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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 6
    #28048323 - 11/13/22 08:37 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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A thin layer of verm strait from the bag followed by a heavy misting applied at full colonisation.
6 days later first pins appeared.(not my grow)




Update


Lots of small pins and knots the camera didn't catch.
I think it's gonna fill in pretty good.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 3
    #28048567 - 11/13/22 11:22 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I'm kinda surprised by the dry weight I ended up with from my early harvest... the wet weight was around 15.5 and I ended up with just over 3g after 24 hours in the dehydrator


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Rotnpins]
    #28048581 - 11/13/22 11:29 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Wow that is pretty efficient. Do they normal have that little water weight to them?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: CJD] * 2
    #28048628 - 11/13/22 11:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Wow that is pretty efficient. Do they normal have that little water weight to them?




No idea :shrug: I was kinda hoping someone could let me know :lol:

I was worried that they'd shrivel up to little twigs.. but they actually held their shape really well.

Hopefully this is normal.. they turned out a lot better than I expected


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Rotnpins] * 2
    #28048756 - 11/13/22 12:44 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Some people recommend drying thin fruits (species) as soon as possible/high temps and others at lower temps. Haven't tried to compared that but I know for sure with cubes there's a big difference. The ones I dry in the dehydrator turn to dust when squished and the ones dried on the radiator (in the winter) are hard as wood and seem to be more heavy.
Also outdoor fruits of pans I've grown were more fibrous and the indoor ones where more watery. That might explain why when they are dry they lose so much weight.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #28048776 - 11/13/22 12:53 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Interesting.. I'll have to keep an eye on the weights and consistency as I work with them more in the future.

I threw these in the dehydrator right away.. I used a presto dehydrator.

They didn't crumble, like I expected.. they are hard like wood, like you described.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Rotnpins] * 3
    #28048855 - 11/13/22 01:39 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Rotn I’m too lazy to check but your fruits were enormous weren’t they? Big and gnarly? That could be why.


Besides having the best visuals, pans are also the most depressing to dry :lol:  that 3-4% shit hurts.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a] * 5
    #28048896 - 11/13/22 01:51 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I collected the first flash, which shrunk dried by 70 gr. to 20 gr.. as usual.


Hugo-Patissons.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Rotnpins] * 1
    #28048899 - 11/13/22 01:53 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Interesting.. I'll have to keep an eye on the weights and consistency as I work with them more in the future.

I threw these in the dehydrator right away.. I used a presto dehydrator.

They didn't crumble, like I expected.. they are hard like wood, like you described.




My semps where also woody, but like you said, they dried to almost nothing. I'll try and dry them at different temps and see the difference but I won't be growing anything till next year. I just received some wild semp spores and that probably will be my last grow for a very long time. This and caerulescence with I heard are also a species that has it's own unique flavor.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 3
    #28048935 - 11/13/22 02:08 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I ended up with 5.5g dry from the small handful of fruits I got, I didn't weigh them wet but it surprised me too. They were super dense and woody and didn't lose much shape/size when dried. I'll have to carve out some time to try them soon.

The clones I took from the two biggest most dense fruits are already growing out onto the plates! I have a germination plate from the spores Captain Future sent me that has a few spots forming a fair amount of knots. I'm going to be juggling like 7 different cultures of this species soon hahaha...hopefully this species does well with mid/long term storage...I have a small mountain of mush cult projects going on besides these.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: hummingbird] * 5
    #28050034 - 11/14/22 05:16 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

These subtropicalis are tiny..


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: angamshroom]
    #28050119 - 11/14/22 07:20 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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I collected the first flash, which shrunk dried by 70 gr. to 20 gr.. as usual.


Hugo-Patissons.





beautiful photos :cheers:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: angamshroom] * 6
    #28053307 - 11/15/22 06:19 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Those are some of the squattest, fattest semps I've ever seen! Here are mine two weeks after first pinning. Painfully slow as usual. I kept my casing much drier this time and that has helped immensely. Tamps will fruit up through puddles and love it. These will not. Last shot is a gill shot from second flush of an older tray.
         


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Ganodermalucidum]
    #28053717 - 11/15/22 09:26 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Looking good!


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Ganodermalucidum] * 1
    #28053868 - 11/16/22 01:15 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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(...)I kept my casing much drier this time and that has helped immensely. Tamps will fruit up through puddles and love it. These will not.(...)





Hmmm, dr mario observed them fruiting under wet conditions perfectly fine (jcm fc).. right through puddles of water.. interesting


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
    #28054139 - 11/16/22 08:46 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Interesting indeed. It may just be my specific culture. When I ran them with a casing as wet as I ran tampanensis they only fruited around the margins of the tray where the casing had pulled away from the sides a bit and not in the wetter middle at all. Now that I've dialed back the casing wetness they're exploding through everywhere. It's the same culture too.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Ganodermalucidum] * 2
    #28054155 - 11/16/22 08:56 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Interesting indeed. It may just be my specific culture. When I ran them with a casing as wet as I ran tampanensis they only fruited around the margins of the tray where the casing had pulled away from the sides a bit and not in the wetter middle at all. Now that I've dialed back the casing wetness they're exploding through everywhere. It's the same culture too.




Ok well, as long as you're getting decent fruits.. I got some stringy genetics:

:justnotright:
..will send some more spores to agar and try out more wedges instead of just a few sectors, hopefully that will result in something that resembled a mushroom in stead of spaghetti.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
    #28054173 - 11/16/22 09:05 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Those are some spaghetti Bois indeed. If you orient your light source directly overhead you should be able to get them to stand up straight. I'd assume your light source is from one or both sides of the bag?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Ganodermalucidum] * 2
    #28054475 - 11/16/22 01:27 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Interesting indeed. It may just be my specific culture. When I ran them with a casing as wet as I ran tampanensis they only fruited around the margins of the tray where the casing had pulled away from the sides a bit and not in the wetter middle at all. Now that I've dialed back the casing wetness they're exploding through everywhere. It's the same culture too.



I don't know what to say about this. I always get more pins on the edges regardless of the species. And I don't think that's the driest part of the sub. Quite the opposite, that's the area where the condensation from the tub/bag is dripping and should have more moisture...
The pics I posted earlier are from a friend's grow and I recommended to water the verm casing with a stinge. As you can see there are pins all over the place. The pins probably form in places that have moisture but also evaporation.
Just a thought...


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #28054640 - 11/16/22 03:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

This is the only species I've grown that pins this heavily around the edges. That's nearly entirely eliminated though via a drier casing. All of these have been done in trays so there is no dripping that makes the sides wetter. Even when I spawn to tubs with liners, I curl my liners so the margins are no wetter than the interior. There is no dripping. I also didn't say the margins were drier, I pointed out that they fruited where the casing was less prevalent around the edges.


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