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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: morrowasted]
    #27075102 - 12/06/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, I was solely protesting the static number of 250mg/15 minutes quoted. Had nothing to do with your 'prescribing' for a short period.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: metalfaith]
    #27075117 - 12/06/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Yep, I was solely protesting the static number of 250mg/15 minutes quoted. Had nothing to do with your 'prescribing' for a short period.



My mistake, I see that you were responding to leningradcowboy. I don't see his posts anymore so it looked  at first like you were responding to me :1up:


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: prettyMushy]
    #27075357 - 12/06/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Turn off the news on your TV and your Covid paranoia will go away.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: morrowasted]
    #27075431 - 12/06/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
You're thinking of ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Some people who manufacture really expensive alternative vitamin C supplements (Rose hip blends and shit) have tried and partially succeeded to promote the idea that vitamin C isn't "just" ascorbic acid but also the other necessary cofactors (which simply amounts to a rewriting of the definition of vitamins in general), and/or that the ascorbic acid produced by "growing mold" is somehow inferior. none of it has any real justification in biochemistry.




Dude wtf what are you doing working in a hospital,

What is the difference between vitamin D2 and vitamin D3?
At one time these two forms of vitamin D were thought to be equivalent, however, that is not the case! Vitamin D2 or ergocalciferol is actually less potent and has a shorter duration of action than its counterpart Vitamin D3 or cholecalciferol.

Is a prescription actually required to purchase vitamin D?
Vitamin D2 50,000 units requires a prescription, however, Vitamin D3 50,000 units does NOT require one.

However, although Vitamin D3 50,000 units does not require a prescription, it is still usually purchased from behind the pharmacy counter and may need to be ordered in.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/vitamin-d2-vs-vitamin-d3-whats-the-difference/

So as you see you need a prescription to get the real deal.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075436 - 12/06/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.singlecare.com/blog/vitamin-d-vs-d3/

What are the main differences between vitamin D and D3?
The term vitamin D is kind of a misnomer because you will not find anything labeled simply as “vitamin D” in a pharmacy vitamin aisle. Rather, your choices will be vitamin D2 or vitamin D3. Generally, when one mentions vitamin D, the implied selection is vitamin D2. For the purpose of this article, when vitamin D is mentioned, it will refer to vitamin D2. The names can be confusing, because many times, patients go into the pharmacy looking for vitamin D and are surprised that there is a D2 and a D3.

Vitamin D (D2) comes from plant sources, such as wild  MUSHROOMS, as well as fortified foods, such as milk or cereal products. Its strength is typically measured in international units, which is abbreviated as “IU” on labeling. The 50,000 IU capsules are prescription only, while lower strengths are available over-the-counter. Vitamin D is less expensive to produce and therefore is the form most commonly found in fortified food products.

Vitamin D3 mainly comes from animal sources such as fish oil, fatty fish, liver, and egg yolks. When your skin is exposed to sunlight, it produces vitamin D3. For this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the sunshine vitamin. Its strength is also measured in international units. All forms of vitamin D3 are available over-the-counter.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075438 - 12/06/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

and all of the vitamin D options will never compare to just getting it the way you are suppose to, from the sun.

They're all fucking shitty analogs.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075446 - 12/06/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You just said vitamin D3 is what is produced when melanin is exposed to sunlight. Is the the exact same thing? If it is, it’s not an analog.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075450 - 12/06/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I will add though that there is a vitamin D shot they give to people with severe vitamin D deficiency, D2 and D3 are not prescribed o used professionally in a hospital setting for Vitamin D deficiency, the shot is what you want but you won't get it.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075455 - 12/06/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hope u feel better :]


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075466 - 12/06/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

the compound that is made by sunlight is not active vitamin D. The compound that is made by sunlight is metabolized by the liver into another compound that is also not active vitamin. The compound made by the liver is then metabolized by the kidneys. This is active vitamin D.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075502 - 12/06/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I will add though that there is a vitamin D shot they give to people with severe vitamin D deficiency, D2 and D3 are not prescribed o used professionally in a hospital setting for Vitamin D deficiency, the shot is what you want but you won't get it.




D3 is prescribed in hospital settings frequently.

And just because something can be bought over the counter doesn't mean it's not often prescribed as well.

Why rant about something you know nothing about?


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: feevers]
    #27075511 - 12/06/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Because 3 years ago I was thinking about taking vitamin D as a supplement so I researched it and found out everything you can buy is an analog and doesn't even remotely compare to the sun so I just got more sun exposure instead.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075522 - 12/06/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I try to get more sun too, my levels went way up this year from being in the sun more. Supplementing definitely works though, the benefits other than bone health are still pretty up in the air but the supplement definitely raises your levels


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: feevers]
    #27075525 - 12/06/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I am sure it does something but why not get it in the best form that is free and also helps with balancing proper levels of cholesterol.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075530 - 12/06/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Spending more time outside is good for you too, mentally and air quality etc unless you have a furnace with a filter etc of course then maybe the air inside might potentially be better etc but enclosed spaces are more likely to have worse air quality than outside most the time dependent on location and quite frankly most people are way too boxed in all the time.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075564 - 12/06/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Not everyone is able to spend time outside every day because of work, too hot, too cold, or other things.
In the winter the production of vitamin D via the sun exposure isn't as effective.
People with darker colored skin are way less efficient at generating vitamin D through sunlight.
Lots of people have medical conditions where they aren't supposed to get too much sunlight.

There are MANY scenarios where a person can't produce enough vitamin D through sun exposure.

The approach to supplement it is very logical and it seems to be effective.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #27075577 - 12/06/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I see old ladies doing jogs in parks all the time even in the winter in short sleeve shirts physical activity warms you up and keeps you limber , jobs do get in the way though best time to get exposure is at 12pm, when I am at work any time I am outside building something I take off my jacket to get good exposure and since I am working hard I stay warm enough as long as I keep moving.

If you're taking supplements then you are being health conscious so if you are trying to be health conscious might as well try to go all the way if you can.

Most people are working at home right now and can step outside and get some rays for 15 minutes 2x a day, even if it is cloudy it still is working just at a slower rate.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075582 - 12/06/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

also jobs are required by law to give 10-15 minute breaks at least 2x in an 8 hour shift, good opportunities to get some sun.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: budmanman]
    #27075592 - 12/06/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You're not listening to what I'm saying.
Darker colored skin people are way less efficient at generating vitamin D than light skinned people via sunlight.
Some people can't get sunlight because of medical conditions.

We all understand what you're saying: get sunlight.  For some people it's just not that easy.


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Re: pretty sure i have covid [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #27075595 - 12/06/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Darker skinned people just need a bit more time in the sun than someone lighter skinned.

People with medical conditions should be getting their shit from a doctor as supplements are unregulated and could literally just be fake as there are no checks and balances at all for them and basically are considered a scam.


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