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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: taku]
    #27154123 - 01/17/21 07:38 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

Made another slew of agar plates today.  Testibg each of my LC jars before they get the quality control for a 👌.  I've made about 90 plates and getting better.  Learned to not just suck up LC but get a concentrated pull from the mycelium otherwise you take a chance of just shooting sugar water on your plate and nothing grows. 

Also kept my dirty jar plates that I dumped and remade to learn how different bacteria/yeast grows and what it looks like from begging to end.  The pink yeast is really pretty tho lol.  It's only a mistake if you don't learn from it.

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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: troy_white42]
    #27154925 - 01/18/21 08:28 AM (3 years, 10 days ago)

First couple of harvests from my first batch of sloppy bags.  PO, FO, and EO.  Bags were about 4lbs.

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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: troy_white42] * 2
    #27155579 - 01/18/21 02:14 PM (3 years, 10 days ago)

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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27156258 - 01/18/21 08:28 PM (3 years, 10 days ago)

So I did a thing.  I got tired of wasting time  mixing bags in a 5g bucket. 

Made in China so the instructions were shit and I had like 5 extra screws but I works.  Problem is the seal gasket sucks and dumped water on the floor.  I have to mix and pour so it sucks up the water as it spins.  Can mix a 40pb bag with 24 cups of wheat bran and 96 oz of water in one go while I do other shit.



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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: troy_white42]
    #27156330 - 01/18/21 09:28 PM (3 years, 10 days ago)

watching you do all this fucking makes my day troy. rawr!


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: troy_white42]
    #27156351 - 01/18/21 09:41 PM (3 years, 10 days ago)

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So I did a thing.  I got tired of wasting time  mixing bags in a 5g bucket. 

Made in China so the instructions were shit and I had like 5 extra screws but I works.  Problem is the seal gasket sucks and dumped water on the floor.  I have to mix and pour so it sucks up the water as it spins.  Can mix a 40pb bag with 24 cups of wheat bran and 96 oz of water in one go while I do other shit.







why mix twice if you mix when you add water you still have to mix when youspawn. I put the proper amount of my sub mix in and then I just use a zj-lcd-m flow meter to put the water in. I then sterilize and let cool when I spawn I just mix a little and I am done. Mix the dry sub mix in the bag so there is very little mixing when you spawn. The heat makes the pellets mix  and break up easy.


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27156463 - 01/18/21 11:00 PM (3 years, 9 days ago)

96oz of water...you must have made a typo


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: Quadman]
    #27156956 - 01/19/21 07:53 AM (3 years, 9 days ago)

96 cups my bad.  I tried mixing the wood in the bags on my first batches and found inconsistencies in the mix.  I also overfill my bags to the brim just below the filter so there's not much room to mix especially after heat sealing all the air out.  Just gonna break up the mycelium at 50% and push it around a bit.  I usually create a slide on the side of the bag by pinching it and inject the LC down the side so it reaches the bottom.  I also had a problem trying to mix substrate in the bags where it contorted the plastic a bit and gave my hear sealer trouble making a seal.  Pin hole air spots on the seal mase a few bags go contam.  Either way saving myself a lot of time hand measuring a bag at a time until I decide to build a loading station.  Kind of doing things in increments because it's super overwhelming at this scale haha.  But I'm chipping away at progress and I'm growing pretty big.

Got 150 new 32 oz jars coming that I need to drill lids.  So that puts me at 174 jars.  I started using a turkey injector 1oz syringe with an 18g to inject bags.  So that's about 30 bags per jar.  Will have a nice stock pile to pull from with less downtime waiting on my jars to colonize.  Been trying to figure out how I can do g2g and just can't seem to get past throwing a grand at a real flow hood.  Future tense it's going down but I need to recoup some $$ at this point if the investment.  Think I'm going to try and push some agar plates and syringes on Amazon, ebay, and etsy with my site I'm building.  www.mushlov3.com


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: troy_white42]
    #27157028 - 01/19/21 08:47 AM (3 years, 9 days ago)

You dont push air out at sealing after inoculation. You should add air if your at a flow hood. This will allow for mixing and air for quicker colonization.


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: Quadman]
    #27157050 - 01/19/21 09:04 AM (3 years, 9 days ago)

Ya, I push air out prior to seal and pressure cook to make room in the PC.  My tiny lil flowhood is really only big enough to handle jar and agar work.  I need to invest into a double 24x24 eventually so I can work with open bags without worry.  Growing pains


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    #27166328 - 01/23/21 10:08 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Went for a hike today and salvaged 2.5gallons of fresh looks like brown oyster.



Along with some turkey tail and witch butter.


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: troy_white42]
    #27191274 - 02/07/21 09:22 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

All right so been a while I've been tinkering and learning.  Heres some.current problems:

LC jars I've learned to gasket seal both sides of the nipples because I'm paranoid and want to make sure no contams.  I can't figure out if my contams coming from my noob laminar hood or from in thr jar.  I get a little trich or green mold on about 1/5 plates that I have to clean.  I've got baby food jars sealed with hwfp that I'm baby fruiting to test.  Most look clean so far colonizing.

My tents finished and up and running.  My 6 disc fogger blew out the top 3 discs.  I'm assuming overheat from running too much.  I built a monotub and put a single disc fogger inside the tent to compensate and run 10 on 2 off.  HOH sent me a replacement6 disc free as long as I cut the cord on the old one.  I can resolder the wire and probablyrepair the motherboardwhen I have time so win.  Just need a new power supply.

Lions mane are growing big but start to brown before they teeth.  I'm thinking lack of humidity.  Hopefully the new fogger set up will compensat.

Chicken, shitake, and maitake.  Bags are turning orange and brown as they should but I don't see any pins.  The chickenis getting lobes but they seem to take forever.

Isolated and cloned some TT and wild oysters on agar then to LC.  Also did a few test runs with LT to LC which I like.  It seems much cleaner and grows pretty quick.  I'll prob swap all my jars to LT LC future tense.


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: troy_white42]
    #27191432 - 02/07/21 10:48 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I have a power supply for a 9 disk mister that I would guess would work. You pay to ship and it is yours. PM me so we can make sure it will work for you. Both my 9 disk fogger from HOH crapped out after about 3 months so I would just do something that will last or you will always have problems. High-pressure mist is the way to go I got the kit you need.


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27194968 - 02/09/21 07:54 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)



So all my initial bags are on their last flushes.  They did pretty well considering some were only half colonized and a few had contam.  I wanted to run them to gauge and learn.  Also helped me read my tent and adjust fae and humidity for the next slew of bags.  I've got a dozen shitake and maitakke colonizing atm and gonna make a slew of oyster bags to go in as well.

Mostly been organizing and building.  Had to make shelves for my desk as it was getting cluttered with all the LC jars.  I've got at least 2 jars per species.  They go here first then when colonized and tested on a pint jar where they fruit into the closet to colonize completely then into a garage fridge for storage.  I've also got a mini fridge next to my desk where I'm storing 10+ colonized plates of each species and various slants/backups.

Been playing with a Graham condesor making hydrosol for when I get reishi and stuff going.  Going to do some double extraction and see what can be done with distilling.  Worse case I can still make essential oil.  Picked up some superworms.  Converted an old aquarium into a habitat that will house the birthed larvae beetles to reproduce more superworms.  Colonizing some cordyceps that I'm going to let parasite the larvae to fruit.  So I'm wondering.. do the insect actually need to eat the mycelium to get infected or can you inject a larvae or dead host.

Also figured I'd start some variations of peppers to throw in the grow tent.  I've got plenty of room and figured they'd help with co2.  Trying to find some LED strips that aren't super expensive to help with the light for them.  Working on a fountain pump to run micromisters set on a sumer switch for auto water.


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    #27295880 - 05/05/21 05:35 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Alright, fibially got this down to a science for oysters and lion mane.



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    #27296068 - 05/05/21 07:14 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

nice man! the teeth in that first pic look a bit long, consider picking earlier. love how you just do the things, all the things!


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: taku]
    #27296744 - 05/06/21 08:40 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Ya man thanks!  I usually pick earlier but I've got too many so I just let er rip. Lol.  My tents fully automated now and the only slow part is bagging.  I'm to the point I need to invest in a real flowhood but ugh the money.  Hows your buckets going?


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    #27297237 - 05/06/21 03:49 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Ha I give you a month before you cave. Look how much you've done so far! At least it's a purchase you'll never regret.

Buckets are out and blocks are in. I'm just figuring them out and ramping up production. Trying out some new strains and starting to sell my mushrooms which is really exciting. Still loving the myco ride, and finding a rhythm to the work. That's a big part of it I'm finding.


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Re: Greetings seasoned micologists! [Re: taku]
    #27297434 - 05/06/21 06:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I've been selling for $1/oz but it's hard to find a steady market.  Just a few people here and there and a few once a month regulars.  I've mostly been doing buy/sell groups on local Facebooks and neighbors.  Been considering a farmers market but idk if I feel like sitting out there all day. 

The fresh 4-5 day is a bitch.  Like trying to sell them before they don't look as appealing is the hard part.  I've got lbs and lbs in my fridge and I've been incorporating them into all kinds of new recipes.

Interestingly enough I've started to puree the oysters and they make a great meat substitute.  I'm not vegan so I use like half meat half oysters.  IE: made some enchiladas half meat half puree, some jambalaya half 1/3 puree chicken sausage.  Got tired of Sautee and deep fry.  Gotta learn how to start drying them next I guess.

Also got about 3 gallons of Lion mane double extraction I made.  Been selling to my hippie friends $20 for a 2oz dropper bottle.  Not much bite on the Facebook groups.  Debating amazon because the monthly fee.  Whats your plans?


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    #27297655 - 05/06/21 08:31 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I went direct to my local grocers selling to them at $8/lb and they retail $10/lb. 20% margin makes them happy and I can offload all my mushrooms. I also network just when out and about. Have a health food store wanting dried lion's mane. So right now I'm mostly planning on grocers and niche suppliers. Will approach restaurants when i get more lbs/week.

I'm finding a big part of it is marketing how to use mushrooms. People are just used to white button mushrooms where I live and are thrown by anything different.

Farmers markets are also a goal, we have a few big ones out near me. And then it helps that my family runs a u-pick Berry farm/orchard that brings in city folk all summer that I plan to sell to. 

I would say dry your excess mushrooms. I just use a regular cheap dehydrator to get them cracker dry. Can buy bags to package easy on Amazon. Look for Kraft bags. Dry them before too old so they don't get bitter. Had good advice about golden oysters - super bitter after about 3-4 days.

It's also good to teach your grocers when supplying as they may have no clue either. I gave them a general timeframe for how long before they should remove them and they gave me.pointers for marketing my mushrooms with easy recipes and what amounts their customers would want - I do 4oz containers. Small batches for simple sides and extra flavor in dishes.


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