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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075605 - 12/06/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shit I fell for the probiotic thing, I did some research for after taking my anti biotics to get my flora back and so I got some really good pro biotics, then later I found out that pro biotics can actually be counter productive and its actually better to get your flora back naturally, some things I read about were pockets of bacteria of just what was in the pro biotic can fill a space and dominate it and shit and all kinds of other shit I started finding out.
So the conclusion I got from all I read was that its better to just let your gut flora come back naturally and maybe eat some yogurt possibly.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075686 - 12/06/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: You're thinking of ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Some people who manufacture really expensive alternative vitamin C supplements (Rose hip blends and shit) have tried and partially succeeded to promote the idea that vitamin C isn't "just" ascorbic acid but also the other necessary cofactors (which simply amounts to a rewriting of the definition of vitamins in general), and/or that the ascorbic acid produced by "growing mold" is somehow inferior. none of it has any real justification in biochemistry.
Dude wtf what are you doing working in a hospital,
What is the difference between vitamin D2 and vitamin D3? At one time these two forms of vitamin D were thought to be equivalent, however, that is not the case! Vitamin D2 or ergocalciferol is actually less potent and has a shorter duration of action than its counterpart Vitamin D3 or cholecalciferol.
Is a prescription actually required to purchase vitamin D? Vitamin D2 50,000 units requires a prescription, however, Vitamin D3 50,000 units does NOT require one.
However, although Vitamin D3 50,000 units does not require a prescription, it is still usually purchased from behind the pharmacy counter and may need to be ordered in.
https://www.goodrx.com/blog/vitamin-d2-vs-vitamin-d3-whats-the-difference/
So as you see you need a prescription to get the real deal.
I'm so confused... first of all, none of what you said has any relation to the post of mine that you quaoted, and second of all are you trying to say that vitamin D2 is the "real deal" 
i've been trying to put how cringey it is that you're not only wrong about an easily discoverable basic fact, but are also trying to be condescending in the process for about 5 minutes but I just can't adequately capture it.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman] 1
#27075691 - 12/06/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said: I am sure it does something but why not get it in the best form that is free and also helps with balancing proper levels of cholesterol.
Because the same exposure that provides you with natural vitamin D also causes cellular mutations that can lead to cancer
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The sources I am pulling up are contradicting each other some are saying u can buy both OTC and others say you can't, also I am not seeing the same exact stuff I was reading 3 years ago, I am just pulling up some sources showing you where these analogs come from.
If you think you are getting the same thing, and achieving the same quality by taking supplements you are seriously mistaken.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075695 - 12/06/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said: Shit I fell for the probiotic thing, I did some research for after taking my anti biotics to get my flora back and so I got some really good pro biotics, then later I found out that pro biotics can actually be counter productive and its actually better to get your flora back naturally, some things I read about were pockets of bacteria of just what was in the pro biotic can fill a space and dominate it and shit and all kinds of other shit I started finding out.
So the conclusion I got from all I read was that its better to just let your gut flora come back naturally and maybe eat some yogurt possibly.
You can do fecal replacement. Save your shit from before you take the antibiotic then shove it back in when you’re done
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075698 - 12/06/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The real deal can only be gotten in a prescription shot, its supposedly the same quality as getting it from the sun, that is what I was reading 3 years ago and that particular shot is extremely expensive and very rarely used but only in extreme cases, I was reading all about it 3 years ago, I am not gonna be able to just find what I found 3 years ago when I did about a month straight of on and off vitamin D research to decide if I was gonna buy supplements or not.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: prettyMushy] 2
#27075702 - 12/06/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The sources I am pulling up are contradicting each other some are saying u can buy both OTC and others say you can't, also I am not seeing the same exact stuff I was reading 3 years ago, I am just pulling up some sources showing you where these analogs come from.
If you think you are getting the same thing, and achieving the same quality by taking supplements you are seriously mistaken.
I think you should worry about the things you're seriously mistaken about before you worry about the things I'm seriously mistaken about it, because there's a lot more of them, and it's generally bad when people who are seriously mistaken about as many things as you are are also as vocal as you are. I can describe the entire system of organs, glands, and hormones involved in the vitamin D biosynthesis pathway and regulation of vitamin D, as well as the effects that vitamin D exerts on other organs as an hormone itself, off the top of my head, and have been able to for several years.
In any case, I'm done having discussions with people who argue for pathological reasons rather than to discover the truth. I just needed to quickly point out that virtually every time you post there are factual errors in the claims you make, so you should consider aggregating a set of actual facts before making any further claims. Welcome to my ignore list.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman] 1
#27075703 - 12/06/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said: Darker skinned people just need a bit more time in the sun than someone lighter skinned.
People with medical conditions should be getting their shit from a doctor as supplements are unregulated and could literally just be fake as there are no checks and balances at all for them and basically are considered a scam.
My previous job actually forbid people from leaving the building for any reason whatsoever. Weren't allowed to walk to your car in the parking lot either. Not only that, but my building didn't have any windows and we were in an open office. They had a fear that going outside for lunch will track in the virus.
This is a job that works from 8:30am-6pm. So during the winter time, you see almost zero sun.
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budmanman said: The sources I am pulling up are contradicting each other some are saying u can buy both OTC and others say you can't, also I am not seeing the same exact stuff I was reading 3 years ago, I am just pulling up some sources showing you where these analogs come from.
If you think you are getting the same thing, and achieving the same quality by taking supplements you are seriously mistaken.
I think you should worry about the things you're seriously mistaken about before you worry about the things I'm seriously mistaken about it, because there's a lot more of them, and it's generally bad when people who are seriously mistaken about as many things as you are are also as vocal as you are.
In any case, I'm done having discussions with people who argue for pathological reasons rather than to discover the truth. I just needed to quickly point out that virtually every time you post there are factual errors in the claims you make, so you should consider aggregating a set of actual facts before making any further claims. Welcome to my ignore list.
Enjoy your analogs here is an image from one of my sources I showed.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075709 - 12/06/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Had you actually checked my sources you would have also seen this,

You see it is off label for either form to treat vitamin deficiency. The reason is it isn't the same shit that the sun gives you it is just similar.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075714 - 12/06/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are huge differences, bio availability being a big factor, the way the body intakes it and delivers it, the chemical composition etc.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman] 1
#27075720 - 12/06/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said:
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morrowasted said:
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budmanman said: The sources I am pulling up are contradicting each other some are saying u can buy both OTC and others say you can't, also I am not seeing the same exact stuff I was reading 3 years ago, I am just pulling up some sources showing you where these analogs come from.
If you think you are getting the same thing, and achieving the same quality by taking supplements you are seriously mistaken.
I think you should worry about the things you're seriously mistaken about before you worry about the things I'm seriously mistaken about it, because there's a lot more of them, and it's generally bad when people who are seriously mistaken about as many things as you are are also as vocal as you are.
In any case, I'm done having discussions with people who argue for pathological reasons rather than to discover the truth. I just needed to quickly point out that virtually every time you post there are factual errors in the claims you make, so you should consider aggregating a set of actual facts before making any further claims. Welcome to my ignore list.
Enjoy your analogs here is an image from one of my sources I showed.

The compound produced through sunlight is also an analog and has to go through two metabolic steps before its active
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The sources I am pulling up are contradicting each other some are saying u can buy both OTC and others say you can't, also I am not seeing the same exact stuff I was reading 3 years ago, I am just pulling up some sources showing you where these analogs come from.
If you think you are getting the same thing, and achieving the same quality by taking supplements you are seriously mistaken.
I think you should worry about the things you're seriously mistaken about before you worry about the things I'm seriously mistaken about it, because there's a lot more of them, and it's generally bad when people who are seriously mistaken about as many things as you are are also as vocal as you are. I can describe the entire system of organs, glands, and hormones involved in the vitamin D biosynthesis pathway and regulation of vitamin D, as well as the effects that vitamin D exerts on other organs as an hormone itself, off the top of my head, and have been able to for several years.
In any case, I'm done having discussions with people who argue for pathological reasons rather than to discover the truth. I just needed to quickly point out that virtually every time you post there are factual errors in the claims you make, so you should consider aggregating a set of actual facts before making any further claims. Welcome to my ignore list.
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Here let me show you just some of the differences that can be obtained.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075730 - 12/06/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not sure why the image saved like that so here it is more readable.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075734 - 12/06/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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And if I am not mistaken this is the structure we make in our bodies when we are exposed to sun
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075736 - 12/06/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I will tell you right now researching these different chemical structures and comparing them to what we make isn't very easy it isn't something that people search for often or are very interested in.
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075739 - 12/06/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here are 3 different structures I found compared side by side,
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075741 - 12/06/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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So since you are so knowledgeable and smart, tell us which exact structure is ideal?
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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
#27075747 - 12/06/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said: And if I am not mistaken this is the structure we make in our bodies when we are exposed to sun

That’s vitamin D3.
Methyl (CH3) groups are implied by a unlabeled line.
So H3C––––CH3 is the same as ––––
Two unlabeled lines that meet at an angle imply a carbon at the junction with two hydrogen atoms bonded to it.
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