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Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?)
#27072001 - 12/04/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi guys, long time no see. I'm starting up a new grow after a 3-year hiatus using Mudafakas Bottle Tek again. Last time I had used his coir-based recipe with Oats, Whole Wheat and Wheat Bran successfully.
First question: Where I live now (Southern California), I could only find Whole Oats for race horses and Wheat Bran at the local animal feed stores. Do these have to be organic? I have read that if it's not organic, then it has fungicides in them? Is this true? If it is, then that would fuck the whole project up. (I can't find organic versions anywhere locally and they all think I'm funny when I'm asking if they have organic over the phone.)
Second question: For the nutritious stuff, the recipe calls for Oats, Whole Wheat and Wheat Bran. Is it okay if I can not get the Whole Wheat? Do I replace them with more oats or wheat bran or 50/50 both?
I know in his recipe he says you can use literally anything, but I wanna be methodical and not be hasty. Thanks guys!
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Re: Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?) [Re: AK1000]
#27072011 - 12/04/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Chose a grain thats available to you and that you like working with. Try different grains to find what suits your needs. Gl
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Re: Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?) [Re: Mateja]
#27072012 - 12/04/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You could go 100% oats no problem if you wanted it
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Re: Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?) [Re: AK1000]
#27072020 - 12/04/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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AK1000 said: Second question: For the nutritious stuff, the recipe calls for Oats, Whole Wheat and Wheat Bran. Is it okay if I can not get the Whole Wheat? Do I replace them with more oats or wheat bran or 50/50 both?
I know in his recipe he says you can use literally anything, but I wanna be methodical and not be hasty. Thanks guys!
The "Whole Oats for race horses" are what you want. And you absolutely can use anything. Muda made it a point to tell me that when I was asking questions like you were BITD. I wound up tossing in oats/WBS, coir, BRF, ground dog food, etc.
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Re: Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?) [Re: stareatclouds]
#27072030 - 12/04/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gotcha guys, thank you! So it doesn't have to be organic, I take it? The word fungicide scares the bejesus out of me!
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Re: Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?) [Re: AK1000] 1
#27072041 - 12/04/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't believe oats for horses are treated with fungicides. They're dry feed. Either way, Producer's Pride Whole Oats are all I've ever used and they're exactly what you want.
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Re: Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?) [Re: stareatclouds]
#27072061 - 12/04/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's gold.
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Re: Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?) [Re: Josex]
#27072323 - 12/04/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great! From MudaFuka himself!
What is the benefit of using a mix of different grains, if anything?
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Re: Mudafukas Bottle Tek: Do the Whole Oats and Wheat Bran have to be ORGANIC? (And is it ok if Wheat Bran is not included?) [Re: AK1000]
#27072568 - 12/04/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everybody shoot me dead, because I have successfully ran oats for human consumption. Coriander seeds.
It colonized and grew just fine, But moisture was a PITA with human oats
If there's digestible carbs, other nutrition, no/minimum fat, and probably Low fiber too, you can test it.
I would not recommend corn, coriander or human oats, but understand your situation: there's a lot of different sourced mush food in use, the whole grains are most popular, and some are considered better than others by their respective side
Oats Vs Rye gang; fight!
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