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Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow?
#27075697 - 12/06/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I got a grow kit from Midwest, and I opened the box and realized... I could have gotten this all for about half the price. I haven't started growing yet. but is it possible to salvage this? I was thinking maybe I could use the jars to inoculate, then spawn to bulk when colonized using 100% coco coir and hope for the best. If nothing else, reuse the jars and tub and follow a tek here? Thanks in advance for any advice <3
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: fancdew15]
#27075712 - 12/06/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The spores are probably salvageable with some agar, and they might work outright, but I'd be skeptical about anything in there.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: Ballzagna]
#27075852 - 12/06/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Honestly I don't really have much knowledge on agar, but the spores are still in their syringe. So would you recommend tossing what's in the jars and starting fresh?
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: fancdew15]
#27075866 - 12/06/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It doesn’t mean that it won’t work just because you over paid.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: fancdew15]
#27075921 - 12/06/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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fancdew15 said: Honestly I don't really have much knowledge on agar, but the spores are still in their syringe. So would you recommend tossing what's in the jars and starting fresh?
I could answer better if you gave more details on the contents of the kit and what they intend for you to do with it
Agar can be intimidating, don't let it be. It's actually super fun and makes it feel more sciencey.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: Ballzagna]
#27076003 - 12/06/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So it's a growkit from Midwest, their cheapest one. It has:
- 6 ½ pint substrate Jars- Pressure sterilized and supposedly ready to grow
- A regular Sterilite plastic tub (I think ~9 quart)
- Thermometer with Hygrometer/humidity gauge
- LED Battery Light
- 110V LED Plug-in Grow Light
- 1 Gallon of Perlite
- Latex Gloves
- Alcohol swabs
They say to inoculate using an oven with an open door at 250-275F, wait for 100% colonization, then birth the cakes, dunk them, then put them on the damp perlite inside the tub
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: JimmyMcGoo]
#27076011 - 12/06/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fair point, but I think that the risk of contamination will be way higher.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: fancdew15]
#27076027 - 12/06/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The oven shit is pointless. Either use an SAB or do it in open air. If you do it in open air just flame the needle until red and only cool right before you inject.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27076038 - 12/06/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Absolutely agree, I wasn't planning on doing that anyways, just open air.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: fancdew15]
#27076064 - 12/06/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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There isn’t a price point on success. If there was, then somebody would have a tek for it, lol. You have what you have so use it and learn along the way.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: Ballzagna]
#27076151 - 12/06/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ballzagna said: Agar can be intimidating, don't let it be. It's actually super fun and makes it feel more sciencey.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976
Just wanted to second this. I'm a pretty new grower (a couple of mediocre cake grows) but I just got started with agar and I wish I'd started it sooner. Takes some practice to get the sterile technique down but it's not too difficult and there are a bunch videos here showing what to do.
Go buy a big tote for a SAB and whatever else you need for Pastyplates and get cracking. Put some of your spores to plates, use the rest to inoculate your jars. While you're waiting for your spores to do their thing, read up on what to do next.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: adhoc]
#27076223 - 12/06/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Might as well try the grow kit, but save a little bit of the syringe for agar if you decide to go that route in the future. Or if you do get mushrooms out of it you can take spore prints or clones and go from there with agar.
Check out some more info on PF tek, that's essentially what the kit is having you do.
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Re: Bought a grow kit, bad idea; can I save it pre-grow? [Re: Ballzagna] 1
#27081210 - 12/09/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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For anyone interested in tracking the progress, just inoculated today, doing well so far!
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