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shadyshroomie's First Grow Log
#27074661 - 12/06/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Edited by shadyshroomie (02/01/21 05:16 PM)
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27077458 - 12/07/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Let me know how the JMF turns out. I inculcated one 3lb bag with JMF and another with aa+. The JMF had obvious contams after a week and half. Aa+ is just about done and looking great. I’m interested in the JMF
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: Exstortion]
#27077851 - 12/07/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Exstortion said: Let me know how the JMF turns out. I inculcated one 3lb bag with JMF and another with aa+. The JMF had obvious contams after a week and half. Aa+ is just about done and looking great. I’m interested in the JMF
Most definitely.
I finished inoculating the 24 spawn bags. I kinda fucking hate syringes.
I had several get clogged, or I just do not know how the fuck to use them. I got to the point where I could not push the syringe down AT ALL
I ended up fucking with the syringes so much, outside the bag, inside the bag, etc.
I would not be surprised if only like 10 bags get through colonization. This is making me second guess doing an LC...
I planned on doing a flow hood for agar work anyways, so perhaps I can just build a larger one than intended to have enough space for G2G and the height of the bags I would use
Edit 12/7: As edited in OP... decided to get a pressure cooker and make own spawn bags, and will probably do Agar>Grain and G2G
Edited by shadyshroomie (12/07/20 11:21 PM)
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27077893 - 12/07/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Noticed this yellow shit in one of my jars. This is from the modified SuperCake formula SuperCake with only the yeast, pollen, flax, and coconut flakes
Is this just metabolites/tinted water from bee pollen/yeast or cause for concern?
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27077900 - 12/07/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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looks like possible mycellium piss aka metabolites. sometimes this can be a sign of possible contamination, but it's not always sometimes it occurs when a substrate is over saturated. i say keep going but isolate to be safe.
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: kanemush]
#27077913 - 12/07/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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kanemush said: looks like possible mycellium piss aka metabolites. sometimes this can be a sign of possible contamination, but it's not always sometimes it occurs when a substrate is over saturated. i say keep going but isolate to be safe.
Dope. Yeah I think there is too much moisture in the jars. I noticed that with the last cakes too. The verm I used is much finer than usual I believe, and I found to get it to field capacity took a lot more water than the 2:1:1 it was probably like 2:1:1.3 or 1.4. I do not see myself doing BRF cakes so fuck em... haha
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27077925 - 12/07/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here are some close-ups taken today

Edited by shadyshroomie (12/07/20 10:15 PM)
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27078225 - 12/08/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think your jars are ok. If it’s a contam it will spread like crazy quick so just keep a eye on them. Do you make your bags or do you order them from a vendor? I’m trying to find a vendor that is not too expensive. I just ordered yesterday JMF LC, white teacher LC, and B+ LC. So, I gotta order some bags and jars ASAP. I never used LC. I still have a JMF ms syringe but ordered the LC because I read it takes 10-14 days. You are using LC. How long is it taking for your bags to colonize?
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: Exstortion]
#27078396 - 12/08/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Exstortion said: I think your jars are ok. If it’s a contam it will spread like crazy quick so just keep a eye on them. Do you make your bags or do you order them from a vendor? I’m trying to find a vendor that is not too expensive. I just ordered yesterday JMF LC, white teacher LC, and B+ LC. So, I gotta order some bags and jars ASAP. I never used LC. I still have a JMF ms syringe but ordered the LC because I read it takes 10-14 days. You are using LC. How long is it taking for your bags to colonize?
I am not using LC yet. Not sure if I will end up or not. I order from a vendor, but I am going to start making my own and save money to spend on other shit haha. Will likely always buy vendor substrate.
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27078466 - 12/08/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was buying vendor substrate along with my bags and jars. My problem was I didn’t have freezer space to store them so I don’t wanna chance using it. I looked up the bucket tek. Coco coir and vermiculite. I have vermiculite and coir is mad cheap $8 for 3 bricks at petco. The bucket tek seems very easy and simple. So I gonna make this substrate 2 days before I mix it with my spawn.
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: Exstortion]
#27079049 - 12/08/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am going to re-write a post I had made with an idea for a new TEK? It is essentially a Martha style monotub?
The basic idea is to use a 5 tier plastic storage shelving unit to create stacked monotubs to fruit shoeboxes/trays in Cover the sides of shelving in woven greenhouse covering

Cut holes along the bottom of the long sides, and top of the short sides Stuff with polyfill Run a fan in the closet with the shelving unit and a humidifier to keep humidity up Figure out a method to open up one side of the greenhouse covering such as lining with resealable velcro plastic tape This would allow easy access to trays/shoeboxes Each level to the shelving unit would essentially function as a monotub
If RH is an issue, you could use plastic baseboard to create a pan at each level, then put damp perlite in this pan If the venting of the shelves is too large, you could easily get a mesh cover to hold perlite If doing this, then the hole chamber would have airflow through it I do not see why this would not work
Why not use monotubs? Because for less than $40-50 you can get basically 4 monotubs that serve as constant fruiting environments You do not have to have a ton of space taken up by tubs in colonization You simply have your trays/shoeboxes colonizing and dedicated fruiting chambers made with the shelving unit
If this does not make sense I can creat a drawing to illustrate it. But essentially it is a Martha style type tent that uses monotub principles to create a FC for trays/shoeboxes
It saves space compared to monotubs, and allows you to cycle in an out trays of the pseudo monotub if needed With a large monotub if your grow gets fucked its all fucked. One showbox getting fucked is not the end of the world
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: Exstortion]
#27079052 - 12/08/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Exstortion said: I was buying vendor substrate along with my bags and jars. My problem was I didn’t have freezer space to store them so I don’t wanna chance using it. I looked up the bucket tek. Coco coir and vermiculite. I have vermiculite and coir is mad cheap $8 for 3 bricks at petco. The bucket tek seems very easy and simple. So I gonna make this substrate 2 days before I mix it with my spawn.
How did you like the vendor substrate?
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27079089 - 12/08/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It worked. I bought 20lbs and only used 5lbs. It’s been in my closet sealed for 3 months now. So a waste of money but I guess that is a noob mistake ordering substrate along with bag or jars you are going to inculcate if you don’t have freezer space. I use HDS. It’s a acronym. I don’t wanna get kicked off for promoting vendors that aren’t sponsoring shroomery. Anyway I’m gonna throw away the other 15lbs.
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: Exstortion]
#27142080 - 01/11/21 01:52 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Exstortion said: Let me know how the JMF turns out. I inculcated one 3lb bag with JMF and another with aa+. The JMF had obvious contams after a week and half. Aa+ is just about done and looking great. I’m interested in the JMF
I have been away for a month and came back to my 24 bags. The MAZ did not show any growth, all others showed growth. The WNG showed the least growth, and the BM and JMF showed the most growth. The JMF being the best. I mixed all the bags and will update as I go.
I had two bags of Taz already colonized before I left. I threw them in the fridge while I was gone. They have been out now for a day and I might spawn them today. I have 40 lbs Hpoo substrate pre-pasteurized and 5 lbs casing.
Still deciding how I will spawn them to bulk but I am thinking shoeboxes for these first two bags. Then maybe some monotubs for the others. Gonna try different TEKs to see what I like best.
In total, I have 4 JMF, 6 WNG, 4 BM, 3 Haut, and 1 unknown... I believe it is Haut I didn't label it.
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27142100 - 01/11/21 02:00 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Do bods unmodified tub tek. I modified my shoeboxes before and now that I followed bods tek my flushes are way better

This is way better compared to my last grow. Just keep it simple.
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: Exstortion]
#27142143 - 01/11/21 02:22 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Dope I will. For fruiting have you been using a grocery bag?
Also, how long should I leave out spawn bag that has been refrigerated before spawning to bulk?
Edited by shadyshroomie (01/11/21 02:38 PM)
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27142183 - 01/11/21 02:50 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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I don’t use a grocery bag. I mixed up the spawn with the substrate then added about qt inch of substrate across the top. Put the lid on. Then after 10-14 days put the lid on top but upside down for fruiting.
I had jars from a vendor I put in the fridge for about 3 months. I took all 7 jars out the fridge the night before. Inoculated them. None had contamination. Spawned all of them. Lol the projects I don’t think are gonna work are seeming to be the best results and when I’m too cautious I get contams 🤦♂️. Anyway the night before you plan on inoculating them is good in my option.
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: Exstortion]
#27142193 - 01/11/21 02:52 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Dope thanks for the info.
The bags I had were already fully colonized. So They were in the fridge while fully colonized. Just wondering how long to let the mycelium come back
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27142199 - 01/11/21 02:55 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Yea that I’m not sure of. I always spawn as soon as they are colonized. I keep mss and LC in the fridge and just put those out the day before.... if it’s room temperature I would think it’s ok. I’m not sure though
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: Exstortion]
#27142364 - 01/11/21 04:39 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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No worries
When colonizing in a shoebox with a latch lid, can I just latch the lid and place on a shelf to colonize? Will that be sufficient GE for the spawn run?
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27151489 - 01/16/21 01:09 PM (3 years, 12 days ago) |
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Edited by shadyshroomie (01/16/21 01:10 PM)
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27151571 - 01/16/21 02:07 PM (3 years, 12 days ago) |
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Don't have much of anything to add. Things look good so far. I'm really Just posting so I can follow along. I hope you don't mind?
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: BrownBear]
#27152032 - 01/16/21 07:22 PM (3 years, 11 days ago) |
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Not at all
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27153866 - 01/17/21 04:47 PM (3 years, 11 days ago) |
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Update.
I bought a 106 qt tub to create a monotub style fruiting environment. They fit 4 6qt shoeboxes quite nicely. I plan to place 3 holes on each long side at the bottom stuffed with polyfill, and one up top on each short side. Similar to this: Monotub Fruiting
The 106 qt tubs fit perfectly in my storage racks
They are in my closet and I will likely run a humidifier inside the closet, have the door cracked and a fan oscillating outside my closet to move air around slightly inside.
Here is a pic of the tote  Any thoughts would be appreciated I plan to have about 7 totes that fit 4 tubs each, so a total of 28 6qt shoeboxes fruiting at once. Each shoebox I will spawn with 2 quarts rye berries and around 3 quarts of Hpoo substrate. I am going to experiment with casing vs not casing. I also will probably rotate the totes every day as I assume the air flow inside my closet will not be even on each side. Lmk what you think!
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27155605 - 01/18/21 02:27 PM (3 years, 10 days ago) |
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UPDATE 1/18/21
Spawned 2 of the JMF spawn bags I experimented with soaking one for 10 min and not the other Both are a 1:2.5 ratio spawned in 6qt shoebox
For the other 2 JMF I am going to do a 1:1 ratio with 2 bags in one tub to see how that goes I also am going to spawn 4 BM bags and one WNG in the next week or so
Pics: No matter what I do my pics upload sideways
The first two trays both of Tas were spawned 1/11 one at a 1:1 ratio and the other 1:4 about
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27171913 - 01/26/21 09:54 PM (3 years, 1 day ago) |
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Here are some updates today
I placed two of the BM shoeboxes in fruiting conditions in the large monotub I built Also placed two other trays I had fruiting already in there with them
I am noticing yellow myc piss on the surface and also inside some of my shoeboxes
TAS small tray (1:1)

BM (1:1) both 2 quarts spawn per box and spawned 1/19 so a week... not too shabby

I cannot get images to upload the right way for the life of me so fuck itI also harvested a first flush from the 3 TAS cakes I had going cake 1: 36.71 wet cake 2: 63.76 wet cake 3: 27.65 wet Also I am a fucken dumbass. I was impatient when sterilizing my agar and my genius ass thought to cool the agar quicker in ice cold water When I pulled the jar out I was like where the hell did the agar go... the bottom of the jar busted of course and lost all the agar smh...
Edited by shadyshroomie (01/26/21 09:55 PM)
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Re: shadyshroomie's First Bulk Tek Grow Log [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27178991 - 01/31/21 08:04 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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