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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: V.L]
    #27769849 - 05/09/22 02:04 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo]
    #27769978 - 05/09/22 03:37 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

To anybody with experience growing these on coir.

What kind of timeline should I expect?

Should I expect full coverage like cubes, or is it going to stay pretty thin and wispy?

When fully colonized, I might consider casing it -- but I'm not sure what that looks like with these. I kinda just want to leave it though to see what happens, KISS.

If anybody has pics on coir I'd love to see them.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: V.L] * 1
    #27769995 - 05/09/22 03:52 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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subtropicalis/semperviva



Looks like the cake in the third pic is starting to sporulate :rush:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: SirPsycho]
    #27770010 - 05/09/22 04:03 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Nice!  :yeahthatsright:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Zigzagzin] * 4
    #27770096 - 05/09/22 04:56 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)



Tiny semperviva grow putting out a pretty killer pin set. Mini Bic for scale.

Ignore the date on the label, that's when I inoculated the master grain jar. This is the leftover spawn from that jar into a bit of sterilized coir/potting soil/verm, done 04/08 when I inoculated my Muda bottles with the master. Those got cased yesterday.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: shruglife] * 2
    #27770165 - 05/09/22 05:48 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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To anybody with experience growing these on coir.

What kind of timeline should I expect?

Should I expect full coverage like cubes, or is it going to stay pretty thin and wispy?

When fully colonized, I might consider casing it -- but I'm not sure what that looks like with these. I kinda just want to leave it though to see what happens, KISS.

If anybody has pics on coir I'd love to see them.




I have limited experience but this was my straight coir run with no casing after about three weeks to a month. I didn’t have them in any fruiting conditions that weren’t how I normally run cubes (they were in my fruiting chamber so I could make space for other shoeboxes colonizing)



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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Wall.E]
    #27770194 - 05/09/22 06:08 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Speaking of growing subtropicales on coir, Can anyone say if it does better on strait coir or cvg?

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: SirPsycho]
    #27770320 - 05/09/22 07:38 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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4th flush is in the books, got some great sized caps shaped like perfect little bowls. Should get some great prints. Maybe I'll even print this flush twice.




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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Tight Lunchbox] * 2
    #27770369 - 05/09/22 08:27 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I don’t think there’s much of a difference between coir and cvg at a substrate level. I don’t even know anyone that still uses gypsum honestly. Verm just helps with moisture retention. I don’t live in a dry climate though, so idk if it’s required in those drier climates


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 3
    #27770431 - 05/09/22 09:43 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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You cloned that thing right?




I thought about cloning it before I buried it but I decided against it because it's likely an environmental mutation. Something has been nagging at me telling me that I should clone it anyway so I dug it up, broke a piece off, took a few clones and put it back in the flower pot. Hopefully it isn't salty about being caged and starved for so long and it gives us something cool.



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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27775589 - 05/13/22 12:58 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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They're doing really good in the jcm chamber for me.




Hey Dr Mario . . . when you run this in your JCM chamber do you have the same fan timer --3 min every 3 hours-- as with the pan setup described here. I'm curious what kind of FAE or other air flow considerations. Thx


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: shruglife]
    #27776622 - 05/14/22 08:20 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Nope. Semps don't mind being wet. Pans are a different monster. They want lots of fresh air and evaporation of surface moisture. If they get too wet, they die.

If you're gonna use a JCM chamber for semps, don't worry about a fan. I didntput holes in the lid either. The temp stays around 76Β°F and the humidity stays at 99%. Lots of condensation will build up on the lid so you'll have to carefully take it off every two or three days and drain the water off of it. If not, a small bump or vibration will cause water to drip all over your trays.

Again, that doesn't matter much with semps. They don't care if you drown them but if you're gonna run. Pans or Tamps in there, you'll want more air flow.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27776634 - 05/14/22 08:42 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)



Tiny viva grow plugging along, just another eternity until they are ready.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27779959 - 05/16/22 08:16 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Nope. Semps don't mind being wet. Pans are a different monster. They want lots of fresh air and evaporation of surface moisture. If they get too wet, they die.

If you're gonna use a JCM chamber for semps, don't worry about a fan. I didntput holes in the lid either. The temp stays around 76Β°F and the humidity stays at 99%. Lots of condensation will build up on the lid so you'll have to carefully take it off every two or three days and drain the water off of it. If not, a small bump or vibration will cause water to drip all over your trays.

Again, that doesn't matter much with semps. They don't care if you drown them but if you're gonna run. Pans or Tamps in there, you'll want more air flow.




I've noticed with stubborn trays after a heavy watering. I mean heavy compared to cubes or pans.
They respond and tend to pin. Wish I could get better pinsets, but heading back to germ and some plate pins.



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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
    #27781778 - 05/17/22 03:39 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Doctor Mario] * 3
    #27781784 - 05/17/22 03:44 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Nope. Semps don't mind being wet. Pans are a different monster. They want lots of fresh air and evaporation of surface moisture. If they get too wet, they die.

If you're gonna use a JCM chamber for semps, don't worry about a fan. I didntput holes in the lid either. The temp stays around 76Β°F and the humidity stays at 99%. Lots of condensation will build up on the lid so you'll have to carefully take it off every two or three days and drain the water off of it. If not, a small bump or vibration will cause water to drip all over your trays.

Again, that doesn't matter much with semps. They don't care if you drown them but if you're gonna run. Pans or Tamps in there, you'll want more air flow.




This is why Subtrops were so easy for me as a noob. I would recklessly spray them down every day and they were fine with it, even with the cup of their caps filled with water 80% of the time.


My experience running subtrops in a GH lines up with your advice. The only thing they tend to dislike is too much airflow. For this reason most of my GH subtrops would burn. I got around this by making tiny little monotubs of subtrops with all the holes on the box covered in micropore tape. The subtrops loved that little micro environment, and would grow beautify beside trays tamps/mexicanas.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry]
    #27783267 - 05/18/22 04:32 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I am about to case the Tamps on the right. Are the Semps on the left ready for casing? Fourth try and I want to get it right this time.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #27783272 - 05/18/22 04:35 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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I am about to case the Tamps on the right. Are the Semps on the left ready for casing? Fourth try and I want to get it right this time.




What will you be casing with? My most successful grows have been with peat > coir


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melliferous]
    #27783284 - 05/18/22 04:46 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I have Jiffy seed starter that has been pasteurized ready to go. It is the kind with peat/coir/verm premixed. I have been adding a very thin layer of sand to my Tamp grows before a thin casing layer. But I am open to suggestions for what is working best for these. This is my best looking tub so far. The others have all stalled out on me.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #27783382 - 05/18/22 06:05 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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I have Jiffy seed starter that has been pasteurized ready to go. It is the kind with peat/coir/verm premixed. I have been adding a very thin layer of sand to my Tamp grows before a thin casing layer. But I am open to suggestions for what is working best for these. This is my best looking tub so far. The others have all stalled out on me.



Jiffy will work well being that it is peat dominant. All my tubs are just peat cased at 100% -- you should be successful if you have a good culture.


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