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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey] * 1
    #27615268 - 01/11/22 03:00 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

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If you wanna top balls then go for 2g of pans, I’m sure they’ll get you where you wanna go. Nichrome was the one that told me 1g is a solid dose and that’s what I was planning on dipping my toes in with. I however haven’t grown any semps yet, just spawned a tray last night, so we’ll see in a few weeks.



I have tried 1.8g wid coast and lets just say... I am still processing what happened  :lolwut:
but pan cambos are supposed to be more potent so I was thking something like 1.3/1.4gs. I am truly curious which would be more teaching though pans or semps, but don't want to end up in a place so far out I don't recall anything from the trip (what happened with the 1.8gs wild coast :crazy2:)

Good luck with fruiting them! Although it should be pretty easy. Just takes forever :smbfacepalm:




I just said if you wanted to trip balls, lol. I never said it was a good idea.

I’m conservative with my dosing. I always like to start out small because I can always eat more. Can’t really take mushrooms out of your body when you’re balls deep into the tentacle realm.

I don’t think there’s a consensus on dosing yet, but I don’t think you can go wrong with a gram test dose. You’re experienced, I don’t think 1g would put you into a place you can’t get out of


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Wall.E]
    #27615291 - 01/11/22 03:22 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

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If you wanna top balls then go for 2g of pans, I’m sure they’ll get you where you wanna go. Nichrome was the one that told me 1g is a solid dose and that’s what I was planning on dipping my toes in with. I however haven’t grown any semps yet, just spawned a tray last night, so we’ll see in a few weeks.



I have tried 1.8g wid coast and lets just say... I am still processing what happened  :lolwut:
but pan cambos are supposed to be more potent so I was thking something like 1.3/1.4gs. I am truly curious which would be more teaching though pans or semps, but don't want to end up in a place so far out I don't recall anything from the trip (what happened with the 1.8gs wild coast :crazy2:)

Good luck with fruiting them! Although it should be pretty easy. Just takes forever :smbfacepalm:




I just said if you wanted to trip balls, lol. I never said it was a good idea.

I’m conservative with my dosing. I always like to start out small because I can always eat more. Can’t really take mushrooms out of your body when you’re balls deep into the tentacle realm.

I don’t think there’s a consensus on dosing yet, but I don’t think you can go wrong with a gram test dose. You’re experienced, I don’t think 1g would put you into a place you can’t get out of



I am torn between wanting and not wanting to trip balls  :lol:  :rush: 

But in all seriousness I just want to have a profound experience and make progress in my self discovery. Is re-dosing a thing? The only time I tried it was super lame. Is there a proper way of doing it? Like taking 3x the amount you wish you had taken on top of what you have actually taken?


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
    #27615297 - 01/11/22 03:29 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

I've only properly redosed once, I think it was around 45 mins since eating the first dose because I've concluded I wasn't coming up fast enough and it was going to be too mild so I ate the same amount again. Was not disappointed, although it hit me like a ton of bricks relatively suddenly because since I was already tripping I didnt feel the "second comeup", if that makes sense.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27615319 - 01/11/22 03:45 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

Fresh you feel one gram.
At least people in my circle do, including myself.

What we need to know is how they end up after being dried, and how this compared to faster species.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27615324 - 01/11/22 03:47 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

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I've only properly redosed once, I think it was around 45 mins since eating the first dose because I've concluded I wasn't coming up fast enough and it was going to be too mild so I ate the same amount again. Was not disappointed, although it hit me like a ton of bricks relatively suddenly because since I was already tripping I didnt feel the "second comeup", if that makes sense.



That sounds pretty interesting actually. May I ask what dose range you are talking about? Although I would not dare dosing over 2gs pans even if its with redosing. One day...:trippinbawelz:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27615326 - 01/11/22 03:48 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

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Fresh you feel one gram.
At least people in my circle do, including myself.

What we need to know is how they end up after being dried, and how this compared to faster species.



Oh really? I have just harvested 2nd flush. How is the trip? Have any of you tried more than 10g fresh?


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
    #27615335 - 01/11/22 04:00 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

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I've only properly redosed once, I think it was around 45 mins since eating the first dose because I've concluded I wasn't coming up fast enough and it was going to be too mild so I ate the same amount again. Was not disappointed, although it hit me like a ton of bricks relatively suddenly because since I was already tripping I didnt feel the "second comeup", if that makes sense.



That sounds pretty interesting actually. May I ask what dose range you are talking about? Although I would not dare dosing over 2gs pans even if its with redosing. One day...:trippinbawelz:




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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey] * 1
    #27615336 - 01/11/22 04:02 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

Like adas said, it’s more about timing than dose if you’re planning a booster. The times it’s worked for me were always taking the second dose an hour later, maybe an hour and a half. Ive tried boosting at the peak but all it seemed to do was prolong the trip, not make it any more intense.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Wall.E]
    #27615484 - 01/11/22 06:15 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

I re-dosed LSD when it started to wear off and it seemed like it came on really fast vs. the 1 hour come up of the initial dose. Caught me off guard. The trip didn't seem to last any longer than normal. Just kinda brought the visuals and goofy thoughts back. Not sure how that translates to mushrooms though.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27615647 - 01/11/22 10:02 PM (2 years, 16 days ago)

I re-dose probably half the time I trip, partly because I’m always trying so many new species and varieties, and partly because my reaction can be unpredictable. Last time I did pans I did 0.5g and it felt incredible. So good that I couldn’t even imagine how utterly amazing going deeper would be so about 45 mins in, I took another 0.5g and 30 mins later when that second dose hit me, I had to lay down and listen to music and concentrate pretty hard on staying in a good place for about an hour and a half lol.

I never re-dose longer than about 90 mins into the first dose. I agree with others that if you take it 2+ hours in, it just extends the trip instead of taking you deeper.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight]
    #27615747 - 01/12/22 02:01 AM (2 years, 16 days ago)

Extending the trip sounds good anyway. What if you take different species the two times? Anyway it usually takes me more than 1 hour to hit, sometimes 2 or more which is interesting because cannabis is the other way around, I am always the first to feel the effects. I wonder if it has to do more with the time you start feeling it rather than absolute time passed since ingestion.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey] * 5
    #27617620 - 01/13/22 04:14 PM (2 years, 15 days ago)

Now the pins are finally showing up.




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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
    #27617676 - 01/13/22 05:12 PM (2 years, 15 days ago)

Anyone grown these in bags? Should I dump my spawn to trays this time?


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: rockyfungus] * 12
    #27619489 - 01/15/22 06:37 AM (2 years, 13 days ago)

Ok so I decided to take semperviva instead. I have no words for the trip. It was the deepest I have ever been.

I took 2.1g pulverized added to a ginger tea and squeezed one full lemon. Let sit for 15 mins and downed it all. This is no joke. The trip was completely different from cubes but I would estimate it at 3 to 4x cubes strength.

It started out almost exactly equal to my dmt trips when I don't breakthrough. Very vivid images but with more sexual content which was interesting.
This was really a transcedental experience. At first I contemplated the fact that I have a depression, and reflected what steps I will take to get out of it. After making some life decisions (one being that I will quit cannabis for now), I felt invigorated and motivated to work on the new me for the first time in months or even years.

After this, it began the absolute mezmerizing voyage. I experienced all times, all places in one. I was everything but nothing at the same time. My mind was innundated with visual tapestry beautiful beyond any description and it was so vivid it felt more real than our daily "reality". I was in and out several times. One moment I was here, the next I was "there" and it was not clear at all which came first or after, time was not following a linear pattern and it felt like I experienced several lifetimes there. Most of the time I was in a "what the fuck is going on?" state, and yet it was so beautiful, so fun and so belief changing that I just kept going. It felt many times that I was surfing through the scaffold of existence, and others that I was being surfed on :grin: . it was very challenging at times but very friendly considering all the crazy things that were happening. Whenever my ego got some stage, it would cling and I would keep checking if I was ok and had to reassure myself everything was fine. Physically, it was energizing at times, but mostly veeery sedating. I wanted to move but it felt like I was paralized and that was ok.

Eventually I started getting more grounded and I felt pure bliss. Like I was floating in a beautiful sea of awareness. Wonderful feelings. If I could come out fine on the other side of this experience, beating depression sounds like an easy task. I feel something finally, and I am so glad for it.

There was way too many things happening much beyond my comprehension and I know I will forget most of it. Still, I hope to be able to integrate some of the aspects of this experience into my daily life.
I have read somewhere that mexicans call it the true mushroom. Well, it completely redefined the mushroom experience for me that's for sure. I am not sure I will have cubes again after this and my Natalensis trip.

Highly recommend :vibin:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
    #27619578 - 01/15/22 09:02 AM (2 years, 13 days ago)

Beautiful report, thanks for sharing!


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melliferous] * 2
    #27619590 - 01/15/22 09:09 AM (2 years, 13 days ago)

Definitely great to get some experience input.


Sounds like a gram is a good jumping off point, 8g cube equivalent is way too much for me :lol:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
    #27619598 - 01/15/22 09:18 AM (2 years, 13 days ago)

Who you kidding isn't 4g cubes too much :tongue:

My bags are going on 3 months, no contam, casing is getting colonized so perhaps I'm close.
Gave my print away and starting to get nervous.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: rockyfungus]
    #27619601 - 01/15/22 09:21 AM (2 years, 13 days ago)

Great report odissey, thanks for hyping up this species.

I'm only at T2 on agar right now and will keep the germ and T1 plates to see if any plate pins pop up.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: jomanda1990] * 2
    #27619618 - 01/15/22 09:32 AM (2 years, 13 days ago)

Thanks for thee feedback everyone :mushroom2:

I thought doing them instead of pans would provide more useful info for the community. I must say I did re-dose midway with 5 pan jambos caps that were going to waste but I dont think it impacted the trip that much


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
    #27619622 - 01/15/22 09:34 AM (2 years, 13 days ago)

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odissey said: I am not sure I will have cubes again after this and my Natalensis trip.

Highly recommend :vibin:



Going the same direction as you there...


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