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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: SleepyE] 2
#27075562 - 12/06/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I haven't had a 100mg rip of changa for maybe 2 years, which was my go to dose for so long. But the other week while on acid I had maybe 5 X 50mg hits in a row slowly pushing deeper and deeper into that place. There was no fear or darkness. I didn't think I was dead, it was just a series of mini movies of fantastical images. Was pretty pleased with how it went actually.
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Northerner]
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: SleepyE]
#27075569 - 12/06/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah as with anything, weigh the possible risks against the possible benefits. Me personally, seen no risks at all for me, aside from it just being intense and powerful stuff and needing to be able to handle it. But i can see where for some people it'd be risky. I've seen nothing but benefits from it. Man, i really miss my experimentation though, best time of my life for damn sure lol. One day i hope to get back to it again.
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Sabnock]
#27075571 - 12/06/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: SleepyE]
#27075575 - 12/06/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you please link to his original paper OP.
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: pineninja] 1
#27075584 - 12/06/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: SleepyE] 5
#27075696 - 12/06/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im quite confused.. he says they have to give the H+A cocktail (halo and ativan) to patients who are trying to kill nurses and doctors etc. etc. because they are so high on DMT. But DMT is so short lived, there's no way one could smoke it, get to the hospital, be put in a bed and still be tripping. And he never mentioned MAOI's, and the whole other potential world that opens up. He also says they never gave anyone DMT for tests.
So where is this experience he's having at the children's hospital treating young adults for DMT "overdoses" coming from? This whole article has so many holes in it.
I'm also not a DMT freak by any means, and I absolutely believe that it causes long term changes in people who abuse it a lot. I've met people who have smoked so much DMT they are absolutely out of touch and have a very "cold, spacelike, far away" demeanor to them. So it definitely causes long term effects. Are these negative or beneficial? I don't know, all these people are poly users, so it's hard to tell.
Anyway, I'd like to see the research that shows all these claims he's making about the receptor sites and their functioning.
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Typerwritermonky] 1
#27075723 - 12/06/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: SleepyE] 2
#27075760 - 12/06/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some people that are incredibly intelligent have very backwards views about some things. I know some very intelligent people, especially intelligent with biological and medical stuff, and they will say stuff about psychedelics that is clearly just based on intuition. Stuff like 'no, it can drive you insane, in fact my friends told me they knew a guy who... (insert acid urban legend repeated by kids since the 60s)'
I would trust the people who have done extensive work with DMT over this guy. I rarely fear taking psychedelics because so many beautiful minds have enjoyed them and exited just as eloquent and intelligent and compassionate as before, if not then with these traits deepened.
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: jdawg333] 2
#27075764 - 12/06/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: SleepyE] 7
#27075802 - 12/06/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just because he's a neuroscientist doesn't prevent him from spouting nonsense or speaking to something with which he has no direct knowledge or experience. My advice is to take what he said with a grain of salt.
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Nature Boy]
#27075810 - 12/06/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Nature Boy] 3
#27075867 - 12/06/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've taken 100s of DMT doses, 1000's of doses of other psychedelics, 10,000's of doses of stimulants and I'm definitely not head fucked. I still study consistently, work a highly technical job, am a home owner, a carer for a disabled family member, a parent for 3 teenagers... yet somehow I'm supposed to be brain damaged? Heck, you wouldn't even know I take psychedelics unless I tell you.
Just doesn't seem to add up. Or neuroscience isn't all that it thinks it is. Or I was fucking Einstein beforehand and my shocking poly drug use over the last 25 years has made me normal.
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Northerner] 1
#27075931 - 12/06/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes I think the DMT halved your previous IQ of 200
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Northerner]
#27075982 - 12/06/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I haven't read about DMT or other typical psychedelics causing brain damage in a physical sense. Can they contribute to a mental breakdown and or psychotic episodes? Absolutely, but that's not the same thing... having looked for anything on his claims about DMT brain damage I couldn't find something to support it seems likely his work isn't really related to DMT so even though he's in neuroscience (allegedly) he might just not know that much about it
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Northerner] 1
#27075983 - 12/06/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: Ezuma]
#27076018 - 12/06/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: SleepyE] 4
#27076135 - 12/06/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
SleepyE said: But it is destroying your brain and never forget that ANY DMT preparation will always be impure...
And It is possible, but unlikely. You have to understand it is like playing roulette at a casino. On any given day, you (as in general) could decide you want to die, for whatever purpose. Or, you could decide to meditate on your visions. It all depends on subconscious thoughts. The subconscious is dangerous when accessed and even the best psychiatrists touch the subconscious with great care as it is beyond fragile. DMT brings the subconscious into the conscious.
I'll give you a second opinion. This "doctor" is an idiot when it comes to psychedelics.
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: PrimalSoup]
#27076171 - 12/06/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Neuroscientist said DMT is too dangerous to use or study [Re: SleepyE] 3
#27076256 - 12/06/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I went to a psychiatrist once, the first thing he wanted to do was get me eating SSRIs and get me off psychedelics. After 3 sessions of me refusing to take the "medicine" the "doctor" refused to see me anymore. Apparently having a massive workload and care load isn't pertinent, that a person wants to learn better coping skills in an ever increasingly complex world isn't a valid reason for seeing a health care professional. It's just that you take the fucking pills. Modern psychiatry is a sham.
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