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Re: Phenibut [Re: yeah]
    #27073996 - 12/05/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Phenibut is a bit like kratom- insidious- but far worse (which is not to downplay the seriousness of kratom addiction but to emphasize the seriousness of phenibut dependency). the first few times you do it, it's great.  it makes you feel very good, but in a functional way. you can do work better, socialize better, flirt better- even sleep better. waking up after taking phenibut the first few times made me feel more rested than I have ever felt in my life.

it doesn't last at all. if you dose every day, the same dose that made you feel this way for the last 24hrs will be necessary every 6-8hrs to keep you from feeling shitty.

i don't even tell people to throw xanax away. xanax has its uses. phenibut belongs in the trash


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Re: Phenibut [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #27074022 - 12/05/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Jesus Christ, I'm glad I never tried that stuff.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: yeah]
    #27074517 - 12/06/20 02:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

A single dose especially depending on how much can have you relaxed for 24 hr for sure, sometimes it can go away for a bit and then feel it again in the morning it’s weird like that. You’re 100% fine from a single dose, honestly if someone felt bad from a single dose they are either wired very differently or have some mental stuff going on.

Like I said above though it can get bad. Enjoy it sparingly and you’re good. I take it still sometimes, only bc I can’t smoke weed or I’d barely touch the stuff.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #27074936 - 12/06/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't take any yesterday and felt fine so I hope a using it for a couple days on and several off will work for me. Gonna be careful about it.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #27074982 - 12/06/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Only after a week?? That same thing happened to me but after 3 months. Literally had me laying in bad staring at a wall for hours in sheer terror sometimes. I thought I officially done fucked up my brain, it took me about 30-35 days to feel better. So you felt awful after taking phenibut eventually? Like throw you into a panic attack like state?

I’ve made posts on Reddit trying to warn people about this, as much as I’m not a people person anymore I sure don’t want anyone to suffer like I did. I remember telling my GF that I felt like I was about to lose control of my sanity. I was having almost 45min Long I panic attacks that would just roll into more panic attacks when it was at it a worst.




sounds like me instant panic attacks. couldnt sleep. when I was sleeping I was wide awake in another dimension. truly scary shit. you get stuck in these thought loops of doom. one night i stayed up all night and next morning started off with a panic attack that the world
was collapsing. i was freaking out saying crazy shit. then i snap out of it after hyperventilating.

impending doom is crazy feels like a bad trip.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: yeah] * 1
    #27075098 - 12/06/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah said:
I didn't take any yesterday and felt fine so I hope a using it for a couple days on and several off will work for me. Gonna be careful about it.



After seeing all the crazy adverse effects... I have to say, using it "a couple days on" does not seem like 'being careful about it'.

Seems the only person who still takes it, Catslove, specifically said he takes a single dose. Especially if it lasts 24 hours, like Catslove says. Could easily see a problem arising from knocking on those receptors for 48-72 hours.

Post back here when the panic attacks begin!:lolsy:


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Re: Phenibut [Re: metalfaith]
    #27075149 - 12/06/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I like it. Takes away nearly all social anxiety. Of course you don't want to use everyday- 3 days a week tops and never back to back. I use it mainly for job interviews or if I have to do a presentation or something. mixing with psyches can be pretty good too.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: metalfaith]
    #27075345 - 12/06/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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metalfaith said:
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yeah said:
I didn't take any yesterday and felt fine so I hope a using it for a couple days on and several off will work for me. Gonna be careful about it.



After seeing all the crazy adverse effects... I have to say, using it "a couple days on" does not seem like 'being careful about it'.

Seems the only person who still takes it, Catslove, specifically said he takes a single dose. Especially if it lasts 24 hours, like Catslove says. Could easily see a problem arising from knocking on those receptors for 48-72 hours.

Post back here when the panic attacks begin!:lolsy:




Well I'm still seeing how 3 days on affects me and nothing about what I said is set in stone. So far today, 36 hours since my last dose, I am not having any panic. So if 3 days on with rest is fine then I don't see why scaling it back to two days can't be considered cautious. And that would also be a trial and I may decide to stop doing it on consecutive days all together.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: yeah]
    #27075661 - 12/06/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

yep, classic delusional thinking. I know you think you can do that.


Best of luck to you dude...


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Re: Phenibut [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #27075858 - 12/06/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

lol delusions of sobriety classic GABAergic at play. I honestly can’t vouch for any GaBAergic they all have unbelievable withdrawals.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: Gorlax]
    #27076236 - 12/06/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

For real. Why else would OP want to continue taking a drug that nearly everyone in this thread advises against?


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Re: Phenibut [Re: Tight Lunchbox]
    #27076810 - 12/07/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He might be in the same camp as me. Every person who's had a bad reaction it in this thread was taking it consecutively for an extended period of time. Not denying the severity of it's withdrawals, but if taken infrequently once a week it can be a great recreational substance.

Some people don't have the self control for that. Personally it's the most functional GABAergic substance I've ever taken. Every other benzo has been garbage compared to phenibut in my experience.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #27076946 - 12/07/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He just said he is taking it on consecutive days.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: morrowasted]
    #27077047 - 12/07/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

you haven't really read what I said that carefully


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Re: Phenibut [Re: Gorlax]
    #27077110 - 12/07/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yup. I legit was scared, walking around my neighborhood in absolute horror for hours. Stuck in my head. What happened was I was abusing it, thought I could just taper off after awhile... we’ll the phenibut started GIVING me panic attacks. I didn’t know what was wrong, was looking up epilepsy and different forms of seizures. Figured out what the phenibut was doing, and dropped it immediately. Could’ve had a seizure from that, wasn’t that long of use but possible. 

Through the worst of it I was at family’s place for Father’s Day this year, felt like I was dreaming/bad trip/everything was unreal. Could literally go psychotic. It’s all my fault though, that’s what happeneds when you fuck around. I became stronger going through that though. Taught me more about how powerful the mind is then any psychedelic experience and I use them quite heavily. Some will disagree with that part but it is true.

I thought kratom and phenibut were awesome, I now realize how careful you have to be with them... phenibut more so then kratom for me. Weed/Psychedelics, no liquor for me thanks.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #27077916 - 12/07/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Withdrawal
symptoms, which can last two weeks or longer, may include anxiety, agitation,
fatigue, hallucinations, insomnia, psychosis, tremors, tachycardia, nausea and
vomiting. In addition, symptoms for which phenibut was taken will return.

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Re: Phenibut [Re: TheEschatologist]
    #27084643 - 12/11/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Bumping this cause I have a related question for you guys.

I was a daily phenibut and kratom user for the past year. I'm a recovering alcoholic (2+ yrs clean) but I admittedly traded addictions with these seemingly less destructive substances. I stopped taking high phenibut doses quite a few months back, and tapered the dose down to about 450mg per day, for the last couple months of using it. My kratom dose was pretty light towards the end as well (maybe 2.5 gpd).

So I finally quit the phenibut a month ago, but I didn't want to deal with insomnia or other potential WD's. My doctor had suggested Gabapentin to me way back when I was still drinking and looking to quit, but I never took him up on the offer until now. It's been a couple weeks on about 800-1000mg per day. I have really mixed feelings about it, and I know since its a GABAergic drug, there's real potential for me to abuse it, considering my past.

I did however finally quit kratom, just 5 days ago, which is awesome.

I have been feeling pretty sad and actually somewhat anxious and depressed lately, while on the gabapentin. I just don't know whether this is actually the gabapentin or if it's to be more attributed to kratom WDs.

If any of you have used gabapentin before, I'd like to hear about your thoughts and experiences. As I understand it, this drug and phenibut work on different gaba receptors. I honestly would have to say that, so far, I find phenibut to be warmer and floatier than gabapentin, but gabapentin doesn't seem to have as devastating of a rebound effect the next morning (it does seem a bit sedating though).

Any personal experience and response here is much appreciated. Thanks.


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Re: Phenibut [Re: yeah]
    #27084713 - 12/11/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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kind of a tangent but the psychiatrist barely seemed to care or even act like they've seen that happen before. good thing I was just asking for more Seroquel and not something they don't love to prescribe




seroquel is fucked, its like diabetes in a pill, I had someone on a weightloss sub reddit say seroquel was the only thing that worked for their mental illness and I was at a loss of what to say to them, my knee jerk reaction would be to tell them to drop the seroquel like yesterday if they are trying to lose weight, but according to them it was improving thier quality of life, and they said it was the only thing that worked so I assume they tried lots of other anti-psychotics, I went radio silent on that one

I never got withdrawals on seroquel, I forget what my dose was, it was at least a few hundred mg though


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Re: Phenibut [Re: gopher]
    #27084717 - 12/11/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

effexor and wellbutrin are good for non-serotonin pains emotional, etc. and major depression.  said wellbutrin would make me hallucinate though.  and xanax they won't do - too addictive, but i dont understand, in the past with other doctors they would prescribe easily.  now it's difficult to get anything.


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