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Bsdgaou

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Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags?
#26723594 - 06/06/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anyone tried that? If so, what's the recipe for substrate and procedure?
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26724086 - 06/06/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You want us to write up 3 different start-to-finish recipes and procedures for you? 
Ya gotta meet us halfway, do a little research, we're happy to help but... c'mon.
I'll start you off - Turkey tail is easy, Maitake not so easy but possible, Chaga impossible.
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Forrester]
#26726005 - 06/07/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great, so we have only 2 left.
I have some basic recipes for HWFP and soy hulls substitute, but as commercial grower I want bigger yield per bag, of course. I only find growing on logs. But I don't want to go that way.
If some member has pictures, I would love to see them in action. That's why is forum, right?
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26726028 - 06/07/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cool so you got a pretty good recipe there, I think HWFP and soy hulls are an excellent substrate for turkey tails, and likely Maitake as well.
Turkey tails are great because they can be grown in basically anything. You just want to force them to fruit out holes, or slits in bags - don't top fruit or it will be a nightmare to harvest.
Here's some pics: (you can see on the left one, the top of the bag is how you want to do it, not the side where they grow all across the surface) Buckets are fun too.

Here's my maitake grow:

Unfortunately I didn't get much further than these huge pins, because they abort pretty easily if humidity isn't kept up. If I remember, it took them a really long time to pin.
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Forrester]
#26726759 - 06/07/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Following this--I'm about to noc a couple jars of rye grain w/TT LC. Considering growing in bags, might just do logs instead....
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: RRedBBeard]
#26727054 - 06/07/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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RRedBBeard said: Following this--I'm about to noc a couple jars of rye grain w/TT LC. Considering growing in bags, might just do logs instead....
I hate harvesting TT from logs, even in the wild. So many, tiny mushrooms, so much bark and wood stuck to them.
If I was growing them on ANY scale, I'd go the bucket method, or bags with fruits only thru slits for sure.
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Forrester]
#27062942 - 11/29/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry for the bump
@forester, how do you grow the TT in the bucket?
I mean, how do you pastuerise the substrate? Surely not in a bucklet that size?
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Loppy1512]
#27063169 - 11/29/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah just bucket-tek pasteurization works fine. Put hardwood fuel pellets in bucket, pour boiling water over top, let cool and mix in spawn!
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Forrester]
#27063262 - 11/29/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Too bad those Maitake didn’t make it; Looked like some healthy clumps coming in. What was your sub on that grow?
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Mycolorado]
#27063289 - 11/29/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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@forrester Just for the sake of curiosity how long did your maitake take to colonize and then pin? They are extremely slow growers in the wild.
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: sendmehummus]
#27063865 - 11/30/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aha, thanks for that...been stressing tryng to find inexpensive filter patch bags.... Do you cut a hole and micropor it for gas exchange? Do you think you could grow Lion's Mane and Shitake in the same manner since they also grow on wood pellets?
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Loppy1512] 1
#27065040 - 11/30/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said: Too bad those Maitake didn’t make it; Looked like some healthy clumps coming in. What was your sub on that grow?
I believe it was just unsupplemented HWFP with a full quart of spawn IIRC.
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sendmehummus said: @forrester Just for the sake of curiosity how long did your maitake take to colonize and then pin? They are extremely slow growers in the wild.
Quite a while, but I don't remember. 4-5 months maybe? The mushroom was pretty slow growing too.
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Loppy1512 said: Do you cut a hole and micropor it for gas exchange? Do you think you could grow Lion's Mane and Shitake in the same manner since they also grow on wood pellets?
In the bucket method? Sorry I'm not sure what you're asking. Cut a hole in what? You cannot grow shiitake in a bucket as it's a completely different process. LM should work though.
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Bsdgaou]
#27066997 - 12/01/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Forrester]
#27067380 - 12/01/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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In the bucket method? Sorry I'm not sure what you're asking. Cut a hole in what? You cannot grow shiitake in a bucket as it's a completely different process. LM should work though.
Yeah in the bucket method. Does there not need to be GE when the TT spawn is colonising the sub and hence there needs to be a hole with a filter patch of some kind?
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Re: Chaga, turkey tail and maitake in grow bags? [Re: Loppy1512]
#27072313 - 12/04/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Loppy1512 said: Yeah in the bucket method. Does there not need to be GE when the TT spawn is colonising the sub and hence there needs to be a hole with a filter patch of some kind?
Well the bucket has holes in it to fruit from, no? Plenty of gas exchange through those. And you don't need to cover them with a filter.
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