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Anonymous #1

Help quitting opiates
    #27072047 - 12/04/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

More specifically, oxycodone.

It's been months now. In the early days, it was a very off/on relationship. We'd spend a week or two together, then want to spend time apart, a few days of feeling weird and then a week of feeling a little off. Then after a week or two apart we'd do it all over again.

But now it's got bad. Now it's been months without a break, apart from the two times I've tried to walk away, which have resulted in withdrawal symptoms so horrific that after a couple of days I cave in and go back to them just to feel some relief from the symptoms. The sleepness nights full of restless legs, shivers and sweating, lack of energy and horrible anxiety fueled thoughts.. it really wears a guy down.

So they say that the third time is the charm. Apparently. Which means that the third time I'm going to make sure that I have everything set up to ensure I don't fail and don't go back to them. I think the ingredients are:

Determination to never go back to them
Time off work
Benzo's (diazepam)
Kratom (white vein)
Tramadol (slow release)
L-Theanine (extract)
Valerian root (extract)

I haven't had any of this to hand the last two times I made a serious go at quitting, so I'm hoping this will be enough to see me through.

Still, I want to hear advice from people here who have gone through quitting opiates before. I didn't know anything could have such a terrible comedown/withdrawal as these things. It's blown me away how bad WD makes you feel. It's like you wish you had never been born.

If anyone has anything to share please do.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Help quitting opiates [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27074434 - 12/06/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think a big part of the addict world is who you surround yourself with.

Just take smoking as an example. It would be very hard for you to keep smoking.... if all of your friends were business suit types who hated smokers.

But..... if your friends were every day drinkers who smoked when they drank.... that is a nearly impossible to quit scenario. That requires god-like willpower that almost everyone doesnt possess. Youd need a mindset like Mike Tyson.



Perhaps change your environment. Being an addict by itself outweighs every other aspect of your life and makes the overall a negative. Perhaps you should sacrifice everything to go live somewhere free of temptation. Perhaps take a low-paying job on a farm in a super regional area. Bonus points if they are heavily religious and want to help you succeed.


One definitive assisting factor in quitting addictions is exercise. You should definitely exercise every day. Go lift some weights. Even if its 20 minutes a day. Set a goal and slowly increase the weight over a period of months until you hit that goal. Lets say..... Bench Press 200 pounds. Start with 120. Every week increase by 5 pounds.


Eat healthy. Really tear into some solid fresh veg, fruit, and meat. Start cooking for yourself. Learn to be a good cook.




All my advice is very basic. I am a former addict and to be honest I found the most basic simple advice was the advice I needed. I just refused to listen to it because it sounded so obvious. Like what am I? A child???

But honestly it does help. A lot.



Another thing. Keep in mind that it is going to hurt. It is going to suck. You are NOT going to enjoy it. Think of those very popular and very true quotes to help you keep going.

"Pain is WEAKNESS leaving the body"
"Be a fucking LION!"
"I'm here to KICK ASS and CHEW BUBBLE GUM! And I'm ALL OUTTA GUM!"


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Anonymous #3

Re: Help quitting opiates [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27076376 - 12/07/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
More specifically, oxycodone.

It's been months now. In the early days, it was a very off/on relationship. We'd spend a week or two together, then want to spend time apart, a few days of feeling weird and then a week of feeling a little off. Then after a week or two apart we'd do it all over again.

But now it's got bad. Now it's been months without a break, apart from the two times I've tried to walk away, which have resulted in withdrawal symptoms so horrific that after a couple of days I cave in and go back to them just to feel some relief from the symptoms. The sleepness nights full of restless legs, shivers and sweating, lack of energy and horrible anxiety fueled thoughts.. it really wears a guy down.

So they say that the third time is the charm. Apparently. Which means that the third time I'm going to make sure that I have everything set up to ensure I don't fail and don't go back to them. I think the ingredients are:

Determination to never go back to them
Time off work
Benzo's (diazepam)
Kratom (white vein)
Tramadol (slow release)
L-Theanine (extract)
Valerian root (extract)

I haven't had any of this to hand the last two times I made a serious go at quitting, so I'm hoping this will be enough to see me through.

Still, I want to hear advice from people here who have gone through quitting opiates before. I didn't know anything could have such a terrible comedown/withdrawal as these things. It's blown me away how bad WD makes you feel. It's like you wish you had never been born.

If anyone has anything to share please do.





Flat out you are only going to get through this one of two ways.

1. Cold turkey.

2. Tapering down to cold turkey.

If you can take one pill less every day until you get to zero would be ideal, once you get to zero the majority of bad symptoms should be gone within a week with a full return to normal brain function in about 30 days.  Acetaminophen and cannabis products can help the withdrawal quite a bit, but you need to be careful not to replace one crutch with another.

If you cared to provide a more detailed description of the dosages you are taking I could possibly advise a more detailed withdrawal plan to consider, as always be cautious and consult a real doctor before you do anything with drugs.


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