perhaps you just have a very unique reaction to this.


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OfflineACTSmokey
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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: Excess Taters]
    #28078234 - 12/01/22 02:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Excess Taters said:
If you do everything right, you should never really have a bad experience, things may go dark here or there, but the overall trip will, at least in my experience, always be awesome.  With that said, if you experience such issues with 1g, which for me is slightly noticeable but less trippy than 1/4th a joint, perhaps you just have a very unique reaction to this.




Excess Taters, good post. I am so sensitive to even microdoses that once it kicks in I can't even stand up, I have to lie down and ride it out. There is no way I could go shopping or even take a walk in the park - it's a pain.


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"My heart hath followed all my days, something I cannot name." - Don Marquis.

"Wow, things sure look different now. How much of this shit did I take?"


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OfflineExcess Taters
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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: ACTSmokey]
    #28078256 - 12/01/22 02:39 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I'm sad that's your experience, but I'm glad you've found a path towards being able to enjoy this.


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The next move is Shoebox Tek. After that you move onto grains, agar, monotubs.  Agar is easy, just do it.
Other useful links - Picture guide for how things should look and proper surface conditions guide
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OfflineACTSmokey
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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: Excess Taters]
    #28078267 - 12/01/22 02:45 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Excess Taters said:
I'm sad that's your experience, but I'm glad you've found a path towards being able to enjoy this.




It took a bit of trial and error to work out my best dose but I've accepted it and it is ideal for my meditations. If I bong first I can take larger doses, in fact it's very nice, but the green stuff is hard to get where I am.


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"My heart hath followed all my days, something I cannot name." - Don Marquis.

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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: MuckPeddler]
    #28498230 - 10/09/23 09:11 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I made up some microdosing capsules for a friend of mine recently. They are on average .13 g of dried cubensis, average strength. My friend is psilocybin resistant.  I took two of them to test them yesterday.  For background, I take macro doses about every three or four months to reset myself. I normally take about 3 g of these when I do.

I was surprised to feel them, but I did.  Not much, and I could have handled anything, but it was comfortable to sit and relax for three hours and process.  At four hours I was clear.

Today, the next day, I feel clear and relaxed like I do after a larger does.  I may use three or four of those the next time I want a soft reset.


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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: OldManRiver]
    #28500610 - 10/11/23 07:13 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

I've read some instructions on microdosing, but does anyone have a method of integrating micro and macro doses? I'm assuming you would want to stop microdosing for 10-14 days before trying to have an actual experience?


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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: McKennasMoustache]
    #28501174 - 10/12/23 04:58 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

For much less bodyload, there are many anecdotal reports of pan cyan and natalensis


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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: OldManRiver]
    #28504013 - 10/14/23 05:33 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

I was asking this question recently and from what I gathered a microdose isnt going to have any significant effect on your macrodose.


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Re: Tripping to help depression etc? [Re: DoomShroom420]
    #28504039 - 10/14/23 06:28 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Psilocybin got me off of anti-depressants, for real. I was on them for years in my late teens through early twenties. It got to the point where I thought that I 'needed' them so even if I was having a good day and then remembered I didn't take my meds or whatever, I'd worry and start to spin out. Haha Overthinking was half of my problem and putting a stick in my own spokes which, I believe, is many folks problem. Very, very rarely is someone 'naturally' prone to depression and anxiety - has a lot to do with the story we tell ourselves or what we expect (or feel entitled to!) life to mean (or hand us). That being said, just knowing it mentally isn't always going to be enough since it's an emotional foundation that may have had years to take root - usually needs a shock of reality; whether that be euphoric joy or nightmarish terror, all equally powerful with the right perspective. Tryptamines have this gift of showing you what you need to see or feel. Not always fun but, like I said, with the right perspective and sincere honesty, it's priceless. Also has a way of 'resetting' the receptors and shakes out some conditioned responses to situations and events etc.

Anyhoo, microdosing isn't for me but for some, it helps. I found that one large, heavy trip every few months was enough. For those who microdose, it's recommended to take a threshold dose for a few days, skip a few days, and continue to keep tolerance at bay. Also, and this goes for macro dosing as well, taking them at night is the key ime. Always at night. Seems the hustle and bustle and the busybody human vibes intrude upon me when I've tried daytripping - too many worries and neurosis' floating in the air - wait until people are vegging out and the atmosphere quiets down. Haha


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