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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: morrowasted]
#27074890 - 12/06/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: I would take it in a heartbeat. I have to get it anyway. Even if I didn't have to get it, I'd be clamoring to get it as soon as possible. I'd pay decent money to get it. So yeah, if someone offered me fucking money to get it, I would take the money.
Do you think people who catch covid 19 and get better gain significant immunity?
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: cannabinated]
#27074900 - 12/06/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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H1N1 vaccine caused 700 cases of narcolepsia in Europe to children
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27074947 - 12/06/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psion said: gods, people acting like such sissies. ID RATHER DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH OF COVID OR AT LEAST LIKELY SUFFER DECADES OF SCARRING IN THE LUNGS AND HEART FROM COVID THAN A TINY INFINITESIMALLY POSSIBLY MAYBE HYPOTHETICALLY (MAYBE?) CHANCE OF GETTING SICK OR DYING FROM A NEW VACCINE!
Even worse than that, IMO, is the 'me me me' attitude displayed. Whatever happened to standing together, to looking out for one another, being concerned for a making small sacrifices for the good and well-being of others?
Instead it's 'I would rather hang myself than make a sacrifice for the good of others'. Because that's what I've seen, time after time, from a reasonably small (thankfully) yet undeniably ever present demographic of (IMO) ugly people. 'Here's 10,000 reasons that I have to not wear a mask, and they're all more important than wearing it to protect other people'. 'I shouldn't have to change anything that I do to protect others - no - they should all stay inside and suffer the difficulties and suffering of doing so if they're concerned for their health'. Or 'I refuse to use a time tested method that has been proven to effectively ERADICATE diseases from the face of the earth, because <INSERT SELFISH REASON HERE>.
You know, back when all this first started, I remember many times feeling, hoping, and saying that I hope that this thing brings out some good in us; that it brings us together as a species, that it makes us realize some of the things we take for granted, and that we all pull together to fight a common enemy (the disease).
Doesn't seem to have done much of any of that though does it?
not the (north) american way, we're all rugged individuals and islands unto ourselves. It's why we can't have nice things
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: metalfaith]
#27074953 - 12/06/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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metalfaith said: I have always said to friends, I never like to be associated publicly with people who do drugs. Not necessarily because of the drugs, but for fucks sake drug users are like 90%+ really fucking stupid people.
Proof? See the 15 threads about COVID and how chock full they are of kooks talking about how dangerous vaccines can be. Yet I haven't seen a single analysis of previous vaccines and their side effect profile. Instead there's talk about Alprazolam and Opiates being marketed as nonaddictive.
I feel like I'm on a mom Facebook group and someone is going to tell me I just need to rub some peppermint oil because that's going to protect me from COVID.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: cannabinated] 1
#27074961 - 12/06/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ezuma said: I don't doubt corporate negligence when it comes to the pharmaceutical industry (or any number of other industries, capitalism is poison) but there is a difference between prescription opiods and benzos and a vaccine. Find me an epidemic of flu shot deaths if you (can) like, but I'm not convinced the two are comparable.
bill gates killed like 40k kids with a malaria vaccine
source? 40 000 is a pretty big number
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: budmanman]
#27074962 - 12/06/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: cannabinated]
#27074971 - 12/06/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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thats just one vaccine and theyve put out dozens for testing on brown babies
free RnD, for the us government
wasnt that kinda what epstein and maxwells biz was
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: cannabinated]
#27074975 - 12/06/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vaccines infect you with the virus in a "safe" way, either with a live or dead virus. Your body reacts to the infection and creates anti bodies.
I caught the virus, my body reacted to the virus and it created antibodies etc and did all the things the body does to beat the virus.
Who here thinks I need a vaccine?
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: Ezuma]
#27074980 - 12/06/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ezuma said: It's why we can't have nice things
I don't follow?
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#27074987 - 12/06/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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BMGF has funded two organizations that over the past five years have played a significant role in the country’s immunization programme and are both under fire for conflict of interest. The organizations are GAVI (earlier known as Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization), a global aid organization that specializes in vaccination, and Public Health Foundation of India (PHFI), a public-private partnership society that BMGF co-founded with the UPA government in 2006.Activists allege that these two institutions have a working relationship with pharma companies. The main charge against GAVI is that it has representatives from pharmaceutical companies on its board while the PHFI accepts grants from pharma companies. “BMGF and GAVI are pushing the [vaccine] agenda with governments around the world, including India,” says Ritu Priya Mehrotra, professor of Social Medicine and Community Health and School of Social Sciences, Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi. The community health activist says the biotechnology industry was pushing more and more vaccines into India and that the health ministry was not ensuring that adequate testing was done before recommending their use in government programmes.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/controversial-vaccine-studies-why-is-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-under-fire-from-critics-in-india/articleshow/41280050.cms?from=mdr
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: cannabinated]
#27074999 - 12/06/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I was little my mom worked somewhere that had group health insurance. A brown blackish like spot appeared on my moms shoulder, she use to use tanning beds for a year or 2 at the time.
She thought it looked like cancer and went to the group health dr's, they told her it was nothing.
After many years of multiple appointments of this spot growing and growing larger and larger and the group health doctors telling her it was nothing it finally got the diameter of a softball.
It was so big and obviously cancer that it was undeniable and at this point the dr just couldn't do what group health wanted him to do which was say it was nothing and he biopsied it, it came back as cancer.
It could have been removed when it was just a small speck when my mom first noticed it, but now she had to have a large chunk of her shoulder removed.
Group health's nick name was group death. Group health is now know as kaiser permanente.
pfizer and kaiser permanente are the ones making the vaccine. Isn't that just wonderful?
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: budmanman]
#27075024 - 12/06/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: budmanman]
#27075038 - 12/06/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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that would be super dope if true
it would still blow my mind if it turned out to be the case that 1 in every 3 americans has had COVID but somehow I, after having been continually exposed for months, have not had COVID.
but I guess it's possible. would mean the virus is far more contagious but far less deadly than originally estimated. if true, still a really nasty virus given the specific combination of these two attributes. 300k deaths in a year despite mitigation efforts is nothing to scoff at
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: morrowasted]
#27075042 - 12/06/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vaccines infect you with the virus in a "safe" way, either with a live or dead virus.
Just as a side note, this one does not work in either of those ways. There is no virus whatsover
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: morrowasted]
#27075045 - 12/06/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You more than likely already had it and beat it very fast with your immune system. They now estimate 57% of people who catch it get absolutely no symptoms at all, no loss of taste or anything, they catch it and their body is just like lol weak virus and beats its ass and have no idea they ever had it, which is why the estimates are now that about 1/3 people so far have had it.
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: morrowasted]
#27075050 - 12/06/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vaccines infect you with the virus in a "safe" way, either with a live or dead virus.
Just as a side note, this one does not work in either of those ways. There is no virus whatsover
Ok then how does it work? Because I am quite sure that there is no vaccine that works any other way so please enlighten me.
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: budmanman]
#27075052 - 12/06/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been getting tested every week since like june
If I got virus in me it can't have been enough to develop antibodies or the test would have picked it up. it's possible i've had some virus get in my system here and there and get knocked out by my innate immunity really quickly, but in that case I do not have covid antibodies.
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: budmanman]
#27075053 - 12/06/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh look here is the CDC saying I am right "mRNA vaccines contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus. After our cells make copies of the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future. Protein subunit vaccines include harmless pieces (proteins) of the virus that cause COVID-19 instead of the entire germ. Once vaccinated, our immune system recognizes that the proteins don’t belong in the body and begins making T-lymphocytes and antibodies. If we are ever infected in the future, memory cells will recognize and fight the virus. Vector vaccines contain a weakened version of a live virus—a different virus than the one that causes COVID-19—that has genetic material from the virus that causes COVID-19 inserted in it (this is called a viral vector). Once the viral vector is inside our cells, the genetic material gives cells instructions to make a protein that is unique to the virus that causes COVID-19. Using these instructions, our cells make copies of the protein. This prompts our bodies to build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight that virus if we are infected in the future." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: morrowasted]
#27075055 - 12/06/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: I've been getting tested every week since like june
If I got virus in me it can't have been enough to develop antibodies or the test would have picked it up. it's possible i've had some virus get in my system here and there and get knocked out by my innate immunity really quickly, but in that case I do not have covid antibodies.
Doesn't matter the tests are bullshit my wife works in a nursing home and people who ended up not having the virus test positive all the time and people who tested negative ended up having the virus all along, most test are flawed mass produced garbage and if you work in a hospital I am shocked you haven't figured this out yet.
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Re: 1500.00 if you put your life at risk.. [Re: budmanman]
#27075059 - 12/06/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vaccines infect you with the virus in a "safe" way, either with a live or dead virus.
Just as a side note, this one does not work in either of those ways. There is no virus whatsover
Ok then how does it work? Because I am quite sure that there is no vaccine that works any other way so please enlighten me.
this type of vaccine just uses a piece of genetic material that, after it is injected into you, goes into your cell, where your cell uses it to make and release a certain type of protein into your system. this protein gets sensed by your immune system, and in response, your immune system makes antibodies that have the right shape to bind to and disable SARS-CoV-2.
previously they would extract the proteins from the viruses, or just kill the virus itself, like you said, but now your own body will be making the proteins from genetic material. the mRNA isn't actually taken out of viruses, they just use the viral mRNA as a blueprint for synthesizing it
theoretically it should be very effective and, unlike other vaccines, does not require the use of adjuvants, which is something antivaxxers like to bitch about. i somehow doubt that this will appease them though
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