Home | Community | Message Board

Original Seeds Store
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: < First | < Back | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | Next > | Last >
Invisiblethe_chosen_one
On the Darkslide
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 2,882
Loc: 1984
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 5
    #27863844 - 07/15/22 03:13 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Hindsight said:
I'm at SIX WEEKS now on a semp tray waiting for it to fruit. It colonized fully and looks great. Nice even mycelium coverage. But still just sitting there. I'm tempted to do something to try to shock it into fruiting like submerging it or putting it in the fridge for 8 hours or something.




Cold shock likely won't do it and just slow things down. Dunking might, but it'll be more susceptible to contamination. What works for me with consistency is letting the casing layer dry a bit then spraying until it's fairly wet. Not so much that it soaks the mycelium.. just the casing layer. Let it dry again and repeat. Several times if needed. It's not sure fire but it does seem to help with most exotics. I see it as a duplication of environment thing.


Quote:

nosf3r4tu said:
Quote:

0t0lerance said:
Yeah, I would like to mimic the results CaptainFuture and The_Chosen_One produced with the more broad caps, so I'm looking into what they did too. Thanks for the info!




More FAE.
They are similar to Tampanensis. Low FAE enviroments produce long stems and small caps while High FAE enviroment results in shorter stem and bigger caps.
A JCM FC should be good for this.




Exactly. :awesomenod: Semperviva is an air chaser. Any FC with good FAE will work for larger caps and stouter fruits.


--------------------
"Luck favors the observant." - Workman



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineA.k.aM
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/27/19
Posts: 16,782
Loc: Gaming the system
Last seen: 1 hour, 48 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] * 4
    #27863932 - 07/15/22 04:51 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Mine pinned super fast but with pans that didn’t want to pin I also let it get kinda dry and then soaked it down real good, trying to mimic rain. Worked pretty much every time.



I still haven’t eaten these but a couple friends did. Took about 1.5g. Very inconclusive:lol:

One said it was amazing with incredible visuals, the other said it was too weak.


--------------------
LAGM2020


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblethe_chosen_one
On the Darkslide
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 2,882
Loc: 1984
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #27863967 - 07/15/22 05:48 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

A.k.a said:
Mine pinned super fast but with pans that didn’t want to pin I also let it get kinda dry and then soaked it down real good, trying to mimic rain. Worked pretty much every time.



I still haven’t eaten these but a couple friends did. Took about 1.5g. Very inconclusive:lol:

One said it was amazing with incredible visuals, the other said it was too weak.




Yeah, I'm not sure what that's all about :lol:. I'm suspect substrate is partially responsible. To This day fruits grown on millet still put me on the floor at .5g's. On straw I can easily handle a gram or more. Stressed fruits are the ultimate evil regardless of what they grow on. :hehehe:
I'm sure there's lots of factors, but sub is the most notable for me.


--------------------
"Luck favors the observant." - Workman



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePadaone
Mycophage

Registered: 07/03/22
Posts: 66
Last seen: 11 months, 8 days
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #27864045 - 07/15/22 07:19 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I checked my P. Subtropicalis swab on agar this morning and its bacterial *sob*

Ive heard this species is contam resistant so is it worth letting it go and see what it does? No mycelium that I can immediately see.



Would absolutely LOVE to cultivate this species and havent had a plate contam on me so fast before myc appears before.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCocaineBuffet
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/29/19
Posts: 3,456
Last seen: 27 minutes, 6 seconds
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Padaone]
    #27864134 - 07/15/22 08:55 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I spawned my Semperviva on stand oats to coir twice. First time I cased it at 100% colonization and second just mixed it with coir with a coir top. Heavy misting at spawn and 12/12 light. Both of them contaminated. Is the grain the issue or do I need to use a different substrate?

Thanks in advance!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline0t0lerance
I'm a teapot

Registered: 05/01/21
Posts: 962
Loc: The Netherlands
Last seen: 3 days, 14 hours
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27864355 - 07/16/22 03:45 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

nosf3r4tu said:
FC
just a tub (EZD). ime a tray,a bag or a shoebox  inside a bigger tub works best.
temp
23C is ideal but around it works as well
sub
coir,cvg,straw,manure,coffe, just cased grains... all is good.
casing
asura`s casing recipe is perfect.
All you need is pacience :rofl:




I've spend quite some €€€ on the JCM for quality airpump, heater and oxigen disks.. tried it in a shed, but temps fluctuated massively (one day too dry.. the other too wet), I can't move it indoors because the airpump is just too noisy, same reason I won't go for a martha, the exhaust fan would make too much noise. So, maybe I just don't have much choice and will go for the EZ dial tub.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblenosf3r4tu


Registered: 03/26/19
Posts: 775
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
    #27864463 - 07/16/22 06:54 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

the_chosen_one said:


Yeah, I'm not sure what that's all about :lol:. I'm suspect substrate is partially responsible. To This day fruits grown on millet still put me on the floor at .5g's. On straw I can easily handle a gram or more. Stressed fruits are the ultimate evil regardless of what they grow on. :hehehe:
I'm sure there's lots of factors, but sub is the most notable for me.




Some PF tek stile cakes with whole millet flour instead of BR and some coffe grounds sounds nice.
Ill try that for my next grow.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesmalltalk_canceled
Babnik
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,862
Last seen: 12 days, 7 hours
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27864469 - 07/16/22 06:59 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

One consideration that becomes doubly relevant for slow exotics, is to keep subs simple. A very simple sub with fewer different foods, is less prone to any theoretical contamination than one with manure, straw, grain. If im in error correct me. More vectors more failure. At least one should actively consider it, no matter what one chooses.


--------------------
Willpower is the one true virtue



Edited by smalltalk_canceled (07/16/22 07:00 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejomanda1990
Ewewazos
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/15/18
Posts: 689
Loc: Argentina Flag
Last seen: 8 days, 12 hours
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27864480 - 07/16/22 07:15 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I'm getting owned by arthropods this year :sad::sad:

First a mite infestation forced me to throw away almost all my agar cultures

And yesterday I saw a bunch of adult gnats spawning from my 4-month old semp shoebox.

oh well... at least I still have a seemingly clean semp agar culture that has knotted.

sorry I just had to vent a little


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline0t0lerance
I'm a teapot

Registered: 05/01/21
Posts: 962
Loc: The Netherlands
Last seen: 3 days, 14 hours
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: jomanda1990] * 1
    #27864485 - 07/16/22 07:25 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

jomanda1990 said:
I'm getting owned by arthropods this year :sad::sad:

First a mite infestation forced me to throw away almost all my agar cultures

And yesterday I saw a bunch of adult gnats spawning from my 4-month old semp shoebox.

oh well... at least I still have a seemingly clean semp agar culture that has knotted.

sorry I just had to vent a little




Ah bummer, sorry to hear that. I'm also fiercely protecting my baby cacti from fungus gnats, covering every accesspoint with mp. Sending some good vibes: :psychsplit:


Edited by 0t0lerance (07/16/22 07:27 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblethe_chosen_one
On the Darkslide
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 2,882
Loc: 1984
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: jomanda1990] * 4
    #27864515 - 07/16/22 08:03 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

nosf3r4tu said:
Quote:

the_chosen_one said:


Yeah, I'm not sure what that's all about :lol:. I'm suspect substrate is partially responsible. To This day fruits grown on millet still put me on the floor at .5g's. On straw I can easily handle a gram or more. Stressed fruits are the ultimate evil regardless of what they grow on. :hehehe:
I'm sure there's lots of factors, but sub is the most notable for me.




Some PF tek stile cakes with whole millet flour instead of BR and some coffe grounds sounds nice.
Ill try that for my next grow.




It's a bit more of a pain to work with. Everything loves it. Contamination included  :lol: but literally everything will fruit on it.
The potency thing might be in my head. However, I'm not the only one to make the observation with psilocybes. I've seen numerous reports since I began stalking it.
Several years ago RR posted an article in regards Cordyceps being grown on millet and producing higher levels of alkaloids and other desirable compounds. That's what got me watching millet closely. It stands to reason the same could apply to other species.
With the onset of legalization maybe the experiment can be duplicated and documented at some point. Until then it's just a theory.

Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
One consideration that becomes doubly relevant for slow exotics, is to keep subs simple. A very simple sub with fewer different foods, is less prone to any theoretical contamination than one with manure, straw, grain. If im in error correct me. More vectors more failure. At least one should actively consider it, no matter what one chooses.




This applies to everything in this hobby. You're on the right track. :thumbup:
IMO it's always better to start simple and work up to complexity. Chances are the more complex it gets the more one gravitates towards simple. At least it has with me through the years. :lol:

Quote:

jomanda1990 said:
I'm getting owned by arthropods this year :sad::sad:

First a mite infestation forced me to throw away almost all my agar cultures

And yesterday I saw a bunch of adult gnats spawning from my 4-month old semp shoebox.

oh well... at least I still have a seemingly clean semp agar culture that has knotted.

sorry I just had to vent a little




If you can, get a product called Mosquito Dunks or Mosquito Bits. Use them in your spray and dunk water. It's natural and safe. It'll wipe out gnats entirely within a week. Also works for plants.
It's basically a bacteria that the larvae eat and is only toxic to them.

:awesome2:


--------------------
"Luck favors the observant." - Workman



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMysticMycologist
Dirt Sherpa
Male


Registered: 10/14/21
Posts: 1,755
Loc: seeking samadhi
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
    #27864530 - 07/16/22 08:28 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Edit. Ohh, the chosen one beat me too it.

Check this out my friends. The cure for fungus Nats.


--------------------
Two eyes to look, One eye to see.
Prying open my third eye


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblethe_chosen_one
On the Darkslide
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 2,882
Loc: 1984
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: MysticMycologist] * 1
    #27864543 - 07/16/22 08:53 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

MysticMycologist said:
Edit. Ohh, the chosen one beat me too it.

Check this out my friends. The cure for fungus Nats.




A benefit of waking up the roosters. :oldman: :lol:

Nice write up! Didn't know it was here.
Thanks!


--------------------
"Luck favors the observant." - Workman



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLand TroutM
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 01/08/18
Posts: 3,081
Last seen: 1 hour, 7 minutes
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] * 2
    #27864551 - 07/16/22 09:05 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Fly tape works great at knocking down a lot of the adults.  Had them bad in my greenhouse even with watering with mosquito dunks.  Gave em the old one two.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblethe_chosen_one
On the Darkslide
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 2,882
Loc: 1984
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #27864677 - 07/16/22 11:07 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Yep. The eggs gotta be coming from somewhere. Fortunately, around here they are seasonal and only for a few weeks at a time. :swats: Like now. :lol:
I can usually get away with just the BTI and not have to trap adults, but if I dealt with them more I would definitely double up. :thumbup:


--------------------
"Luck favors the observant." - Workman



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesmalltalk_canceled
Babnik
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,862
Last seen: 12 days, 7 hours
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #27864697 - 07/16/22 11:19 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

the_chosen_one said:
Quote:

nosf3r4tu said:
Quote:

the_chosen_one said:


Yeah, I'm not sure what that's all about :lol:. I'm suspect substrate is partially responsible. To This day fruits grown on millet still put me on the floor at .5g's. On straw I can easily handle a gram or more. Stressed fruits are the ultimate evil regardless of what they grow on. :hehehe:
I'm sure there's lots of factors, but sub is the most notable for me.




Some PF tek stile cakes with whole millet flour instead of BR and some coffe grounds sounds nice.
Ill try that for my next grow.




It's a bit more of a pain to work with. Everything loves it. Contamination included  :lol: but literally everything will fruit on it.
The potency thing might be in my head. However, I'm not the only one to make the observation with psilocybes. I've seen numerous reports since I began stalking it.
Several years ago RR posted an article in regards Cordyceps being grown on millet and producing higher levels of alkaloids and other desirable compounds. That's what got me watching millet closely. It stands to reason the same could apply to other species.
With the onset of legalization maybe the experiment can be duplicated and documented at some point. Until then it's just a theory.

Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
One consideration that becomes doubly relevant for slow exotics, is to keep subs simple. A very simple sub with fewer different foods, is less prone to any theoretical contamination than one with manure, straw, grain. If im in error correct me. More vectors more failure. At least one should actively consider it, no matter what one chooses.




This applies to everything in this hobby. You're on the right track. :thumbup:
IMO it's always better to start simple and work up to complexity. Chances are the more complex it gets the more one gravitates towards simple. At least it has with me through the years. :lol:

Quote:

jomanda1990 said:
I'm getting owned by arthropods this year :sad::sad:

First a mite infestation forced me to throw away almost all my agar cultures

And yesterday I saw a bunch of adult gnats spawning from my 4-month old semp shoebox.

oh well... at least I still have a seemingly clean semp agar culture that has knotted.

sorry I just had to vent a little




If you can, get a product called Mosquito Dunks or Mosquito Bits. Use them in your spray and dunk water. It's natural and safe. It'll wipe out gnats entirely within a week. Also works for plants.
It's basically a bacteria that the larvae eat and is only toxic to them.

:awesome2:



Quote:

the_chosen_one said:
Quote:

nosf3r4tu said:
Quote:

the_chosen_one said:


Yeah, I'm not sure what that's all about :lol:. I'm suspect substrate is partially responsible. To This day fruits grown on millet still put me on the floor at .5g's. On straw I can easily handle a gram or more. Stressed fruits are the ultimate evil regardless of what they grow on. :hehehe:
I'm sure there's lots of factors, but sub is the most notable for me.




Some PF tek stile cakes with whole millet flour instead of BR and some coffe grounds sounds nice.
Ill try that for my next grow.




It's a bit more of a pain to work with. Everything loves it. Contamination included  :lol: but literally everything will fruit on it.
The potency thing might be in my head. However, I'm not the only one to make the observation with psilocybes. I've seen numerous reports since I began stalking it.
Several years ago RR posted an article in regards Cordyceps being grown on millet and producing higher levels of alkaloids and other desirable compounds. That's what got me watching millet closely. It stands to reason the same could apply to other species.
With the onset of legalization maybe the experiment can be duplicated and documented at some point. Until then it's just a theory.

Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
One consideration that becomes doubly relevant for slow exotics, is to keep subs simple. A very simple sub with fewer different foods, is less prone to any theoretical contamination than one with manure, straw, grain. If im in error correct me. More vectors more failure. At least one should actively consider it, no matter what one chooses.




This applies to everything in this hobby. You're on the right track. :thumbup:
IMO it's always better to start simple and work up to complexity. Chances are the more complex it gets the more one gravitates towards simple. At least it has with me through the years. :lol:

Quote:

jomanda1990 said:
I'm getting owned by arthropods this year :sad::sad:

First a mite infestation forced me to throw away almost all my agar cultures

And yesterday I saw a bunch of adult gnats spawning from my 4-month old semp shoebox.

oh well... at least I still have a seemingly clean semp agar culture that has knotted.

sorry I just had to vent a little




If you can, get a product called Mosquito Dunks or Mosquito Bits. Use them in your spray and dunk water. It's natural and safe. It'll wipe out gnats entirely within a week. Also works for plants.
It's basically a bacteria that the larvae eat and is only toxic to them.

:awesome2:





my subs were also popular with the flies, taking its almond smell to the rotten, intolerable smell of the fly maggots doing their thing.

One question tho, what cordyceps contains alkaloids?


--------------------
Willpower is the one true virtue



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblethe_chosen_one
On the Darkslide
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 2,882
Loc: 1984
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 2
    #27864756 - 07/16/22 12:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

They all do. Along with most if not all mushrooms. They're just not the alkaloids we are accustomed to around these parts.
:dosinralph:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30580621/


--------------------
"Luck favors the observant." - Workman



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCocaineBuffet
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/29/19
Posts: 3,456
Last seen: 27 minutes, 6 seconds
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27866778 - 07/17/22 08:23 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

CocaineBuffet said:
I spawned my Semperviva on stand oats to coir twice. First time I cased it at 100% colonization and second just mixed it with coir with a coir top. Heavy misting at spawn and 12/12 light. Both of them contaminated. Is the grain the issue or do I need to use a different substrate?

Thanks in advance!




Bump-arooni


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleeLShaMukO
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 1,685
Loc: far away
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27866837 - 07/17/22 09:01 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

i think they fruit fine from coir-verm, people have pictures here and some add coffee /gypsum but i have no idea how much benefit comes from that

im going to play the detective here

were did the contam started ? are the grains the ones to turn green first?
just the casing ? substrate but not the grains ?


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCocaineBuffet
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/29/19
Posts: 3,456
Last seen: 27 minutes, 6 seconds
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #27866847 - 07/17/22 09:05 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

When I added the casing the trich showed up after. When I spawned without a casing the sub was 100% colonized for like a week. Maybe more? And a non-trich mold showed up. It was more on the gray color side.

Spawn looked fine in both runs.

Edit: Since I inoculated the grains the plate has pinned which I cloned.


Edited by CocaineBuffet (07/17/22 09:05 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < First | < Back | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | Next > | Last >

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion
( 1 2 3 4 ... 647 648 )
firstTIMER420 467,866 12,957 01/28/24 05:01 PM
by 6The6Despised6One
* What subtrait to use Earth_rat 348 6 12/10/15 03:41 PM
by Gourmets
* P. Mexicana questions Amethyst_Scepter 42 0 01/28/24 02:16 PM
by Amethyst_Scepter
* Printing Semperviva Javadog 2,721 17 01/23/11 01:48 PM
by Javadog
* What p.c. strain is best for outdoors? Rudiger420 952 4 03/08/04 02:47 PM
by Loki
* P. subtropicalis(semperviva) 22nd Iteration 922 1 11/26/21 01:52 AM
by PsiloPsychIn
* Psilocybe semperviva (P. hoogshagenii var. convexa) Pins!
( 1 2 3 4 all )
stonesun 13,300 77 12/26/21 01:43 PM
by Hoogshagenii
* Semperviva germination times? mycomonster 1,083 12 03/29/10 08:49 AM
by mycomonster

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
140,534 topic views. 28 members, 195 guests and 29 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.035 seconds spending 0.012 seconds on 15 queries.