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shadyshroomie
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27179236 - 01/31/21 11:06 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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That is wild. Imagine fucking with your friends, eating an ounce in front of them, and then just fuck with them as if you're tripping off of a fucking ounce of shrooms but in reality, aren't even high.
Are you, or anyone, aware if there are test kits for levels of psilocybin? Of course the presence of psilocybin can be tested for, but I am curious if they have semi-affordable test kits to test the level of psilocybin in a mushroom. Maybe you grind up a gram and do a lab test or something. Would be kinda cool to be able to test potency of clones
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Pastywhyte
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27179247 - 01/31/21 11:14 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Even crazier was that it was a SWPE clone. I was shocked, was expecting everyone to get their heads melted off and instead no one felt a damn thing.
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shadyshroomie
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27179259 - 01/31/21 11:26 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Such a buzzkill. Makes me think of the ludes scene in Wolf of Wallstreet, except without a happy ending
Imagine eating more and more but for whatever reason they don't hit you for 3+ hours and next thing you know you're tripping sack off like 10g of them lol. Did you throw the rest of that grow out or continue trying them and they still were not even close to potent?
Kinda a sidenote, but I wonder if there is any information on how different nutrients/foods can affect a trip? Of course, they will hit you faster on an empty stomach, but I am curious if there is any knowledge on if certain fruits, veggies, or herbs aid the transport of alkaloids and such. Or reduce anxiety, like maybe making mushroom tea with L-theanine. Although perhaps L-theanine is far from strong enough to limit trip-induced anxiety. But also perhaps it can keep you down just enough to prevent a snowballing of anxiety. I am more curious of different herbs that might benefit/affect a trip, kind of similar to blue lotus flower and DMT
I am planning on making tea packets with some of what I grow and would be cool to have a unique product, so to speak, by including different herbs/nutrients that can benefit the trip-goer
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27179569 - 01/31/21 03:19 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Just cubes alone can range from completely bunk (like you eat an oz and get zero) to tampanensis strength or even more potent (in which case 3.5 would be overwhelming from some people). This isn’t even taking into account more potent species or poor storage methods.
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#27179765 - 01/31/21 05:58 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Poor storage is the number one cause of weak ass trips, ime.
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shadyshroomie
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27180756 - 02/01/21 10:57 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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What environmental storage conditions cause psilocybin to degrade?
Also, love your sig... "shrooms make you gay anyways" hahahahhaha
Edit: found a nice post by Pasty on potency PotencyByPasty
Edited by shadyshroomie (02/01/21 11:04 AM)
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27180784 - 02/01/21 11:06 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Exposure to oxygen, moisture, and uv. Store in an airtight container out of sunlight. People experience degradation in potency often because they toss their dried mushrooms into a sandwich baggy and toss them on their rolling tray in their living room, all the while getting bashed up and exposed to the humidity from the environment, increased surface area from breakage increases exposure to oxygen/moisture, and maybe the sun is beating down on them at the same time, maybe not 
Store in airtight jars or in vacuum sealed bags, store those in a cupboards/ drawers/totes.
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shadyshroomie
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27180799 - 02/01/21 11:12 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ahh gotcha, thanks. Makes sense.
How is potency affected/not affected when used to brew tea? Or make honey? Chocolates? For example, if you use an ounce to make a big batch of chocolates, will the chocolates last as long as the chocolate itself would? Or does altering the delivery method have an effect on alkaloid degradation variables? (like maybe in chocolate it is easier to degrade, or the moisture decreases its storage timeframe, etc.)
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob (moved) [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27182396 - 02/02/21 07:40 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's the other way around. Chocolate locks the alkaloids dark and airtight inside. I had chocolates that were two and a half years old that felt as potent as the first day. I store my chocolates in the fridge, though. The pralines turn a little white on the outside over time in the fridge, but that's not bad, it's just the sugar recrystalizing on the surface. They are still good to eat.
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27777433 - 05/14/22 10:06 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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interesting
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Years ago I grew out about 5 cube strains and nothing came close to Cambodians as far as size and yield went. I always attributed this to the strains's strengths being a match with my climate as my op wasn't a very controlled environment. As far as potency goes I think they were all about the same. As far as type of experience goes, I think it's probably all psychological but this is something that's impossible to ever know given all the variables and the mystery of the human mind.
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27785089 - 05/19/22 11:45 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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A cube is a cube should go down as blasphemous. It’s like saying a “sativa is a sativa, Indica is an indica, hybrids a hybrid. Every single different type of psilocybin cultivar is different from One another. Even within the same genetics. So no a “cube is not a cube”, quit sprouting this dumb statement as it makes you look uninformed
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Re: A Cube is not a Cube... a memoir from a Noob [Re: high_desert]
#27785123 - 05/20/22 12:21 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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high_desert said: Years ago I grew out about 5 cube strains and nothing came close to Cambodians as far as size and yield went. I always attributed this to the strains's strengths being a match with my climate as my op wasn't a very controlled environment. As far as potency goes I think they were all about the same. As far as type of experience goes, I think it's probably all psychological but this is something that's impossible to ever know given all the variables and the mystery of the human mind.
Cambodians are the only "regular cube" where I don't really buy it. The potency was the same as other varieties but the cambos colonized everything ultra quick, were super contam resistant because of it and the yield was stellar. And it couldn't have been my prep techniques that led to such good results, it was my first grow ever from scratch.
Sadly I don't have the culture anymore, if anyone has some good prints or swabs hit me up please!
Edited by Ankhseramun (05/20/22 12:22 AM)
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